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[KSL3] Ro16 Day 9 - Group A/B Final Match

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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50790 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-16 12:58:43
May 16 2019 07:11 GMT
#1

Korea StarCraft League Season 3


Thursday, May 16 10:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)


(Wiki)2019 Korea StarCraft League Season 3


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Tasteless | Artosis | RAPiD


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(T)Sharp              (Z)Modesty
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(Z)MIsO              (P)Snow






Results


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+ Show Spoiler [Sharp vs Modesty] +
+ Show Spoiler [Game 1] +
Poll: Recommend Sharp vs Modesty Game 1?

Yes (7)
 
70%

No (2)
 
20%

If you have time (1)
 
10%

10 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Sharp vs Modesty Game 1?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


+ Show Spoiler [Game 2] +
Poll: Recommend Sharp vs Modesty Game 2?

No (7)
 
78%

Yes (2)
 
22%

If you have time (0)
 
0%

9 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Sharp vs Modesty Game 2?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


+ Show Spoiler [Game 3] +
Poll: Recommend Sharp vs Modesty Game 3?

Yes (13)
 
100%

No (0)
 
0%

If you have time (0)
 
0%

13 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Sharp vs Modesty Game 3?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


+ Show Spoiler [Game 4] +
Poll: Recommend Sharp vs Modesty Game 4?

No (4)
 
44%

Yes (3)
 
33%

If you have time (2)
 
22%

9 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Sharp vs Modesty Game 4?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


+ Show Spoiler [Game 5] +

+ Show Spoiler [MIsO vs Snow] +
+ Show Spoiler [Game 1] +
Poll: Recommend Snow vs MIsO Game 1?

Yes (6)
 
100%

No (0)
 
0%

If you have time (0)
 
0%

6 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Snow vs MIsO Game 1?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


+ Show Spoiler [Game 2] +
Poll: Recommend Snow vs MIsO Game 2?

Yes (2)
 
33%

No (2)
 
33%

If you have time (2)
 
33%

6 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Snow vs MIsO Game 2?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


+ Show Spoiler [Game 3] +
Poll: Recommend Snow vs MIsO Game 3?

No (4)
 
50%

Yes (2)
 
25%

If you have time (2)
 
25%

8 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Snow vs MIsO Game 3?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


+ Show Spoiler [Game 4] +

+ Show Spoiler [Game 5] +




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radadaundandan
Profile Joined May 2007
Bulgaria3148 Posts
May 16 2019 08:28 GMT
#2
Sharp + Snow
Flash returns...
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7475 Posts
May 16 2019 08:34 GMT
#3
Thanks for making the thread.

Match one Sharp v Modesty is hard to predict. If I was picking the stronger player, I would say sharp, if I was to pick based upon historical racial advantage and/or map advantage, I would also have to go sharp.... but, any zerg who is willing to go all out for an under 8- 9 minute win - is dangerous, and modesty has shown he is willing to do just that.

It seems like every bo5 v terran we get one lurker-hydra-drop game. I am pretty sure we will see a lurker tech before muta build in at least one game.

I am rooting for Sharp because I think the tournament would be better with him in it. I have some fear that I will see some uber crappy 1-1-1 build ala forgg but it may just be my bias against it ( I think terran is too strong against zerg to play such a fragile early-midgame regularly, when you are able to make hydras good tvz, I think you have gone astray)

Miso v Snow....

I have no interest in Miso or his games - he is one of those rare zergs, I just don't care about.

Snow is not only an experienced and highly skilled player but he is chronically involved in very interesting bo5s.

I hope he steals a Mini zealot build or a Stork v Jaedong middlegame build and obliterates Miso. Not a Snow fan ( I think he is a less good Mini or a Best derivative) but like Sharp, I think the tournament will be more fun with him in it.
A.Alm
Profile Joined September 2012
Sweden535 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-16 09:34:44
May 16 2019 08:51 GMT
#4
Epic games today and tomorrow. I can't wait...
I think(hope) Sharp, Miso, Mini and Last has this.
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3130 Posts
May 16 2019 10:04 GMT
#5
Predicting Sharp and Snow to make it through to the Ro.8
Artosis loves Starcraft
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50790 Posts
May 16 2019 10:23 GMT
#6
Poll: Recommend Sharp vs Modesty Game 1?

Yes (7)
 
70%

No (2)
 
20%

If you have time (1)
 
10%

10 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Sharp vs Modesty Game 1?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7475 Posts
May 16 2019 10:24 GMT
#7
Glad to see Sharp win that one. +1 attack would have been better, if all he was going to do was attack buildings.

