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ODT Dual Tournament Round 2 Group C
07-04-19 (Thursday), 14:00 Korea, 22:00 Tl.net
1: fOrGG_V < Longinus 2 > Much[gm]
2: iloveoov < Longinus 2 > Light[aLive]
3: Winners < Neo Arkanoid >
4: Losers < Neo Arkanoid >
5: Finals < Hitchhiker >
+ Show Spoiler [Results] +
fOrGG_V > Much
Light[alive] > iloveoov
iloveoov and Light advance
ODT Dual Tournament Round 2 Group D
07-04-19 (Thursday), 18:30, 00:30 Tl.net
1: Bifrost < Longinus 2 > AnyTime..[gm]
2: Hwasin < Longinus 2 > July
3: Winners < Neo Arkanoid >
4: Losers < Neo Arkanoid >
5: Finals < Hitchhiker >
+ Show Spoiler [Results] +
Hwasin > Julyzerg
Anytime > Bifrost
Hwasin and Bifrost Advance
Some awesome Matches tonight  (equally difficult liquibets  )
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When are they starting tl.net time? I just took an amazing evening nap so I'll probably do some live reporting!
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To the right of the times are the TL.net times. Terran fighting!
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Wasn't there when I posted Kaz.
Anyway looking forward to those games!
Predictions:
Group C:
fOrGG_V(T) < Much[gm] @ Longinus 2
iloveoov(T) > LighT[aLive] @ Longinus 2
iloveoov(T) > Much[gm] @ Neo Arkanoid
fOrGG_V(T) > LighT[aLive] @ Neo Arkanoid
fOrGG_V(T) < Much[gm] @ Hitchhiker
Group D:
Bifrost > Anytime..[gm] @ Longinus 2
Hwasin < JulyZerg @ Longinus 2
Bifrost > JulyZerg @ Neo Arkanoid
Hwasin > Anytime..[gm] @ Neo Arkanoid
JulyZerg < Anytime..[gm] @ Neo Arkanoid
Some ballsy predictions there I know .
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
My predictions
1: fOrGG_V > Much[gm]
2: iloveoov > Light[aLive]
3: iloveoov > fOrGG_V_
4: Light[aLive] > Much[gm]
5: Light[aLive] > fOrGG_V_
1: Bifrost > AnyTime..[gm]
2: Hwasin > July
3: Hwasin > Bifrost
4: July > AnyTime..[gm]
5: July > Bifrost
Im not too fussy about who wins tonight... as long as anytime loses :D
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thedeadhaji
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wow I think plexa voted in the same way as me for group C O_O
differences in Group D...
3: Bifrost > Hwasin
5: Hwasin > July
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is there like an hour of commentary before the actual matches?
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Usually about 10 minutes I think?
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Yeah Hwasin over July. Group D is almost certain death imo.
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Bifrost better not advance. Remember his last game on arkanoid? I hope he chokes on a stick.
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On April 18 2007 21:18 fusionsdf wrote:
Bifrost better not advance. Remember his last game on arkanoid? I hope he chokes on a stick.
Ditto.
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On April:18 fusionsdf wrote:
Bifrost better not advance. Remember his last game on arkanoid? I hope he chokes on a stick.
i don't want to watch another one of his games t.t SO BORING.
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On April 18 2007 21:18 fusionsdf wrote:
Bifrost better not advance. Remember his last game on arkanoid? I hope he chokes on a stick.
I missed this game I guess. What happened?
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On April 18 2007 21:39 mikeymoo wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2007 21:18 fusionsdf wrote:
Bifrost better not advance. Remember his last game on arkanoid? I hope he chokes on a stick. I missed this game I guess. What happened?
ugly tvp where t abused everything possible to win.
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Seriously...u dunno how happy I am that ODT with oov is actually EARLY for once...haha =D starts in 2min~~
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On April 18 2007 20:33 thedeadhaji wrote:
wow I think plexa voted in the same way as me for group C O_O
differences in Group D...
