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Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
May 27 2017 12:19 GMT
#481
On May 27 2017 21:17 wabe.PrayHard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2017 21:11 Essbee wrote:
On May 27 2017 21:00 FlaShFTW wrote:
On May 27 2017 20:55 phyren wrote:


Flash starsense lols at your bag o builds

FlaSh sees 1 ling.

Huh seems out of place. I think I should scan OH LOOK BURROWED LINGS LOLOLOL


That's probably exactly what happens.in flash's head


I see a different Shine today, what do you think?


Different Shine but more like choking Bisu.
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
XenoX101
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia729 Posts
May 27 2017 12:20 GMT
#482
On May 27 2017 21:12 Eleonora wrote:
I wish i would understand why some people seems to dislike Bisu so much though. You really have no idea how hard and tough BW was (and is) at the highest level if you consider he is overrated.
He ins't the most successful ever, but you do not become a household name out of the blue here (this is not SC2)...

Also, it's becoming a little boring to read constantly how it's now auto-win for FlaSh, as if SoulKey was a litteral nobody. And it's not like they faced of very recently with FlaSh losing in a long-macro game, right ? Obviously he'll be the favourite, both in the semi-final and in the final should he win, but hold on the repetitive useless statement about the deal already being done.

We've seen things happening over the past year, both in sport and politics, that were a lot more unexpected that FlaSh losing a Bo5 against one of the very best Zerg of the moment...
Most of us wouldn't watch BW if it was like Tennis these days. Thankfully it's not, so learn to wait and see.

Show nested quote +
On May 27 2017 20:55 Disregard wrote:
On May 27 2017 20:54 reincremate wrote:
On May 27 2017 20:52 Disregard wrote:
Which MSL was a ZvZ final again? Nate? Forgot which year, don't want to see that coming.

It was PDPop. Hydra vs Great. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/2011_PDPop_MSL


That was the most random MSL ever


No terran at all in Ro8, 4/4 Zerg in Ro4. Yeah indeed...


On the other hand it's good that players have a reputation, that's how we get underdogs and upsets like we had today. Makes the game more interesting than "Well anyone can win".

And every player has their haters, I think Bisu simply played a bit poorly today and some haters are using that as a scapegoat to vent their frustrations. Obviously Bisu's starleague wins speak for themselves, he has proven himself already. Perhaps also that is why he didn't play as strongly today, he had less to prove than Shine did.
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19246 Posts
May 27 2017 12:21 GMT
#483
Just remembered if Flash loses he would be playing Bisu in a bo5. Now I'm cheering for Soulkey even harder lol.
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Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
May 27 2017 12:23 GMT
#484
On May 27 2017 21:21 BisuDagger wrote:
Just remembered if Flash loses he would be playing Bisu in a bo5. Now I'm cheering for Soulkey even harder lol.


Only saving grace of this ASL honestly but I think we're speaking too early here. Bisu struggled against Ssak.
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10166 Posts
May 27 2017 12:25 GMT
#485
On May 27 2017 21:21 BisuDagger wrote:
Just remembered if Flash loses he would be playing Bisu in a bo5. Now I'm cheering for Soulkey even harder lol.

promise me if flash loses you come for a special cast? <3
Writer#1 KT and FlaSh Fanboy || Woo Jung Ho Never Forget || Teamliquid Political Decision Desk
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Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21699 Posts
May 27 2017 12:25 GMT
#486
On May 27 2017 21:21 BisuDagger wrote:
Just remembered if Flash loses he would be playing Bisu in a bo5. Now I'm cheering for Soulkey even harder lol.

Why would I want to see another utterly one sides 3-0 from Flash?

Bisu vs Flash would be great if both were at their peak.

Bisu obviously is not.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
d(O.o)a
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada5066 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-27 12:28:36
May 27 2017 12:26 GMT
#487
Shine vs. Flash finals would draw a lot of viewership too, the underdog story.