Modesty was sloppy and deserved to lose imo.
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3130 Posts
May 16 2019 10:25 GMT
#8
Very nice hold by Sharp. Modesty appeared to be doing well early on in that game.
Artosis loves Starcraft
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50790 Posts
May 16 2019 10:40 GMT
#9
Sharp literally woke up from his embarrassment in the opening series

now the kill bill siren can be heard in modesty's head
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50790 Posts
May 16 2019 10:40 GMT
#10
Poll: Recommend Sharp vs Modesty Game 2?

No (7)
 
78%

Yes (2)
 
22%

If you have time (0)
 
0%

9 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Sharp vs Modesty Game 2?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7475 Posts
May 16 2019 10:40 GMT
#11
Modesty just played the worst 3 hat muta of the year.
3 mutas dead before a marine killed.
6 or 7 mutas dead for nothing.
3 muta bound lords died for no reason.



Just a horrible attempt.
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7475 Posts
May 16 2019 10:42 GMT
#12
Rawr - Thanks for pointing that out. I forgot the terran I watched Modesty muta to death was Sharp.

NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3130 Posts
May 16 2019 10:42 GMT
#13
I voted no. Modesty Muta control was off that game. Maybe he was tilted after losing those first 2 mutas. That's gotta feel awful. He had ok control game 1 so I think the first mutas being killed just threw him off his game.
Artosis loves Starcraft
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7475 Posts
May 16 2019 10:46 GMT
#14
This maybe a Lurker opening or a fastish pool.

3 hat muta is too hard and his mutas have been useless.
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7475 Posts
May 16 2019 10:55 GMT
#15
Anyone else remember.... didn't Jaedong do this build on this map vs fbh or someone like 10 years ago?
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7475 Posts
May 16 2019 11:00 GMT
#16
Crazy zerg into ultra-ling-ensare????

This game is pretty cool
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50790 Posts
May 16 2019 11:02 GMT
#17
Poll: Recommend Sharp vs Modesty Game 3?

Yes (13)
 
100%

No (0)
 
0%

If you have time (0)
 
0%

13 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Sharp vs Modesty Game 3?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3130 Posts
May 16 2019 11:02 GMT
#18
Wow, Sharp lost that. I thought he could just go drops and kill him early. Good job by Modesty.
Artosis loves Starcraft
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7475 Posts
May 16 2019 11:02 GMT
#19
It seems like Sharps mistake was investing in tanks- seige.

Artosis just said this lol
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3130 Posts
May 16 2019 11:04 GMT
#20
I know Artosis said it. Just saying I thought he was going to go into drops that's all.
Artosis loves Starcraft
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7475 Posts
May 16 2019 11:07 GMT
#21
I was typing my comment as Arotisis said it. I was responding... to me.

Sorry for being confusing.

Cheers!
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7475 Posts
May 16 2019 11:17 GMT
#22
Modesty just through his advantage away after a great opening
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3130 Posts
May 16 2019 11:19 GMT
#23
Guardian rush here we go.
Artosis loves Starcraft
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7475 Posts
May 16 2019 11:19 GMT
#24
Looks like I misjudged the situation
Wonk
Profile Joined March 2017
546 Posts
May 16 2019 11:20 GMT
#25
losing those overlords, rip

that completely dented that rush, he would have rolled over sharp
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4399 Posts
May 16 2019 11:21 GMT
#26
Guardians still not good in 2019
Sucker for nostalgia
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7475 Posts
May 16 2019 11:22 GMT
#27
Its over.
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7475 Posts
May 16 2019 11:25 GMT
#28
Lol

Still no vessles? Hmmm
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50790 Posts
May 16 2019 11:26 GMT
#29
Poll: Recommend Sharp vs Modesty Game 4?

No (4)
 
44%

Yes (3)
 
33%

If you have time (2)
 
22%

9 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Sharp vs Modesty Game 4?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50790 Posts
May 16 2019 11:27 GMT
#30
On May 16 2019 20:21 DropBear wrote:
Guardians still not good in 2019


not true, it wasn't the guardians
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3130 Posts
May 16 2019 11:27 GMT
#31
Glad to see Sharp advance. He's been a favourite of mine for a while now.
Artosis loves Starcraft
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7475 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-16 11:34:56
May 16 2019 11:32 GMT
#32
Sharp V Rain is going to be awesome.

"Your next oppt is Rain how do you feel?"

