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On June 13 2007 01:04 Organ wrote:
OMG! Who's next to beat Nada? Mumyung?
you probably dont know that yell0w is the most known zerg and still very powerfull and chojja was n°1 KESPA about one year ago.
Your comment is the stupidest of all the thread.
gj
edit: yea chojja is my favorite player since 2001, it seems like just me and tfein (where is he?) see in him the most brillant player of all time, almost always providing amazing games (even if he loses), amazing skill and very creative play (+ gm attitude. ChOJJa is a legend, that's all.
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Braavos36375 Posts
i can't believe i missed this live
it makes me really want to reconsider my opinion of yellow and cheer for him, maybe he really is coming back
him in addition to the reach revival would be sick
edit: come on gds you can't say that yellow is "still very powerful" he's been sucking for years, and this is probably the first sign of him returning to form... he was a HUGE underdog in this match
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KTF Fighting! YellOw Fighting!
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On June 13 2007 01:04 Organ wrote:
OMG! Who's next to beat Nada? Mumyung?
Clon.
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If I had to choose two guys from KTF that NaDa shouldnt lose to....
yeah, It would be them xD
BC: "Good day Commander"
NaDa: "who the fuck created this sound!"
^_^;
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Russian Federation987 Posts
On June 13 2007 04:50 gds wrote:you probably dont know that yell0w is the most known zerg and still very powerfull and chojja was n°1 KESPA about one year ago. Your comment is the stupidest of all the thread. gj edit: yea chojja is my favorite player since 2001, it seems like just me and tfein (where is he?) see in him the most brillant player of all time, almost always providing amazing games (even if he loses), amazing skill and very creative play (+ gm attitude. ChOJJa is a legend, that's all.
Yeah and boxer is the most known terran and still somewhat powerful, but many of us were shocked when bisu lost to him. Yellow and Chojja were good, but now they are obviously can't play at the highest level (still playing rather good). It's a pity that Nada is maybe joining them now and they can play equal games. I still rate nada extremely high and losing to these age-of-dinosaurs zergs has surprised me so much.
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poor nada. he HAS to play every single game bc no one in his team is even near his level of play. so much pressure. i remeber Pantech Coach mentioning biggest problem for NaDa isnt the fact that hes under a lot of pressure, or having crazy schedule. the biggest proble right now is that he doesnt have ne decent sparing parter who can play on the same level as NaDa on the team.
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As much as i agree that Yellow and Chojja aren't exactly the top zergs right now, they were still in shape last year during shinhan 1 osl. Of course, they weren't as good as Savior was, but Savior wasn't in osl at that time.
They started slumping (and slumped pretty badly, especially Yellow) only during Shinhan 2. So calling them "dinosaurs who can't play at the highest level" is a bit too much imo. They were able to compete with the best players last year, the level didn't increase so dramatically since then.
Anyway, Yellow's win makes me really happy 
I need to dl the vod as soon as i get home
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On June 13 2007 07:19 Organ wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2007 04:50 gds wrote:On June 13 2007 01:04 Organ wrote:
OMG! Who's next to beat Nada? Mumyung? you probably dont know that yell0w is the most known zerg and still very powerfull and chojja was n°1 KESPA about one year ago. Your comment is the stupidest of all the thread. gj edit: yea chojja is my favorite player since 2001, it seems like just me and tfein (where is he?) see in him the most brillant player of all time, almost always providing amazing games (even if he loses), amazing skill and very creative play (+ gm attitude. ChOJJa is a legend, that's all. Yeah and boxer is the most known terran and still somewhat powerful, but many of us were shocked when bisu lost to him. Yellow and Chojja were good, but now they are obviously can't play at the highest level (still playing rather good). It's a pity that Nada is maybe joining them now and they can play equal games. I still rate nada extremely high and losing to these age-of-dinosaurs zergs has surprised me so much.
how can you say that nada is joining yellow and chojja as dinosaurs who cant play at the highest level?
he was an unstoppable killing machine two months ago and even now hes still a force in the proleague
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u gotta skate8152 Posts
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United States20661 Posts
I love that Reach/YellOw two finger thing in the team picture. They're so gay for each other -_-;
Also I didn't know YellOw was ahead in their all time rec O_oi I would have expected him to be behind; he had this seven loss streak against naDa at one point.
But that's cool :D now he's ahead.
yay MVP ^^;
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what happened to the vods?
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On June 13 2007 07:19 Organ wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2007 04:50 gds wrote:On June 13 2007 01:04 Organ wrote:
OMG! Who's next to beat Nada? Mumyung? you probably dont know that yell0w is the most known zerg and still very powerfull and chojja was n°1 KESPA about one year ago. Your comment is the stupidest of all the thread. gj edit: yea chojja is my favorite player since 2001, it seems like just me and tfein (where is he?) see in him the most brillant player of all time, almost always providing amazing games (even if he loses), amazing skill and very creative play (+ gm attitude. ChOJJa is a legend, that's all. Yeah and boxer is the most known terran and still somewhat powerful, but many of us were shocked when bisu lost to him. Yellow and Chojja were good, but now they are obviously can't play at the highest level (still playing rather good). It's a pity that Nada is maybe joining them now and they can play equal games. I still rate nada extremely high and losing to these age-of-dinosaurs zergs has surprised me so much.