3: Bifrost > Hwasin
5: Hwasin > July thats gotta be a first..
perhaps that means im going to get votes right this time?
or perhaps, it means haji is having an off day
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First game is starting
gogo much!!!
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Much @ 7, ForGG @ 3 of Longinus.
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Commentators laugha bout a Kakaru... don't know why...
Supply depot by main for forGG, pylon just warps for Much.
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Terran rax and refinery building atm. Sends his SCV scout the correct way.
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Much gets is gate/gas. Netics just thrown down.
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everyone loves the 14nex these days
gogo boxer 6th sense build on their asses -.-;
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Nexus finished warping, as the scout scv harasses a bit and sees all of much's buildings. 3 rines and a fact for terran, and a shop being put down.
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A zeal runs in on the 4 rines and, obviously, heads for the hills.
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6 rines and tanks and scv for ForGG, timing rush. Core is spinning, and much has 2 goon + zeal.
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4 goon + zeal now. ForGG continues applying pressure, witha vult coming in with mines. ForGG mines the choke of Much's.
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Robo done for Much, obs following. 3 gates pumping.
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forGG grabs a few turrets at his expo (sorry missed that earlier) and has a handful of tanks.
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Much tries to expand to 9:00, but there is a spider mine in te way of his nexus. He lets his goon ake damage?!? in order to build it.
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Two academies from forGG... one machine shop running. We know he has siege + mines, so it must be speed. Wtf bad micro on forGG makes him lift his cc.
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Terran wanted to harass 9:00 with vults, but was deflected by 10 goons or so. 8 gates going for much.
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Vults try to raid much's natural, but is deflected by a few zeals, a partial pylon wall, and a cannon. A mine gets some of the zeals though.
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8 bults make it into much's main. Much counterattacks at 3:00 (T natural). Stargate, temp archives from Much. (Stargate is at 9.)
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7 or 8 pumping facts for forGG. FP of both players, notbaly Much made an arb tribunal.
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Terran's min only is up, draggons try to raid it, but tanks + mines make them leave.
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SHUTTLE FOR MUCH!!! Storms about 15 workers, and makes terran's scvs evacuate. Stargate producing an arb i assume.
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BIG FIGHT just SE on that higher ground hill in the middle. Lots of tanks + vults die to multipl storms. Terran counterattacks with vults in Much's main.
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Zeals deal with the harass, and a bad mine takes out 3 vults.
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Oh whoops. Protoss has 5:00. ARBITER OUT!
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12 gates vs 11 facts. 2 gates building at 5.
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gols out for terran. about 6 temps do some serious storming, too bad they die so easily. OMG vults try AGAIN to raid much's main, but are deterred by zeals.
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forGG pushing with many tanks + vults into much's main and nat.
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nvm. bye bye nat. all the gates are going down atm. looks bad for much.
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But much kills the 12:00 expo. However, P experienced more losses.
Goons + temps recalled in the T main, taking down depots, etc. 2 stargates for much now.
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dt's for much. T may not expect this.
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4 gates + 2 building at 5.
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"two gates building" that is.
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forGG moves out, and essentially ttries to take out all P expos. doesn't look good at all for much. An arb stasises gols on the ramp, to delay. 5:00 being taken down. I expect gg any second.
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Much counterattacks with like 8 goons OH NOEZ.
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forGG with 6 bases or so, much with what, 1? 2?
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if yesterday is anything to go by...
bye bye much
we will miss you from OSL
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Much slowly building his army, but terran will reconstruct/make more units MCUH faster with like 5 times the econ.
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lol...3x army flank from both sides.
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5:00 going down slowly but surely. Maybe Much had a bad day? He's not leaving.
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why the fuck is he not typing out
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There. Finally GG. OMG that was stupid.
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should have ended like 10 min ago. btw, I'm flooding, so live reports may not be as frequent. I will try and fit more in each post.
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United States20661 Posts
Sounds like an ugly game.
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95% of posts on page two are mine lol.
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Augh I need to take a shit... can someone take the live reporting reins if I don't make it back?