"Fine, I always seem to beat him"

(I paraphrased from memory)

(Edit: removed course verbiage)
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3130 Posts
May 16 2019 11:35 GMT
#33
One of the reasons I like watching Sharp is how he is able to compete with Rain PvT. I hope he can bring it again. Rain will win if he manages to stop the vultures killing him this time.
Artosis loves Starcraft
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7475 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-16 11:44:41
May 16 2019 11:44 GMT
#34
Rain is something special.

He is such a strong match player. Win or Lose it seems like his matches happen on his terms.


I'm pumped.


Now I am just hoping snow practiced against 3 hat hydra....
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
May 16 2019 11:57 GMT
#35
On May 16 2019 20:32 AttackZerg wrote:
Sharp V Rain is going to be awesome.

"Your next oppt is Rain how do you feel?"

"Fine, I always seem to beat him"

(I paraphrased from memory)

(Edit: removed course verbiage)


Are pairings known in advance? If so, what do we expect in ro8?
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3130 Posts
May 16 2019 12:05 GMT
#36
Snow is making a nice comeback now. Great catch with those corsairs.
Artosis loves Starcraft
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7475 Posts
May 16 2019 12:10 GMT
#37
Decent game from Miso.

I can't wait for Zergs to realize.... if you do a small drop and it works - you dont need to keep dropping. Take your edge and macro.

AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7475 Posts
May 16 2019 12:10 GMT
#38
On May 16 2019 20:57 Xain0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2019 20:32 AttackZerg wrote:
Sharp V Rain is going to be awesome.

"Your next oppt is Rain how do you feel?"

"Fine, I always seem to beat him"

(I paraphrased from memory)

(Edit: removed course verbiage)


Are pairings known in advance? If so, what do we expect in ro8?

I was going off of the post game interview with Sharp. I don't know where the brackets are.
ggsimida
Profile Joined August 2015
1148 Posts
May 16 2019 12:11 GMT
#39
miso was just following your nick motto
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7475 Posts
May 16 2019 12:13 GMT
#40
I am no role model.

I blame hyun Julyzerg.
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7475 Posts
May 16 2019 12:14 GMT
#41
I really miss watching Ret stream zvp on Medusa. He was so damn strong here.
Wonk
Profile Joined March 2017
546 Posts
May 16 2019 12:24 GMT
#42
Can someone explain why Miso didn't try to dive on more workers while he had those lings in snow's main? Like he halted some mining and took the shields off the nexus for a minute until zealots came up and shut him out. I'm confused.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50790 Posts
May 16 2019 12:26 GMT
#43
Poll: Recommend Snow vs MIsO Game 1?

Yes (6)
 
100%

No (0)
 
0%

If you have time (0)
 
0%

6 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Snow vs MIsO Game 1?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50790 Posts
May 16 2019 12:30 GMT
#44
Poll: Recommend Snow vs MIsO Game 2?

Yes (2)
 
33%

No (2)
 
33%

If you have time (2)
 
33%

6 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Snow vs MIsO Game 2?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7475 Posts
May 16 2019 12:30 GMT
#45
Miso is indecisive and predictable.
Ugh such a blah zerg.
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7475 Posts
May 16 2019 12:35 GMT
#46
On May 16 2019 21:24 Wonk wrote:
Can someone explain why Miso didn't try to dive on more workers while he had those lings in snow's main? Like he halted some mining and took the shields off the nexus for a minute until zealots came up and shut him out. I'm confused.

He seems to be unable to make clear choices. He does a little of two things, instead of choosing one ....

Medusa has a ton of room to run and yet he managed to get caught by zealots consistently.

I think he didn't plan on a runby and once he got it... he didn't have a clear goal.

AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7475 Posts
May 16 2019 12:42 GMT
#47
So far miso is doing a very nice conversion from a fast pool.

I disagree with ghe casters I think they are even or miso has a slight edge.
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7475 Posts
May 16 2019 12:47 GMT
#48
Hmmm snows late second gas may cost him.

He is under gased to get to temps. I think.
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7475 Posts
May 16 2019 12:49 GMT
#49
Nevermind Miso is dead.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50790 Posts
May 16 2019 12:49 GMT
#50
oh man archon splash is just too good
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50790 Posts
May 16 2019 12:51 GMT
#51
what a weird 4th choice for miso
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50790 Posts
May 16 2019 12:57 GMT
#52
Poll: Recommend Snow vs MIsO Game 3?

