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amasposu
Profile Joined March 2019
18 Posts
April 25 2019 10:42 GMT
#21
Trying to rush a low econ zerg like Action is not a good idea.
tanngard
Profile Joined April 2011
Norway1325 Posts
April 25 2019 10:45 GMT
#22
On April 25 2019 19:41 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2019 19:38 razorsuKe wrote:
wowwwww Mini was looking so bad in the beginning, how the hell did he get back into this position? O_O damnnnnn... good stuff!


then mini realized hes mini and well....

What is your point? No one have a higher winrate at pvz than Mini.
amasposu
Profile Joined March 2019
18 Posts
April 25 2019 10:53 GMT
#23
And Mini crushed Effort in ASL7.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50465 Posts
April 25 2019 10:53 GMT
#24
On April 25 2019 19:45 tanngard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2019 19:41 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On April 25 2019 19:38 razorsuKe wrote:
wowwwww Mini was looking so bad in the beginning, how the hell did he get back into this position? O_O damnnnnn... good stuff!


then mini realized hes mini and well....

What is your point? No one have a higher winrate at pvz than Mini.


but he still makes the same mistakes hes always made, over commits every attack.

hes not fixing his core issues, hes just improving his strengths.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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razorsuKe
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2000 Posts
April 25 2019 11:10 GMT
#25
damn, this game looked awesome for Mini and that gigantic push was completely unstoppable. But Action positioned everything perfectly and then the counter on the 3rd suddenly turned this into a crazy game O_O
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razorsuKe
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2000 Posts
April 25 2019 11:11 GMT
#26
ARE YOU KIDDING!?!? Losing the shuttle like that? That was so anti-climatic!!
Even if the game was over, I thought that last push would make things really interesting.
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50465 Posts
April 25 2019 11:11 GMT
#27
Poll: Recommend Action vs Mini Game 3?

Yes (10)
 
100%

No (0)
 
0%

If you have time (0)
 
0%

10 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Action vs Mini Game 3?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

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amasposu
Profile Joined March 2019
18 Posts
April 25 2019 11:11 GMT
#28
Oh my god. Spend your resources on a new Nexus, not on scarabs.
oEkY
Profile Joined August 2016
Germany649 Posts
April 25 2019 11:12 GMT
#29
my liquibet losing-streak continues, hip hip hooray
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50465 Posts
April 25 2019 11:14 GMT
#30
On April 25 2019 20:12 oEkY wrote:
my liquibet losing-streak continues, hip hip hooray


considering I break my streak with ample, I've seemed to have started a streak of winning.
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25787 Posts
April 25 2019 11:24 GMT
#31
I have closed a lot of holes in my Brood War knowledge over the years so I’m not totally out of the loop vs say a new viewer.

As long as you have a good observer and knowledgable casters, as a viewer I think it’s definitely better to not have the production bar.

I’m not a total BW noob by any means, watching a lot more of it these days. Are Protoss struggling in vZ these days as they seem to lose a lot when I do watch or check results?
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
TaardadAiel
Profile Joined May 2017
Bulgaria750 Posts
April 25 2019 11:30 GMT
#32
On April 25 2019 20:24 Wombat_NI wrote:
I have closed a lot of holes in my Brood War knowledge over the years so I’m not totally out of the loop vs say a new viewer.

As long as you have a good observer and knowledgable casters, as a viewer I think it’s definitely better to not have the production bar.

I’m not a total BW noob by any means, watching a lot more of it these days. Are Protoss struggling in vZ these days as they seem to lose a lot when I do watch or check results?

1. A lot of zergs around

2. Bisu and Shuttle in the army :/
WriterReV hwaiting!
razorsuKe
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2000 Posts
April 25 2019 11:33 GMT
#33
wow this is actually my first time seeing forgg since the kespa days, he is looking built!
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M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4127 Posts
April 25 2019 11:34 GMT
#34
On April 25 2019 20:24 Wombat_NI wrote:
I have closed a lot of holes in my Brood War knowledge over the years so I’m not totally out of the loop vs say a new viewer.

As long as you have a good observer and knowledgable casters, as a viewer I think it’s definitely better to not have the production bar.

I’m not a total BW noob by any means, watching a lot more of it these days. Are Protoss struggling in vZ these days as they seem to lose a lot when I do watch or check results?

yeah protoss usually struggles vs zergs since forever. Not sure we can claim that the match is imbalanced because protoss have everything necessary to beat zerg, but somehow the first 10-12 minutes of the game the small mistakes that protoss can make often lead to a loss, while if the zerg makes the mistake he is just slightly behind, after that its 50/50 who will win, but the protoss cannot afford early mistakes, they are too costly vs zerg
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50465 Posts
April 25 2019 11:34 GMT
#35
On April 25 2019 20:33 razorsuKe wrote:
wow this is actually my first time seeing forgg since the kespa days, he is looking built!


its his "first" offline BW match in 3044 days, you're not the only one
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TL+ Member
amasposu
Profile Joined March 2019
18 Posts
April 25 2019 11:36 GMT
#36
On April 25 2019 20:24 Wombat_NI wrote:
I have closed a lot of holes in my Brood War knowledge over the years so I’m not totally out of the loop vs say a new viewer.

As long as you have a good observer and knowledgable casters, as a viewer I think it’s definitely better to not have the production bar.

I’m not a total BW noob by any means, watching a lot more of it these days. Are Protoss struggling in vZ these days as they seem to lose a lot when I do watch or check results?

Mini is quite strong in pvz. Mini defeated Effort and Calm in ASL7.

And considering that Effort defeated God in ASL6:

Action > Mini > Effort > God
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50465 Posts
April 25 2019 11:43 GMT
#37
Poll: Recommend ForGG vs Soulkey Game 1?

Yes (2)
 
50%

If you have time (2)
 
50%

No (0)
 
0%

4 total votes

Your vote: Recommend ForGG vs Soulkey Game 1?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TL+ Member
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25787 Posts
April 25 2019 11:44 GMT
#38
On April 25 2019 20:34 M2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2019 20:24 Wombat_NI wrote:
I have closed a lot of holes in my Brood War knowledge over the years so I’m not totally out of the loop vs say a new viewer.

As long as you have a good observer and knowledgable casters, as a viewer I think it’s definitely better to not have the production bar.

I’m not a total BW noob by any means, watching a lot more of it these days. Are Protoss struggling in vZ these days as they seem to lose a lot when I do watch or check results?

yeah protoss usually struggles vs zergs since forever. Not sure we can claim that the match is imbalanced because protoss have everything necessary to beat zerg, but somehow the first 10-12 minutes of the game the small mistakes that protoss can make often lead to a loss, while if the zerg makes the mistake he is just slightly behind, after that its 50/50 who will win, but the protoss cannot afford early mistakes, they are too costly vs zerg

Yeah. I was watching some dual FPVoDs of some PvZs, wish more people stuck those on YouTube, side by side FPV is a great way to watch the game.

It seems in BW players have bigger variances in their matchups as well, at least compared to SC2.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
razorsuKe
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2000 Posts
April 25 2019 11:45 GMT
#39
Even though Forgg lost, I'm feeling that determination in his eyes/demeanor. I mean, he's not going to win lol, but he looks like he will be deadly in the future when he gets back into shape.

Nothing scarier than a good player who feels completely comfortable on stage.
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25787 Posts
April 25 2019 11:49 GMT
#40
I hope he does get into tip top shape, something so manly about ForGG
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
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