Chrh beating Bisu was a shock. Boxer beating Bisu was not
Chojja can/is still playing at the highest level if you have been watching any part of his games. This was the biggest rape I've ever seen any zerg pound on Nada.
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Live2Win
United States6657 Posts
ChoJJa's strat was genius. Because he had such a bad start, (7 pool failed, then allowing marines in his base...) he knew he wasn't going to get any gas expos on land. His muta micro was fairly bad this game (twice I saw him fly over mnm on accident) and NaDa had all expos checked. I was sure ChoJJa was going to lose.
But instead of a straight-up battle, ChoJJa opted for the island expos at 6 and 12... 6 was a balsy yet brilliant move because it was right next to NaDa. And when NaDa finally found the expos, he scourged the dropships (I think he killed 3 or 4 dropships the entire game... when they counted the most). He also skipped lurker tech, which was genius, since he was playing harrass + expo instead of head-to-head battles. Using guardians/sunken to defend in main base (which wasn't needed thanks to NaDa messing up and allowing 3 tanks to die to sunken/muta) and making PLENTY of scourges to prevent his islands from dying, He was able to gather a shitload of gas from 4 expos.
Then came the cows. With lurker tech skipped, his 2 island expos fairly secured and teched to Hive, once the ultralisk caver went up I knew NaDa played right into his hands. He didn't even make that many mutalisks, and only made about 5/6 guardians for defense... the only gas he really used was the scourges. And as predicted by end of the game the map was overrun by cows and lings.
From then on he used the combination of ultra/ling drops and scourges to prevent any type of comeback from NaDa.
It was genius
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I liked how Chojja played, he skipped lurker tech for drop and grabbed island expos. Considering the nature of the map, I really like this play. I also like Guardians for choke defending since this map's choke is notoriously stupid. This game was very Chojja-like in management and style and I totally appreciated it.
However, the Yellow game, I am torn. I am so happy Jinho won, I said I expect him to get raped but would be happy if he won, and I am. However, I wonder about Nada. His proxy 3rd rax was cheeky and arrogant and I thought he really could have taken out 6 at many points earlier but he stayed very safe as Yellow flashed like 3 units in Nada's vision to keep him in base all game -_-;; Then with 3 gas from the start, wtf is Nada gonna do? Even Yellow will rape you then, all day, everyday. He's not a 2 fingered handicapped newbie, he's still fuckn Jinho man.
I am really happy for KTF zergs today, they deserve it, they are some of the best in History. However, as much as I dislike Nada, I thought his play was sub-par compared to most days. Not cuz he lost, but his game was so passive and weak.
EDIT - Chojja's Thumb's Up Picture is Frame Worthy.
The best part of the Chojja game was the first D matrix drop dying to 4 scourge. There were 2, then Chojja sees Nada's scan and makes 2 more scourges where Nada scanned-ished. When the D-matrx drop falls, the original 2 scourge nail the SOB then the 2 scourge sitting around where the scan was nail the bitch and OMG I was really really happy.
SKOJIII >>>> D MATRIXXX
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Valhalla18444 Posts
On June 13 2007 12:31 tfeign wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2007 07:19 Organ wrote:On June 13 2007 04:50 gds wrote:On June 13 2007 01:04 Organ wrote:
OMG! Who's next to beat Nada? Mumyung? you probably dont know that yell0w is the most known zerg and still very powerfull and chojja was n°1 KESPA about one year ago. Your comment is the stupidest of all the thread. gj edit: yea chojja is my favorite player since 2001, it seems like just me and tfein (where is he?) see in him the most brillant player of all time, almost always providing amazing games (even if he loses), amazing skill and very creative play (+ gm attitude. ChOJJa is a legend, that's all. Yeah and boxer is the most known terran and still somewhat powerful, but many of us were shocked when bisu lost to him. Yellow and Chojja were good, but now they are obviously can't play at the highest level (still playing rather good). It's a pity that Nada is maybe joining them now and they can play equal games. I still rate nada extremely high and losing to these age-of-dinosaurs zergs has surprised me so much. Chrh beating Bisu was a shock. Boxer beating Bisu was not Chojja can/is still playing at the highest level if you have been watching any part of his games. This was the biggest rape I've ever seen any zerg pound on Nada.
no it isn't savior gave him a scenic tour of failureville in Shinhan 3
don't try to say this game was more impressive than that
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51463 Posts
I remember how YellOw was with Nada on Toona, then switched back to KTF after a short period of time. Any idea why (I suppose $)?
I reckon that if YellOw stayed in Toona/Pantech, they would actually be alright of a team.
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United States20661 Posts
On June 13 2007 15:10 GTR-2-Go wrote:
I remember how YellOw was with Nada on Toona, then switched back to KTF after a short period of time. Any idea why (I suppose $)?
I reckon that if YellOw stayed in Toona/Pantech, they would actually be alright of a team.
It was $$
They tossed 'round so much money then, KTF..
the vast majority of their Proleague lineup is purchased off other teams.
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