No (4)
 
50%

Yes (2)
 
25%

If you have time (2)
 
25%

8 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Snow vs MIsO Game 3?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3130 Posts
May 16 2019 12:58 GMT
#53
Snow rolling on 3-0. Sharp and Snow get revenge for the first series. Snow vs Soulkey according to Artosis. That should be a good game.
Artosis loves Starcraft
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7475 Posts
May 16 2019 12:59 GMT
#54
Miso ate more storms then he dodged.

Why hasn't he learned to spread lurkers.... is that fundamental?
TaardadAiel
Profile Joined May 2017
Bulgaria750 Posts
May 16 2019 12:59 GMT
#55
Miso got outclassed. Snow did have his share of luck in that scout, though. That was a nice game!
WriterReV hwaiting!
repomaniak
Profile Joined January 2009
Poland324 Posts
May 16 2019 13:17 GMT
#56
KSL cheers


KSL cheers Netherlands


KSL cheer


KSL sunk killed the tank


KSL Sharp interview


ahhcrying vs abaxoth 2


KSL Tasteless god


STEEL cheers / snow drawing


KSL Tasteless cheer


KSL Snow interview
oEkY
Profile Joined August 2016
Germany649 Posts
May 16 2019 13:18 GMT
#57
On May 16 2019 21:58 NoS-Craig wrote:
Snow vs Soulkey according to Artosis.


if the ro8 draw is comparable to the ro8 draw of season 2 it would mean that snow / sharp / soulkey and rain are competing on one side of the bracket, should be an amazing ro8 / ro4 at least on this side of the bracket
TornadoSteve
Profile Joined March 2018
1112 Posts
May 16 2019 13:24 GMT
#58
I hate myself to still believe in Best but yeah, some nice games incoming in ro8 indeed
Wonk
Profile Joined March 2017
546 Posts
May 16 2019 14:16 GMT
#59
ro8 is looking finee no matter the results of tomorrow's games.
BeSt
Sharp
Ample
Snow
Soulkey
Rain
Mini > Action
Last > Stork
Apart from maybe ample it's gonna be all pretty competitive, and even he showed some nice play this season.
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19333 Posts
May 16 2019 14:17 GMT
#60
Solid TL predictions so far. Tomorrow might be upset city though!
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
nikolaus8844
Profile Joined March 2019
114 Posts
May 16 2019 17:15 GMT
#61
Wow! Just... wow!
The games tonight were as self-evident as they could have ever gotten.
Modesty.. the half-dimensional Modesty.. you can see on his face that he came to lose today. He probably didn't even surprise himself in failing to perform his one trick - a decent muta micro. And just for the record.. guardians are not rubbish at all, and can really do wonders paired with some other units.. but I think too damn hard to micro amidst the chaos. Certainly not in Modesty's league.
Only surpassed by Miso's one-track-mindedness.. or one track madness if u will. I'm absolutely certain that if he made the decision he would have taken the main nexus down on Medusa, but naah.. better run the lings into a dead end. It felt like Snow was really in absolute control from the very beginning to the very end. I'm really glad to see him steadily improving and to see Sharp keeping his cool, to keep inconsistent players like Modesty and Miso out of Ro8.
For once.. destiny has ruled justly in Starcraft!
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8168 Posts
May 16 2019 18:38 GMT
#62
Glad that Sharp and Snow got their revenge today, both players played really well and deserve a Ro8 spot. I find myself now almost not rooting for mini tomorrow though just because I want there to be more than 1 zerg in the Ro8 haha. I'm still rooting for him but action being a 2nd zerg in the Ro8 would be a pretty decent consolation prize. Damn I really hope Larva steps up his game next season and starts making it deeper into tournaments, we really need another management zerg in these tournaments besides soulkey.
Free Palestine
KamMoye
Profile Joined December 2010
United States721 Posts
May 17 2019 02:13 GMT
#63
Modesty played well. I thought he played better than he did in the first set v Sharp. Sharp was ass in the first set though, this time he was pretty solid.

Miso I thought was close to taking g1 or g2, forget which, but then it was all downhill from there
Entaro[AoV]
Profile Joined July 2009
United States184 Posts
May 17 2019 05:43 GMT
#64
are the vods up?
TL+ Member
Turbovolver
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia2397 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-17 07:52:13
May 17 2019 07:52 GMT
#65
On May 17 2019 14:43 Entaro[AoV] wrote:
are the vods up?

You can watch vods of KSL by going to the official Starcraft page on Twitch and looking for past broadcasts.
The original Bogus fan.
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