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Corrupted Cup 2019: Grand Prix Eurovision de la Ch - Page 2

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NeMu555
Profile Joined January 2016
114 Posts
May 25 2019 07:34 GMT
#21
On May 25 2019 15:40 Rus_Brain wrote:
I may seem abit brain dead but I'll answer you anyway, Nemu.

Not "top8", but top3 Polish qualis. I gues you would have even less chances, should pl be part of EU qualis (even like 6 spots combined).

This is not a free Moscow tourism, but a challenge for the best of EU. So yeah, we are going to pick top2, not "top16 of Europe".

As for Russian favoritizm, first, the tournament is made in Russia. I would've considered 100% fair to see same scale Bulgarian tournament with Nemu and Wallace invited (and Christian, if he agrees), another 8 quotas for BG and just two for everyone else. Second, a Russian player grand final participation budget is much less than any foreigner. Prizepool is just a top of an iceberg. Pardon me, I don't trade cocaine or print money, lol.

All challenge fees will go to the prize pool. Oh, wait, there are just 8 prize places, twice less than 16. Indeed, this is "filling everyone else pockets".

Sad that some of the players decided to miss the qualis, considering that participation is absolutely free. Regardless, there are much more players around the globe who are thirsty for wcg-class tournament. Since it's the same huge effort making happy a sore topsixteener and a thousand of fans, I opt for the later due to much more benefit for the public good.


Well you most certainly are a bit brain dead since you decided to ''answer'' me although I had no questions and was quoting a person who directly mentioned my name.
Since you are trying to make something clear to me let me try to jump on your key points.
If I did have a Big Bulgarian offline tournament, I would never undermine EU talant and would give everyone a fair shot(which means slim to none bulgarians are going to qualify), and would cover travels expenses from my own pocket or sponsors! You are so greedy you are not even realizing it! The funny thing is the majority of the money which you hope to be raised would be done much easier if more europeans had incentive to donat. Yes, they still have less of a chance than the best polish and russian players but atleast give them a shot? Its a win win for both sides but nobody with enough IQ is there to realize it! The top players who have the biggest chance are always going to get the biggest prize but cut some of the prize pool for the ability of more players being able to enjoy a trip to your lovely Moscow!
For the record if I could challenge all those top polish and top russian Protoss users for 50-100$ a peice you think I can't qualify for your stupid tourney? I practiced close to 0% for last BSL, because obviously the prize pool isn't worth our time anymore.
You can all stop refering to me now as I'm going to let you smart fellas promote our good game and hope new people are going to come like this.... GL!
I'll also wait for the latest ICARUS movie to see how mighty the russians are!
ne4aJIb
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Russian Federation3209 Posts
May 25 2019 08:10 GMT
#22
I knew it, that somebody will still complain.
And a bulgarian complaining about Russians is not a surprise either... since 1878. :D
Bisu,Best,Stork,Jangbi and Flash, Fantasy, Leta, Light and Jaedong, Hydra, Zero, Soulkey assemble in ACE now!
NeMu555
Profile Joined January 2016
114 Posts
May 25 2019 08:36 GMT
#23
On May 25 2019 17:10 ne4aJIb wrote:
I knew it, that somebody will still complain.
And a bulgarian complaining about Russians is not a surprise either... since 1878. :D


Great reminder how your grandpops unslaved us while raping and ruling over what ever you wanted! Thanks, unfortunately those "great" men are now dead and we are left with the peeps like you . But ye in general I guess russian ruling is better than turkish, atleast when I slap yo a** you respect me some noob!
kogeT
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2041 Posts
May 25 2019 08:53 GMT
#24
Nemu, I take any amount of money games vs you. Interested?
https://www.twitch.tv/kogetbw
NeMu555
Profile Joined January 2016
114 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-25 09:10:22
May 25 2019 09:07 GMT
#25
On May 25 2019 17:53 kogeT wrote:
Nemu, I take any amount of money games vs you. Interested?

KogeT, I wouldn't bet money vs any top terran atm you have proved you are one of them since you won me and did better than me in last 2 big qualifiers including Italian tour since in my email I was asked to go if you couldn't!
I would expect more from you than to randomly boost your ego which at best is trying to defend your country someway.... Its like Eon, Dewalt or any other player that has better results than me to challenge me in the middle of thread?
If I have time in the future to play more games so I feel confident you will see NEMU we will do some games for $ if we both still interested!
Another thing to consider was the emphasis on the word PROTOSS, and the prize being qualifying for the big tourney, not win the same amount, which would be a straight up bet.
If people like kogeT chime in inappropriately what am I expecting for the rest..... Sad day for brood.
KameZerg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Sweden1767 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-25 09:24:02
May 25 2019 09:17 GMT
#26
I have no issues it was just a idea
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GeckoXp
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Germany2016 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-25 09:23:05
May 25 2019 09:21 GMT
#27
On May 25 2019 16:34 NeMu555 wrote:

If I did have a Big Bulgarian offline tournament, I would never undermine EU talant and would give everyone a fair shot(which means slim to none bulgarians are going to qualify), and would cover travels expenses from my own pocket or sponsors!



I'm not entirely sure I understood everything you posted, but this sentence I really have problems with. Brain does sponsor accomodation, flight and visa for any player that participates, including the spots of Europe. Any donation the viewers, players and other third parties do will go directly into the main event's prize fund and thus are not related to travel expanses or go to Brain's bank account. To me it seems the distribution of slots per continent/region is closer related to Brain's private money(!!!), not to his imagined patriotism, as well as to the lack of people who are willing to sponsor the flight/visa costs for their favourite player.

