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EsportsJohn
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United States4883 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-11 09:46:22
May 11 2017 08:12 GMT
#1

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EsportsJohn
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4883 Posts
May 11 2017 08:15 GMT
#2
Really looking forward to Rain vs effOrt tonight! The rest of them...eh, well, they might be surprisingly good .
StrategyAllyssa Grey <3<3
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10045 Posts
May 11 2017 08:15 GMT
#3
naisu

free > light
ssak > mind
hero > sk
effort > rain
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
Ziggy
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
South Korea2106 Posts
May 11 2017 09:32 GMT
#4
given ssak's recent performance i hope he and mind deliver a 40 min slobber knocker tvt
WriterDefeating a sandwich only makes it tastier. @imjustziggy
lamarine
Profile Joined January 2003
591 Posts
May 11 2017 10:11 GMT
#5
back to 1.16 lol :D
So... BW is back
Arvendilin
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany1878 Posts
May 11 2017 10:17 GMT
#6
GG good idea by light since his TvP is pretty not good...

Still I expected better Micro from Free :/
My heroes: Jangbi, Bisu, Stork and BeSt for BW, Rain, Zest and Stats for SC2! Need a better Signature tbh...
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
May 11 2017 10:18 GMT
#7
PvT is cheese only in SSL.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
lamarine
Profile Joined January 2003
591 Posts
May 11 2017 10:19 GMT
#8
lol, free, why the heck you go for fast exp if Light is cheesing every single game? T_T
So... BW is back
gngfn
Profile Joined January 2009
United States1726 Posts
May 11 2017 10:22 GMT
#9
Watch free somehow win this with the Reaver now
Arvendilin
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany1878 Posts
May 11 2017 10:24 GMT
#10
Thats just wrong Rapid, it goes:

"Fool me once, shame... shame on you!!! Fool me tw... can't get fooled again!"
My heroes: Jangbi, Bisu, Stork and BeSt for BW, Rain, Zest and Stats for SC2! Need a better Signature tbh...
oEkY
Profile Joined August 2016
Germany649 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-11 10:26:24
May 11 2017 10:25 GMT
#11
would be funny to see Light advancing to round of 4 with 3 losses in his first 3 matches and this might be possible, cause he only plays tvz in the last 2 matches
Arvendilin
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany1878 Posts
May 11 2017 10:32 GMT
#12
On May 11 2017 19:25 oEkY wrote:
would be funny to see Light advancing to round of 4 with 3 losses in his first 3 matches and this might be possible, cause he only plays tvz in the last 2 matches

That would be an awesome storyline, however Id hate to see this tournament also having Terrans overrepresented
My heroes: Jangbi, Bisu, Stork and BeSt for BW, Rain, Zest and Stats for SC2! Need a better Signature tbh...
gngfn
Profile Joined January 2009
United States1726 Posts
May 11 2017 10:36 GMT
#13
Wow that was actually sick, Ssak's SCVs blocked the regular exit from his Factory so his Siege Tank spawned on the opposite side from the mines. Didn't matter though
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10045 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-11 10:37:26
May 11 2017 10:37 GMT
#14
0/2 so far, feels bad
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
kerpal
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom2695 Posts
May 11 2017 10:46 GMT
#15
On May 11 2017 19:37 TT1 wrote:
0/2 so far, feels bad

it's ok, i was with you (although I think SK might beat hero)
kerpal
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom2695 Posts
May 11 2017 10:52 GMT
#16
omg these guys do not know zvz.

