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[ASL8] Grand Finals - Flash vs Snow - Page 6

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imBLIND
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2626 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-01 09:00:33
September 01 2019 08:59 GMT
#101
On September 01 2019 17:56 lolfail9001 wrote:
Is this how all Flash games go? Opponent does something and then he dies?


Flash did so much more than what is visible to us.

-He blind built a bunker to stall the 2gate range goon because he smelled something funny from Snow blocking his choke so early

-He always found a soft spot and net postive trades with his vulture raids

-He showed insane patience when his raids were doing so much damage

-He scouted Snow's 3rd base nearly perfectly

-He waited to get a science vessel + 1 goliath to pick observers so that Snow would not know where/when to attack him

There is literally no other terran in the world that would have the brains and speed to do all of the above.
im deaf
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6566 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-01 09:00:14
September 01 2019 08:59 GMT
#102
making vultures good talent toi have
esp when you have to drop them in strange places and run through at weird times and always be cost efficient

On September 01 2019 17:59 imBLIND wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2019 17:56 lolfail9001 wrote:
Is this how all Flash games go? Opponent does something and then he dies?


Flash did so much more than what is visible to us.

-He blind built a bunker to stall the 2gate range goon because he smelled something funny from Snow blocking his choke so early

-He always found a soft spot and net postive trades with his vulture raids

-He showed insane patience when his raids were doing so much damage

-He scouted Snow's 3rd base nearly perfectly

-He waited to get a science vessel + 1 goliath to pick observers so that Snow would not know where/when to attack him

There is literally no other terran in thh world that would have the brains and speed to do all of the above.



this exactly
get rich or die mining
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VioleTAK
Profile Joined July 2006
4410 Posts
September 01 2019 08:59 GMT
#103
Game1 was a Flash masterclass, so beautiful.
Every fan of Starcraft is a fan of Lim Yo Hwan by association
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
September 01 2019 09:01 GMT
#104
On September 01 2019 17:57 fLyiNgDroNe wrote:
absolutely insane game from Flash. No mistakes, impeccable vulture harass, keeping things safe and solid. Impressive.

Yeah, his defense early with the bunker was also flawless, someone with less good control might have lost a lot stuff or died when Snow rushed past the bunker early.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44303 Posts
September 01 2019 09:01 GMT
#105
On September 01 2019 17:59 imBLIND wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2019 17:56 lolfail9001 wrote:
Is this how all Flash games go? Opponent does something and then he dies?


Flash did so much more than what is visible to us.

-He blind built a bunker to stall the 2gate range goon because he smelled something funny from Snow blocking his choke so early

-He always found a soft spot and net postive trades with his vulture raids

-He showed insane patience when his raids were doing so much damage

-He scouted Snow's 3rd base nearly perfectly

-He waited to get a science vessel + 1 goliath to pick observers so that Snow would not know where/when to attack him

There is literally no other terran in the world that would have the brains and speed to do all of the above.

Last is like the next best terran but he plays nothing like flash.
this is a quote
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6566 Posts
September 01 2019 09:01 GMT
#106
what is this ad flash and the furious?
get rich or die mining
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darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3019 Posts
September 01 2019 09:01 GMT
#107
Masterful game by Flash, but it was actually a pretty big and completely avoidable mistake to let the Bunker die. That set him back a lot. If he had also lost his Dropship, it would have been a completely different game.
whaski
Profile Joined December 2012
Finland577 Posts
September 01 2019 09:02 GMT
#108
Snow finally got his macro going, not floating minerals at all 😀
it's not just a music it's something else
KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4385 Posts
September 01 2019 09:02 GMT
#109
On September 01 2019 17:56 lolfail9001 wrote:
Is this how all Flash games go? Opponent does something and then he dies?


Nah this time the vultures were key to this.

Otherwise things could have snowballed out of control in favour of Snow.

Flash is hard to predict because throught his career he seemed to play perfectly standard but just above everyone else but, at the same time, he could be seen as someone who would pull ridiculous strategies and make them work.