Now, what I don't get is how you say that would somehow undermine the EU playerbase's "talent": how?

If the invites and the majority of the Russians suck, they'll have a hard time to advance to the pay out stages in Moscow, so you won't fill their pockets with donated money, as they're not eligible to cash in, as the "legitly" qualified players will kill them off in the early final event stages.

If you're sure you belong within this tournament, you can always get in contact with Brain and suggest you pay for the trip yourself (and thus get a slot for the final event outside of the qualification design), add some $50++ donation to the pool and compete from the first round on. If you surpass the "illegit" Russians in the main event, you probably win back the money you put on the line, even if you don't win the overall LAN tournament.

In any case, nobody wants to exclude anyone from the event. Raging on about the tournament design is very easy for an outsider who has no financial commitment to the outcome.
NeMu555
Profile Joined January 2016
114 Posts
May 25 2019 10:13 GMT
#28
On May 25 2019 18:21 GeckoXp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2019 16:34 NeMu555 wrote:

If I did have a Big Bulgarian offline tournament, I would never undermine EU talant and would give everyone a fair shot(which means slim to none bulgarians are going to qualify), and would cover travels expenses from my own pocket or sponsors!

Raging on about the tournament design is very easy for an outsider who has no financial commitment to the outcome.

Yeap, enough said!
Rus_Brain
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Russian Federation1894 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-25 11:21:13
May 25 2019 11:03 GMT
#29
On May 25 2019 16:34 NeMu555 wrote:
If I did have a Big Bulgarian offline tournament
I'm here to help, should you ever do 👍+ Show Spoiler +
Offer valid for ten years
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NeMu555
Profile Joined January 2016
114 Posts
May 25 2019 11:24 GMT
#30
On May 25 2019 20:03 Rus_Brain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2019 16:34 NeMu555 wrote:
If I did have a Big Bulgarian offline tournament
I'm here to help, should you ever do 👍+ Show Spoiler +
Offer valid for ten years

thx, I will need someone experienced in the organization process for sure.
NrTUltraLinG1
Profile Joined May 2019
1 Post
May 25 2019 12:36 GMT
#31
Why no spots dedicated solely for romanians? Like 10 of them, even if i suck badly, i might be top #10 Romania.
Or like 100 for EU, given the low player base, i might have a chance there as well.
Not fair!111
On a more serious note, Rus_Brain is awesome.
Rus_Brain
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Russian Federation1894 Posts
May 25 2019 13:17 GMT
#32
Ultraling ;D <3
patyrykin.net
Poegim
Profile Joined February 2017
Poland264 Posts
May 25 2019 16:27 GMT
#33
[image loading]

ill just put it here
Aka: Poezja[T4], Zulu. [[ Probably second best player in the world. In honor of my best friend Moagim, he was a Kraken from the sea. Poegim ]]
nikolaus8844
Profile Joined March 2019
111 Posts
May 27 2019 00:15 GMT
#34
Dear Nemu... I think you've proven in the last BSL that you're certainly capable enough of securing one of those two EU spots. It is up to you tho. Doing so will be the factual conclusion this quite intriguing intellectual dilemma needs.
That aside, I'm sure the community collectively is more than willing to put together 5.000 USD, the real question is how to properly incentivize them to do so..
MaD[AoV]
Profile Joined August 2011
Norway170 Posts
May 28 2019 15:27 GMT
#35
On May 25 2019 20:24 NeMu555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2019 20:03 Rus_Brain wrote:
On May 25 2019 16:34 NeMu555 wrote:
If I did have a Big Bulgarian offline tournament
I'm here to help, should you ever do 👍+ Show Spoiler +
Offer valid for ten years

thx, I will need someone experienced in the organization process for sure.


Super drunk when i wrote what i wrote, wasnt meant to be any disrespect Just meant i am super stoked for tourny!! Lets gogo
C'est la vie.
fazek42
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Hungary438 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-28 23:51:26
May 28 2019 16:51 GMT
#36
Whoops, double post, sry
fazek42
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Hungary438 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-28 16:52:47
May 28 2019 16:52 GMT
#37
On May 25 2019 22:17 Rus_Brain wrote:


Geez man, the shit that you have to put up with :D Seriously I just can't fathom what's up with some people... Anyhow, it just seems silly people and drama are inevitably gonna pop up with big events -- hope you don't let it faze you at all and keep bringing us these premier events!
GeckoXp
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Germany2016 Posts
May 28 2019 16:56 GMT
#38
On May 29 2019 01:52 fazek42 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2019 22:17 Rus_Brain wrote:


Geez man, the shit that you have to put up with :D Seriously I just can't fathom what's up with some people... Anyhow, it just seems silly people and drama are inevitably gonna pop up with big events -- hope you don't let it faze you at all and keep bringing us these premier events!


Brain rage is up for sale for just $10.
KameZerg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Sweden1767 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-28 21:12:53
May 28 2019 21:03 GMT
#39
What if you win the qualifier, then you're not home for 1-2 weeks and under that time someone has challenged you, Is there a obligatory attendance up until August? Thanks
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GeckoXp
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Germany2016 Posts
May 29 2019 04:29 GMT
#40
On May 29 2019 06:03 KameZerg wrote:
What if you win the qualifier, then you're not home for 1-2 weeks and under that time someone has challenged you, Is there a obligatory attendance up until August? Thanks


No. If somebody really challenges, we'd discuss date and details of the challenge match. The challenger can not unilaterally decide. So nobody's holidays should be in danger, nor would you be disqualified if you left town for a few days spontaneously.
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