This is 9pool vs 12 hatch.
kerpal
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom2695 Posts
May 11 2017 10:58 GMT
#17
lol 'soulkey has a massive lead'
razorsuKe
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2040 Posts
May 11 2017 11:00 GMT
#18
omg... is this come back actually possible? O_O
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nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
May 11 2017 11:00 GMT
#19
Hero stomped that fight, one scourge left at the end against nothing.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
kerpal
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom2695 Posts
May 11 2017 11:00 GMT
#20
I'll admit this is surprisingly close, which is super impressive for SK.
Arvendilin
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany1878 Posts
May 11 2017 11:01 GMT
#21
what is it with ZvZ's that are not shit in the last week, super weird
My heroes: Jangbi, Bisu, Stork and BeSt for BW, Rain, Zest and Stats for SC2! Need a better Signature tbh...
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
May 11 2017 11:02 GMT
#22
ZvZ best bw matchup confirmed
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
kerpal
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom2695 Posts
May 11 2017 11:03 GMT
#23
are they seriously suggesting that hero is making muta upgrades from his evo
razorsuKe
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2040 Posts
May 11 2017 11:04 GMT
#24
OMFG OMFG NO WAY
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kerpal
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom2695 Posts
May 11 2017 11:05 GMT
#25
OMG soulkey!
Arvendilin
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany1878 Posts
May 11 2017 11:05 GMT
#26
wtf is Soulkey an actual literal god?
My heroes: Jangbi, Bisu, Stork and BeSt for BW, Rain, Zest and Stats for SC2! Need a better Signature tbh...
lamarine
Profile Joined January 2003
591 Posts
May 11 2017 11:05 GMT
#27
just WOW!
So... BW is back
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10045 Posts
May 11 2017 11:05 GMT
#28
0/3 rip
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
Esp1noza
Profile Joined September 2003
Russian Federation481 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-11 11:06:12
May 11 2017 11:05 GMT
#29
Soulkey! So goood! I love him more and more.
BroodWar forever
razorsuKe
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2040 Posts
May 11 2017 11:05 GMT
#30
how.... HOW
I mean I watched that shit happen, but HOW??
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nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
May 11 2017 11:06 GMT
#31
What a game! So long as one hatch vs two hatches, I thought more larvas would win hero the game.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
May 11 2017 11:08 GMT
#32
I really don't understand hero here, all he had to do was to make sure soulkey cannot expand again, he really only needs mutalisks for that. Why build that many zerglings? I guess i am missing something
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Arvendilin
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany1878 Posts
May 11 2017 11:10 GMT
#33
On May 11 2017 20:08 The_Red_Viper wrote:
I really don't understand hero here, all he had to do was to make sure soulkey cannot expand again, he really only needs mutalisks for that. Why build that many zerglings? I guess i am missing something


I don't understand it either, with the gas lead he should've been able to just out muta Soulkey and win
My heroes: Jangbi, Bisu, Stork and BeSt for BW, Rain, Zest and Stats for SC2! Need a better Signature tbh...
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
May 11 2017 11:11 GMT
#34
One macro game to end the day would be nice.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
kerpal
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom2695 Posts
May 11 2017 11:11 GMT
#35
On May 11 2017 20:10 Arvendilin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2017 20:08 The_Red_Viper wrote:
I really don't understand hero here, all he had to do was to make sure soulkey cannot expand again, he really only needs mutalisks for that. Why build that many zerglings? I guess i am missing something


I don't understand it either, with the gas lead he should've been able to just out muta Soulkey and win

I think soulkey was more efficient getting scourge hits against mutas? I'm not 100% sure.
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10045 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-11 11:12:20
May 11 2017 11:12 GMT
#36
On May 11 2017 20:11 nojok wrote:
One macro game to end the day would be nice.


in b4 hydra allin
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
Arvendilin
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany1878 Posts
May 11 2017 11:14 GMT
#37
On May 11 2017 20:11 kerpal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2017 20:10 Arvendilin wrote:
On May 11 2017 20:08 The_Red_Viper wrote:
I really don't understand hero here, all he had to do was to make sure soulkey cannot expand again, he really only needs mutalisks for that. Why build that many zerglings? I guess i am missing something


I don't understand it either, with the gas lead he should've been able to just out muta Soulkey and win

I think soulkey was more efficient getting scourge hits against mutas? I'm not 100% sure.


