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![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/C4TIZdB.gif) ![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/U2RKNdh.gif) thread needs more awkward nada dancing gifs | ||
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I'm almost in heaven. Don't wake me up. | ||
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On January 13 2019 19:03 elpolloloco31 wrote: any youtube link? or twitch? | ||
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On January 13 2019 19:04 Ikirouta wrote: John and NaDa? I'm almost in heaven. Don't wake me up. Now we just need Poopfeast420. | ||
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Ikirouta
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Also handsome. I wonder if his body is still as epic as it used to be. | ||
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what about misterfister69 or grackfields420 | ||
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On January 13 2019 19:14 KamMoye wrote: No tastosis? Artosis is there | ||
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is this for real | ||
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prosatan
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so hyped !!!!!!!! | ||
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On January 13 2019 19:30 N.geNuity wrote: why am i so bad, nada handles 9 pool no problem stop speaking what my heart is saying as well | ||
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SOMEONE HOLD ME | ||
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i know that ultras are gas intensive but defiler darkspawn will make a huge difference here | ||
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Terrorbladder
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On January 13 2019 19:41 goody153 wrote: It's Nada. Larva only needs to spam Ultras to win.where are the defilers i know that ultras are gas intensive but defiler darkspawn will make a huge difference here | ||
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prosatan
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On January 13 2019 19:41 goody153 wrote: where are the defilers i know that ultras are gas intensive but defiler darkspawn will make a huge difference here darkswarm | ||
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Amui
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That would've pretty much ended the game. It's still pretty close though. | ||
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On January 13 2019 19:42 Terrorbladder wrote: It's Nada. Larva only needs to spam Ultras to win. looks like he doesn't even need it from the way of things | ||
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that would've so fucking cool | ||
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On January 13 2019 19:47 Miragee wrote: Holy fuck Nada. I wish he would have won. That was so fucking close. Imagine he didn't lose his Dropship or didn't waste his army on the sunkens before the second nuke. He would have won. o.O yeah so fucking close .. he even held a 9pool without any dead units i think | ||
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On January 13 2019 19:47 ShloobeR wrote: That first nuke was sooo close to going off i wonder what would've happened if there were a bunch of units infront of the ghost before nuking | ||
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Miragee
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On January 13 2019 19:47 goody153 wrote: yeah so fucking close .. he even held a 9pool without any dead units i think He lost 1 SCV but yeah. You don't expect a zerg to do much damage vs Rax CC. | ||
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On January 13 2019 20:03 goody153 wrote: when you destroy those map refineries do they have vespene geyser? Or they're just destructable obstacles in the map Destroy 1 refinery, large units can't across it. Destroy 2 refineries, all unis can't across (except air units). | ||
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goody153
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i don't think i remember hearing this last 2 seasons | ||
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On January 13 2019 20:24 bovienchien wrote: Destroy 1 refinery, large units can't across it. Destroy 2 refineries, all unis can't across (except air units). I'm not sure but I think a Ghost can still pass through it. | ||
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goody153
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now nada do your thing | ||
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Miragee
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On January 13 2019 20:03 goody153 wrote: when you destroy those map refineries do they have vespene geyser? Or they're just destructable obstacles in the map They are Vespene Geysers you can't build on (I assume). If you destroy them the new hitboxes will close the gap between them. On January 13 2019 20:38 NoS-Craig wrote: I'm not sure but I think a Ghost can still pass through it. Is a Ghost smaller than a ling? Because it's ling-tight for sure. | ||
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Ikirouta
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On January 13 2019 20:40 Miragee wrote: Well, Larva played very solid today. His game against Nada was definitely closer. Horang2 macroed well but that's about it. His army management was mediocre and Larva was just 2 levels ahead. They are Vespene Geysers you can't build on (I assume). If you destroy them the new hitboxes will close the gap between them. Is a Ghost smaller than a ling? Because it's ling-tight for sure. Ghost is 15x22 Ling is 16x16 Ghost is smaller horizontally. | ||