This makes him a very tough opponent to prepare against. If you focus on standard you have a mountain to climb because that is almost unbeatable….if you try to prepare special builds or to anticipate his, you are out of your Comfort zone but he seems rather unfazed about unorthodox games. Sigh….but Snow actually stands a decent chance in regular standard games.
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
VioleTAK
Profile Joined July 2006
4410 Posts
September 01 2019 09:03 GMT
#110
On September 01 2019 18:01 darktreb wrote:
Masterful game by Flash, but it was actually a pretty big and completely avoidable mistake to let the Bunker die. That set him back a lot. If he had also lost his Dropship, it would have been a completely different game.

That dropship survivng was a relly big deal.
Every fan of Starcraft is a fan of Lim Yo Hwan by association
ggsimida
Profile Joined August 2015
1156 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-01 09:04:03
September 01 2019 09:03 GMT
#111
On September 01 2019 18:01 HolydaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2019 17:57 fLyiNgDroNe wrote:
absolutely insane game from Flash. No mistakes, impeccable vulture harass, keeping things safe and solid. Impressive.

Yeah, his defense early with the bunker was also flawless, someone with less good control might have lost a lot stuff or died when Snow rushed past the bunker early.


snow did make a mistake not rushing the goons up to the ramp below asap. the stronger pressure against the bunker would shift the momentum for snow earlier
johanes
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Czech Republic2246 Posts
September 01 2019 09:03 GMT
#112
Snow wasn't able to build more than 4 gates for most of the game and flash had 5 facts
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44303 Posts
September 01 2019 09:04 GMT
#113
i wish this flash + girl video had english subs

or i understood korean
this is a quote
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6566 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-01 09:05:22
September 01 2019 09:04 GMT
#114
you can tell flash is a god bc he gets iced coffee with milk/cream and doesn't have to run to the bathroom immediately after.
get rich or die mining
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johanes
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Czech Republic2246 Posts
September 01 2019 09:05 GMT
#115
On September 01 2019 18:02 KobraKay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2019 17:56 lolfail9001 wrote:
Is this how all Flash games go? Opponent does something and then he dies?


Nah this time the vultures were key to this.

Otherwise things could have snowballed out of control in favour of Snow.

Flash is hard to predict because throught his career he seemed to play perfectly standard but just above everyone else but, at the same time, he could be seen as someone who would pull ridiculous strategies and make them work.

This makes him a very tough opponent to prepare against. If you focus on standard you have a mountain to climb because that is almost unbeatable….if you try to prepare special builds or to anticipate his, you are out of your Comfort zone but he seems rather unfazed about unorthodox games. Sigh….but Snow actually stands a decent chance in regular standard games.

This goes back to "cheddar terran" days, he was cheese master and then became standard player. He has it all.
VioleTAK
Profile Joined July 2006
4410 Posts
September 01 2019 09:06 GMT
#116
Snow's third was nothing but a sinkhole until he finally places that 2nd pylon to properly protect it from vultures. Snow isn't used to playing Terrans this relentess, no protoss is used to it, to Flash. They forget how strong he is until they play him again. As LAst said in selection ceremony while chosing other Terran to create a 4T group due to his amazing TvT, "Flash isn't a Terran, I'll never chose Flash".
Every fan of Starcraft is a fan of Lim Yo Hwan by association
Highgamer
Profile Joined October 2015
1471 Posts
September 01 2019 09:07 GMT
#117
lol, Flash's true weakness, stingy insects trauma
fLyiNgDroNe
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium4121 Posts
September 01 2019 09:07 GMT
#118
just imagine, in some time Flash will end up being someone's father. Waaaat?
Drone is a way of living
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6566 Posts
September 01 2019 09:08 GMT
#119
On September 01 2019 18:06 VioleTAK wrote:
Snow's third was nothing but a sinkhole until he finally places that 2nd pylon to properly protect it from vultures. Snow isn't used to playing Terrans this relentess, no protoss is used to it, to Flash. They forget how strong he is until they play him again. As LAst said in selection ceremony while chosing other Terran to create a 4T group due to his amazing TvT, "Flash isn't a Terran, I'll never chose Flash".

tbh it's a hard map for protoss to take a third esp when dropships are out and he needed to be a base ahead for a LONG time to be able to hold that push. not gonna blame the map but flash abused the hell out of that map
get rich or die mining
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VioleTAK
Profile Joined July 2006
4410 Posts
September 01 2019 09:08 GMT
#120
Comon they need to continue the show, we've got ways to go.
Every fan of Starcraft is a fan of Lim Yo Hwan by association
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