He was 100%, thats how he managed to reset the count, but I mean after that, when it was 2 vs 1 base, Effort should've still been able to produce more mutas, to come back faster than Soulkey who only had 1 gas to rebound, but I'm probably missing something
My heroes: Jangbi, Bisu, Stork and BeSt for BW, Rain, Zest and Stats for SC2! Need a better Signature tbh...
Arvendilin
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany1878 Posts
May 11 2017 11:16 GMT
#38
Rain is my favorite SC2 player of all time, but I also really love effort, really conflicted on who I want to win
My heroes: Jangbi, Bisu, Stork and BeSt for BW, Rain, Zest and Stats for SC2! Need a better Signature tbh...
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
May 11 2017 11:17 GMT
#39
On May 11 2017 20:16 Arvendilin wrote:
Rain is my favorite SC2 player of all time, but I also really love effort, really conflicted on who I want to win

Rain should win so both are at 3-2 and can still make it to playoffs :D
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Arvendilin
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany1878 Posts
May 11 2017 11:18 GMT
#40
On May 11 2017 20:17 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2017 20:16 Arvendilin wrote:
Rain is my favorite SC2 player of all time, but I also really love effort, really conflicted on who I want to win

Rain should win so both are at 3-2 and can still make it to playoffs :D

Good thinking, effort only has one loss right now!

Cheering for rain then :D
My heroes: Jangbi, Bisu, Stork and BeSt for BW, Rain, Zest and Stats for SC2! Need a better Signature tbh...
kerpal
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom2695 Posts
May 11 2017 11:22 GMT
#41
that was clever zealot play, but efforts hold was sick.
kerpal
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom2695 Posts
May 11 2017 11:24 GMT
#42
i don't think effort knew that rain had no detection there.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
May 11 2017 11:28 GMT
#43
well rain tried i guess
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
gngfn
Profile Joined January 2009
United States1726 Posts
May 11 2017 11:28 GMT
#44
Rain had a lot of good tactical ideas but his execution failed him against Effort's Drone drills and simcities...
Arvendilin
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany1878 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-11 11:29:36
May 11 2017 11:29 GMT
#45
Very cute try, but effort is too strong!

A nice fun game to round off this group :D
My heroes: Jangbi, Bisu, Stork and BeSt for BW, Rain, Zest and Stats for SC2! Need a better Signature tbh...
razorsuKe
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2040 Posts
May 11 2017 11:29 GMT
#46
On May 11 2017 20:14 Arvendilin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2017 20:11 kerpal wrote:
On May 11 2017 20:10 Arvendilin wrote:
On May 11 2017 20:08 The_Red_Viper wrote:
I really don't understand hero here, all he had to do was to make sure soulkey cannot expand again, he really only needs mutalisks for that. Why build that many zerglings? I guess i am missing something


I don't understand it either, with the gas lead he should've been able to just out muta Soulkey and win

I think soulkey was more efficient getting scourge hits against mutas? I'm not 100% sure.


He was 100%, thats how he managed to reset the count, but I mean after that, when it was 2 vs 1 base, Effort should've still been able to produce more mutas, to come back faster than Soulkey who only had 1 gas to rebound, but I'm probably missing something


You mean herO, not effort
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Arvendilin
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany1878 Posts
May 11 2017 11:30 GMT
#47
On May 11 2017 20:29 razorsuKe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2017 20:14 Arvendilin wrote:
On May 11 2017 20:11 kerpal wrote:
On May 11 2017 20:10 Arvendilin wrote:
On May 11 2017 20:08 The_Red_Viper wrote:
I really don't understand hero here, all he had to do was to make sure soulkey cannot expand again, he really only needs mutalisks for that. Why build that many zerglings? I guess i am missing something


I don't understand it either, with the gas lead he should've been able to just out muta Soulkey and win

I think soulkey was more efficient getting scourge hits against mutas? I'm not 100% sure.