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On January 13 2019 20:47 esdf wrote: afrecatv.com is unwatchable for me.. nonstop buffer. anyone got a restream? it worked for me when i removed the https:// part of the address .. also used firefox(as chrome autocompletes the address so you can't remove it) but if not here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I216esl5toI | ||
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BLinD-RawR
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Poll: Recommend Rush vs Horang2? If you have time (17) No (6) Yes (2) 25 total votes Your vote: Recommend Rush vs Horang2? | ||
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you can even hear the crowds happiness | ||
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goody153
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bring out the weird strats nada | ||
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On January 13 2019 20:50 goody153 wrote: it worked for me when i removed the https:// part of the address .. also used firefox(as chrome autocompletes the address so you can't remove it) but if not here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I216esl5toI On January 13 2019 20:51 earob wrote: YouTube AfreecaTV channel my man thanks <3 | ||
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On January 13 2019 21:09 sixfour wrote: Why does this have to come down to NaDa v Horang2, I don't want either to lose blame larva for not losing to the nuke timing | ||
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On January 13 2019 21:10 Miragee wrote: I feel like Nada prepared to show some style instead of preparing strats just to win. For some reason i have no problems with this | ||
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Miragee
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On January 13 2019 21:11 goody153 wrote: For some reason i have no problems with this This was a statement, not criticism. :D On January 13 2019 21:16 Letmelose wrote: Unless I'm mistaken, there's never been a player over the age of 30 who made it to the round of 16. NaDa is one game away from achieving that at the age of 34. I doubt he will win vs Horang2. Without knowing the statistics, I feel PvT is Horang2's best match up by far. | ||
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goody153
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i wasn't even trying to defend him. i'm totally ok with it regardless if others didn't lol | ||
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prosatan
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also, he snipes an obs | ||
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prosatan
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arbiter for horangee | ||
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prosatan
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nada is trying to pushm after taking his 3rd | ||
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prosatan
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but horangee tries another recall | ||
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goody153
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too bad he was doing well today but not good enough | ||
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ShloobeR
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Well, that group went just about as expected. | ||
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prosatan
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plus , nada had to play vs all races in this group | ||
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prosatan
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but , i remember in the past , Horangee was known for his PvP, not his PvT | ||
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On January 13 2019 21:26 prosatan wrote: omg! that building placement of Horang2 is outstanding ! nada's vultures cannot pass That's why he's the architoss. | ||
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sixfour
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On January 13 2019 21:34 prosatan wrote: and Horangee wins with his good PvT! but , i remember in the past , Horangee was known for his PvP, not his PvT It was the best in the game at one point | ||
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prosatan
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Yes, exactly !! | ||
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Incomplete..ReV
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On January 13 2019 21:32 Miragee wrote: "Horang2 lost control of the game." How Tasteless, how?^^ He got into a very good position with the recall, then overextended and NaDa was pushing straight towards his base. Without the second recall, NaDa would likely be in a much better position. I.e., he was in control, but lost it, then regained it. | ||
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goody153
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On January 13 2019 21:36 Hollow wrote: NaDa played pretty well overall. Sad to see him go. Yeah He put a great show with the unorthrodox strats that all of them almost worked but reality can be disappointing. There is still the next KSL maybe he can qualfy there | ||
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srj
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On January 13 2019 21:38 goody153 wrote: Yeah He put a great show with the unorthrodox strats that all of them almost worked but reality can be disappointing. There is still the next KSL maybe he can qualfy thereLet's hope! | ||