I think the maps right now are REALLY hard PvZ I don't believe any Toss have been having good results in the matchup atm. Especially after the threat of 3hatch hydra allins rose in popularity limiting protoss playstyle even more.


so many people bashing on bisu, can you name a protoss having success in PvZ atm? I believe best has showed the results but there's not much to go off. You should all watch the stream matches while protoss are practicing PvZ and Zerg are practicing ZvP, it's VERY lopsided.
Hi.
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
May 27 2017 12:33 GMT
#488
On May 27 2017 21:25 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2017 21:21 BisuDagger wrote:
Just remembered if Flash loses he would be playing Bisu in a bo5. Now I'm cheering for Soulkey even harder lol.

Why would I want to see another utterly one sides 3-0 from Flash?

Bisu vs Flash would be great if both were at their peak.

Bisu obviously is not.


Nobody wants to see Flash at his peak, its not fair.
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
XenoX101
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia729 Posts
May 27 2017 12:37 GMT
#489
On May 27 2017 21:26 d(O.o)a wrote:
Shine vs. Flash finals would draw a lot of viewership too, the underdog story.

I think the maps right now are REALLY hard PvZ I don't believe any Toss have been having good results in the matchup atm. Especially after the threat of 3hatch hydra allins rose in popularity limiting protoss playstyle even more.


so many people bashing on bisu, can you name a protoss having success in PvZ atm? I believe best has showed the results but there's not much to go off. You should all watch the stream matches while protoss are practicing PvZ and Zerg are practicing ZvP, it's VERY lopsided.


While that might be true Protoss saw the highest number of participants in the ASL this season, 13 compared to just 6 terran and 9 zerg. So the answer can't simply be to make maps more protoss favoured otherwise we would see too many P participants.
Bisu-Fan
Profile Joined January 2010
Russian Federation3330 Posts
May 27 2017 12:38 GMT
#490
On May 27 2017 21:00 FlaShFTW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2017 20:55 phyren wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdkE9rbGPsQ

Flash starsense lols at your bag o builds

FlaSh sees 1 ling.

Huh seems out of place. I think I should scan OH LOOK BURROWED LINGS LOLOLOL

I mean commentators were also saying, "if flash won't come out shine will make him with the mutas" and shine promptly pulls the bio force to the bottom of his lings....
The Revolutionist Shall Rise Again! No. 1 Kim Taek Yong Fan 어헣↗ GO JAEDONG!!!!!!! GO ACE!!! 태연 <3 윤아 <3 승연 <3
Bisu-Fan
Profile Joined January 2010
Russian Federation3330 Posts
May 27 2017 12:39 GMT
#491
On May 27 2017 21:21 BisuDagger wrote:
Just remembered if Flash loses he would be playing Bisu in a bo5. Now I'm cheering for Soulkey even harder lol.

This would be nice.
The Revolutionist Shall Rise Again! No. 1 Kim Taek Yong Fan 어헣↗ GO JAEDONG!!!!!!! GO ACE!!! 태연 <3 윤아 <3 승연 <3
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10166 Posts
May 27 2017 12:49 GMT
#492
On May 27 2017 21:38 Bisu-Fan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2017 21:00 FlaShFTW wrote:
On May 27 2017 20:55 phyren wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdkE9rbGPsQ

Flash starsense lols at your bag o builds

FlaSh sees 1 ling.

Huh seems out of place. I think I should scan OH LOOK BURROWED LINGS LOLOLOL

I mean commentators were also saying, "if flash won't come out shine will make him with the mutas" and shine promptly pulls the bio force to the bottom of his lings....

I mean it's actually pretty obvious when burrow is in effect. usually those mutas are actually going after marines or keeping them back at base, not just floating around in the middle of the map doing nothing. We saw Jaedong do the same thing on Eye of the Storm in one of their many finals encounters.

FlaSh vs EffOrt Game 2 on Eye of the Storm in Korean Air OSL comes to mind, where EffOrt had arleady done his muta harass and still had a few out on the map, used them to lure flash to stopped lurkers but pulled them upwards when his lurkers were to the south. FlaSh moves south and scans anyways. Dude just has a knack for star sense. We'll see how that comes into effect if they meet up in the finals.
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eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
May 27 2017 12:53 GMT
#493
Bisu's kryptonite strikes again
ㅇㅅㅌㅅ
wabe.PrayHard
Profile Joined October 2011
Bolivia45 Posts
May 27 2017 12:55 GMT
#494
On May 27 2017 21:49 FlaShFTW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2017 21:38 Bisu-Fan wrote:
On May 27 2017 21:00 FlaShFTW wrote:
On May 27 2017 20:55 phyren wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdkE9rbGPsQ

Flash starsense lols at your bag o builds

FlaSh sees 1 ling.