He was 100%, thats how he managed to reset the count, but I mean after that, when it was 2 vs 1 base, Effort should've still been able to produce more mutas, to come back faster than Soulkey who only had 1 gas to rebound, but I'm probably missing something


You mean herO, not effort

Oh yea, ofcourse, I was already worrying about the next match while writing this ;;
My heroes: Jangbi, Bisu, Stork and BeSt for BW, Rain, Zest and Stats for SC2! Need a better Signature tbh...
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
May 11 2017 11:32 GMT
#48
It's exactly the kind of game which makes me don't want to see any information.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Spyfire242
Profile Joined March 2009
United States715 Posts
May 11 2017 11:34 GMT
#49
Rain trying to be too cute, EffOrt holds it off beautifully.
Entusman #55 Spyfire242!
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium7003 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-11 11:37:11
May 11 2017 11:36 GMT
#50
effort destroyed flash 4-2 yesterday,so unfortunate he failed that zvz vs soulkey and loss to bisu :/
anyway GG,best zerg in the world!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
tanngard
Profile Joined April 2011
Norway1325 Posts
May 11 2017 11:40 GMT
#51
On May 11 2017 20:32 nojok wrote:
It's exactly the kind of game which makes me don't want to see any information.

I agree. It makes us think for ourselves and that is part of the fun making predictions on the back of that.

And some feedback to Rapid; one cannot tell from the evo chamber graphic that it is upgrading and also mutalisk upgrades are researched in the spire, not the evo chamber.
Burned Toast *
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada2040 Posts
May 11 2017 13:17 GMT
#52
VODs available in the Small VOD Thread 2.0 ...
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Spyfire242
Profile Joined March 2009
United States715 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-11 19:33:53
May 11 2017 19:31 GMT
#53
On May 11 2017 20:10 Arvendilin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2017 20:08 The_Red_Viper wrote:
I really don't understand hero here, all he had to do was to make sure soulkey cannot expand again, he really only needs mutalisks for that. Why build that many zerglings? I guess i am missing something


I don't understand it either, with the gas lead he should've been able to just out muta Soulkey and win


This is what I believe happened...

In hero's mind the only chance that he would lose would be to a ling run by killing all his drones while his small amount of mutas wouldn't be able to deal as much damage as quickly in return, so he invested allot of larva into zergling's to protect his drones. Hero probably thought this was the correct decision as Soulkey makes a 'desperate' attempt to run by into the main to snipe drones with his remaining ling force, meanwhile Soulkey is already switching back into mutas and using all his larva for it.

After 'sucessfully' defending the ling counter attack, Hero makes a few drones at his natural and starts to go back into muta production with the rest of his larva but at this point soulkey has a critical mass of mutalisks that can end the game in that precise moment.

Keep in mind Hero was ahead almost that entire game, and he was just trying to ensure that nothing would challenge that, Soulkey just played a beautiful tactical game to overcome his weaker position, getting more drone kills and sniping allot of mutalisks with scourge.
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Spyfire242
Profile Joined March 2009
United States715 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-11 19:36:51
May 11 2017 19:35 GMT
#54

Entusman #55 Spyfire242!
ldv
Profile Blog Joined April 2017
United States103 Posts
May 12 2017 16:45 GMT
#55
The english commentators have got to go. They are worse than listening to Rebecca Black on repeat while watching the vods without sound. God they are worthless as commentators.
Burned Toast *
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada2040 Posts
May 12 2017 19:20 GMT
#56
On May 13 2017 01:45 ldv wrote:
The english commentators have got to go. They are worse than listening to Rebecca Black on repeat while watching the vods without sound. God they are worthless as commentators.


First, saying to someone that he's « worthless » isn't a nice thing to say on a forum like TL. There's people behind these commentators and i'm sure you would appreciate a more constructive critics if you were in their position.

Second, You're free to watch the korean version if you want. It's not like you have no choice.

Third, You're not paying anything for that. Just relax and enjoy the game on mute if it fits your needs.
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