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Miragee
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Uh yeah, maybe during kespa days. I must admit I can't really remember any of his PvPs in the post-Kespa era. On January 13 2019 21:37 Incomplete..ReV wrote: He got into a very good position with the recall, then overextended and NaDa was pushing straight towards his base. Without the second recall, NaDa would likely be in a much better position. I.e., he was in control, but lost it, then regained it. Horang2 was still a base and 30 supply up. You can't push across the whole map as terran against a protoss with 30 supply advantage which is also conveniently macroing off of 4 bases. | ||
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On January 13 2019 23:31 ortseam wrote: So refreshing to see Nada play well and compete at this level at age 34! If only he put both vessels over the ghost after the D-matrix T_T yeah larva would not have been able to a click the ghost with his lings then and the mutas would have been shredded before going through 2 sci vessel. sad the loss was due to such an oversight. i still doubt he could take 1 game off horang2 though without a trick, horangee was simply solid in pvt | ||
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MarcoJ
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On January 13 2019 23:41 ggsimida wrote: yeah larva would not have been able to a click the ghost with his lings then and the mutas would have been shredded before going through 2 sci vessel. sad the loss was due to such an oversight. i still doubt he could take 1 game off horang2 though without a trick, horangee was simply solid in pvt i mean horang2 beat flash in a tvp in mpl lately, so i didnt expect nada to do much there. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
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On January 13 2019 21:38 goody153 wrote: Yeah He put a great show with the unorthrodox strats that all of them almost worked but reality can be disappointing. There is still the next KSL maybe he can qualfy thereIf only that first nuke would have landed Still a really good showing of him there, nothing to be ashamed of, i don't know how much he really plays these days but he still has it in him to compete near the top lvl which is insane really. About KSL though, is it even confirmed that there will be one this year? Considering that blizzard cuts budget for their esport adventures it wouldn't be surprising to see KSL go | ||
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On January 14 2019 01:37 The_Red_Viper wrote: If only that first nuke would have landed Still a really good showing of him there, nothing to be ashamed of, i don't know how much he really plays these days but he still has it in him to compete near the top lvl which is insane really. About KSL though, is it even confirmed that there will be one this year? Considering that blizzard cuts budget for their esport adventures it wouldn't be surprising to see KSL go KSL is Blizzard Korea though. There is no other bigger esport than Broodwar in KR. | ||
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Rodya
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Flash so good!!! Terran Bonjwas!!! Yeah well guess what - Zerg is the strongest race is in this game, not Flash and Nada's fault that they were better than any zerg to play this game. And TvP is extremely frustrating for Terran - Protoss has too many tricks. User was warned for this post. | ||
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On January 13 2019 23:41 ggsimida wrote: yeah larva would not have been able to a click the ghost with his lings then and the mutas would have been shredded before going through 2 sci vessel. sad the loss was due to such an oversight. i still doubt he could take 1 game off horang2 though without a trick, horangee was simply solid in pvt Yeah Horangee was solid but let's not forget that he got away with double nexus both PvTs | ||
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And if anything, regardless of win or loss, game 1 showed... that NaDa is a true fckng genius and legend of the game P R O U D & S A D <3 | ||
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On January 14 2019 10:44 Malongo wrote: I see a lot of delusional people in this thread. I agree Nada had a decent chance against Larva with that unscouted nuke rush and I also agree he played a great 2 port against rush. But he really showed poor mechanics (many idle workers and army movement overall) and a lot of poor decision making. It's not "delusional" to be hype for, and enjoy the games of, a living legend. And the games were good (well, the PvT wasn't super exciting or anything). | ||
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On January 14 2019 01:57 oxKnu wrote: KSL is Blizzard Korea though. There is no other bigger esport than Broodwar in KR. I think there's a few bigger eSport than BW in korea nowadays. | ||
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every night of the ASL i see the studio is packed or near full capacity. the others game do get their empty nights. | ||
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On January 14 2019 07:52 MaGic~PhiL wrote: I wanted NaDa to succeed so much. And if anything, regardless of win or loss, game 1 showed... that NaDa is a true fckng genius and legend of the game P R O U D & S A D <3 Well said | ||
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TornadoSteve