Huh seems out of place. I think I should scan OH LOOK BURROWED LINGS LOLOLOL

I mean commentators were also saying, "if flash won't come out shine will make him with the mutas" and shine promptly pulls the bio force to the bottom of his lings....

I mean it's actually pretty obvious when burrow is in effect. usually those mutas are actually going after marines or keeping them back at base, not just floating around in the middle of the map doing nothing. We saw Jaedong do the same thing on Eye of the Storm in one of their many finals encounters.

FlaSh vs EffOrt Game 2 on Eye of the Storm in Korean Air OSL comes to mind, where EffOrt had arleady done his muta harass and still had a few out on the map, used them to lure flash to stopped lurkers but pulled them upwards when his lurkers were to the south. FlaSh moves south and scans anyways. Dude just has a knack for star sense. We'll see how that comes into effect if they meet up in the finals.


I'm just so excited for tomorrow game, flash vs soulkey, both playing good, so it will be a tuff and fun series to watch
the force is in prayer
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
May 27 2017 12:58 GMT
#495
Looking at the results. Wow. Just wow.
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
Bisu-Fan
Profile Joined January 2010
Russian Federation3330 Posts
May 27 2017 13:12 GMT
#496
On May 27 2017 21:58 c3rberUs wrote:
Looking at the results. Wow. Just wow.

watch the games and you'll be even more wow on many levels....
The Revolutionist Shall Rise Again! No. 1 Kim Taek Yong Fan 어헣↗ GO JAEDONG!!!!!!! GO ACE!!! 태연 <3 윤아 <3 승연 <3
SCC-Faust
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3736 Posts
May 27 2017 13:16 GMT
#497
Shine definitely deserved this. The amount of sairs Bisu lost in this series was astounding.
I want to fuck Soulkey with a Zelderan.
Cryoc
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany909 Posts
May 27 2017 13:20 GMT
#498
On May 27 2017 21:49 FlaShFTW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2017 21:38 Bisu-Fan wrote:
On May 27 2017 21:00 FlaShFTW wrote:
On May 27 2017 20:55 phyren wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdkE9rbGPsQ

Flash starsense lols at your bag o builds

FlaSh sees 1 ling.

Huh seems out of place. I think I should scan OH LOOK BURROWED LINGS LOLOLOL

I mean commentators were also saying, "if flash won't come out shine will make him with the mutas" and shine promptly pulls the bio force to the bottom of his lings....

I mean it's actually pretty obvious when burrow is in effect. usually those mutas are actually going after marines or keeping them back at base, not just floating around in the middle of the map doing nothing. We saw Jaedong do the same thing on Eye of the Storm in one of their many finals encounters.

FlaSh vs EffOrt Game 2 on Eye of the Storm in Korean Air OSL comes to mind, where EffOrt had arleady done his muta harass and still had a few out on the map, used them to lure flash to stopped lurkers but pulled them upwards when his lurkers were to the south. FlaSh moves south and scans anyways. Dude just has a knack for star sense. We'll see how that comes into effect if they meet up in the finals.

The Flash vs Effort game is just an example, that Flash knows his timings and not star sense. He scanned the lurkers before he moved out (look at the minimap) but Effort didn't notice so he just killed them with the next scan when he pushed out.
http://www.twitch.tv/cryoc
Broodwar4lyf
Profile Blog Joined February 2016
304 Posts
May 27 2017 13:20 GMT
#499
If anyone can prepare for surprises it's FlaSh, but I dunno man, Shine is destroying everybody throwing the "rule book" out the window. how can you prepare for somebody who's playstyle changes every game since ro24? mechanically he ain't that bad either, his micro and multitasking was spot on and everything that should've surprised him got shut down pretty easily, he prepares like an old man should lol
https://cinesnipe.com
gamapg
Profile Joined January 2010
Philippines189 Posts
May 27 2017 13:45 GMT
#500
Being a bisu fan is an abusive relationship...

It hurts so much, but I'm going to stay bisu, despite all the tears you make me cry out....
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