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On January 14 2019 10:44 Malongo wrote: I see a lot of delusional people in this thread. I agree Nada had a decent chance against Larva with that unscouted nuke rush and I also agree he played a great 2 port against rush. But he really showed poor mechanics (many idle workers and army movement overall) and a lot of poor decision making. You are right, but i thought it would be worse tbh. I dont think nobody was disapointed by the game he brought yesterday. I dont know about his motivation, and he is 34, but clearly hes not far behind. | ||
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in terms of market value I don't know if it's the 'biggest' esport but if you ask people here about esports you will hear brood war | ||
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On January 14 2019 20:40 ShloobeR wrote: BW is still the most iconic esport in terms of market value I don't know if it's the 'biggest' esport but if you ask people here about esports you will hear brood war If it was the biggest esport in terms of market value there would be sponsors and OGN would hold tournaments. Let's not be irrational here, knowing about something is one thing, but what about people actually investing their own free time to follow/play the game, that is what's relevant here. | ||
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On January 14 2019 06:32 outscar wrote: NaDa showing he isn't called Genius Terran for nothing. If only that 1st nuke landed, we could see him sweeping his group... Nevertheless great games by him! I believe in NaDa and hope he comes back stronger! Even without the nuke landing, I thought he had some good chances. If he had medic walled the ramp for example, he may have been able to divide and conquer the ultralisks and have more time for his reinforcements to arrive. Even if he couldn't take advantage of that opportunity (or protect his ghost just a little better as people said), the fact that moment and opportunity exist at all is a part of his immense skill. Really, I thought we were going to be sad that he'd just die to a 9 pool when I saw those lings get into his base and he had only 2 or 3 marines. I do think he could have targeted down ultras a little better later in the game, but sometimes the choice you're making is to target down ultralisks or to make sure your next 12 marines are made on time. I thought NaDa showed a very nice approach and philosophy to the game we haven't seen in awhile, in terms of where he chose to put his focus. | ||
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On January 15 2019 02:20 Alpha-NP- wrote: In group B why do people think Piano will advance over Action? I don’t know anything about Piano but Action is consistently good. Because of the way the group is shaped. Action has a good chance against Snow and Twinkle imho but the way I look at it the most likely scenario is that Snow will beat Twinkle and Piano will beat Action. Snow will beat, Piano and Action will beat Twinkle. G5 will be a repeat of G2. The reason here is that Snow is an absolute beast in PvT, Twinkle is a noname and Piano is not good at TvP so I doubt they will beat him. Piano has a pretty insane TvZ though. He can take wins against every zerg for sure. That said, his playstyle is pretty volatile because he likes to go kamikaze so there is definitely a chance that Action takes a game off of him and advances. | ||
BigFan
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I actually think one of his mistakes in the first game was losing that dropship for starters then not killing the exp too. The hp was 100! Likewise, with the dropship, several marines could've shut down the base at 6 while he engaged at the expansion and seeing as Larva threw everything at the ghost, he wouldn't have been able to defend 6 as well. Between losing so much at his exp and losing drones/potential hatch at 6, this game would've been Nada almost 100%. Nada also never tried to take the bases behind the eggs. This was odd to me but maybe he wanted to secure 2 bases at once, but in a way, that revealed his base at 11 lol since OL saw base at ~10. The rest of the games were ok. It was nice to see Nada alter his gameplan after he lost those early vultures, still got it but his TvP needs work. Still gotta give credit to Horang2 for trying a nexus first, and for pulling off some good recalls, even if I hate the arbiter with a passion after that haha. | ||
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Happy Larva got through. | ||
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The first match of the year might be the game of the year? | ||
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(( He could kill base 3 but wanted to show off with nukes...and you just dont play around with Larva. | ||
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jello_biafra
United Kingdom6635 Posts
On January 15 2019 21:26 Xeln4g4 wrote: I still wonder why nada wasted first game so badly (( He could kill base 3 but wanted to show off with nukes...and you just dont play around with Larva.I don't think it was a waste, I don't think he was nuking just as a gimmick, it seems like a legit strat on that map. Larva had 4 bases hidden behind one focal point of defence and was relying on that to hold Nada off until he got his mass ultras out, if he had just got that first nuke to land I think he would have won the game. Tbh I was expecting him to use the dropship so he could keep the ghost hidden until it arrived. This was a good group, I just wish Nada had moved on! | ||
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On January 14 2019 18:37 GTR wrote: i disagree. most of the korean population knows what brood war is, while games like lol/ow/pubg are foreign to them. every night of the ASL i see the studio is packed or near full capacity. the others game do get their empty nights. That's great to hear! | ||
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