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United States7488 Posts
On April 18 2007 22:35 mikeymoo wrote:
Augh I need to take a shit... can someone take the live reporting reins if I don't make it back?
must be quite a shit!
I will if no one else is doing it.
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nvm I forgot the incredulous wait times. I'm back. It was epic. 
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During the reports i thought much was winning. He made 14 nexus without any trouble, blocked harass good everywhere, storm dropped and lost horribly? how did it happen?
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On April 18 2007 22:45 mikeymoo wrote:nvm I forgot the incredulous wait times. I'm back. It was epic.
Did you name it?
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This next game just never seems like it's gonna start...
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On April 18 2007 22:46 SpiritAshura wrote:
This next game just never seems like it's gonna start...
I just rewatched Bisu v Midas and the second game still hasn't started!?
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On April 18 2007 22:46 Last Romantic wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2007 22:45 mikeymoo wrote:nvm I forgot the incredulous wait times. I'm back. It was epic. Did you name it?
Ah crap. Where was that thread? Someone suggested a crap competition.
No, it wasn't really any good. It's just been a couple days so it felt good, I guess.
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What did much wrong? Hasn't built a scout?
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It's starting now.
I dunno what was with the massive gap between games compared to usual, or maybe I just ran out of things to read while waiting.
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On April 18 2007 22:47 entityrj wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2007 22:46 SpiritAshura wrote:
This next game just never seems like it's gonna start... I just rewatched Bisu v Midas and the second game still hasn't started!?
I just rewatched Titanic.
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oOv @ 7, Light @ 2. Longinus is our map, folks. GOGO OOV!
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On April 18 2007 22:49 KizZBG wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2007 22:47 entityrj wrote:On April 18 2007 22:46 SpiritAshura wrote:
This next game just never seems like it's gonna start... I just rewatched Bisu v Midas and the second game still hasn't started!? I just rewatched Titanic.
LOL.
That basically just made my night.
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Both get a depot. Light optimizes his to get gas faster later.
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Light's rax is slightly ahead.
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Light sends a scout to the wrong position, oov doesn't even scout yet. Gas done for both, I assume. (Only saw oov's.)
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Oov's factory is ahead by a bit due to light's scv scout. I think the depot by the gas was done wrong... doesn't look optimized.
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Oov scouts the wrong way, lifts his rax to his choke and grabs his expo.
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Light building a second fact, and armory. Oov builds and fills a bunker by his choke.
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Light with 2 vults and 3 rines, oov fights with one tank + vult, oov wins. Both send rax to scout each other further.
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Oov grabs a second gas as well as armory. goliath out for Light. Acad also for him.
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Oov with 3 facts, 2 shops. Light with 4 facts, 3 shops. One fact is actually building atm. Light's scout rax almost dies to hellfire missiles.
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Oh how I hate light's hair.
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oov paying tank leapfrog into light's natural.
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oov takes his min only, only to have light run in with sieged tanks and gols. But oov chases him and his FLAMBUOYANT RED HAIR away.
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12:00 for light. I didn't mention it earlier because i didn't see a cc. Light drops a Starport and control tower.
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Oov takes 9:00... but ight sees this. 12:00 being taken down by gorilla goliaths. Light with two dropships, don't know what he plans to do. Light saves his 12:00 expo.
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oov, tactical master he is, drops many turrets down at potential drop spots.
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One of light's dropship dies... we never get to see what's inside.
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6+ facts for oov, with shops on all. Tank fight NE of centrea, with oov taking high ground.
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Brilliant move by light. Runs 3 dropships without somsatting the path, thus losing a dropship to a clump of goliaths. Oov turrets up even more.
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8 goliaths or so of oov's decimate 5:00.
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4 ports + towers for oov.
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On April 18 2007 23:05 OctoPuSs wrote:
5 ports bc's!
geez, weren't you going to live report?
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Someone took 11:00... didn't see colour, but i think it was oov, with llight chasing him out w/ one goliath.
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BC BC BC for oov. YES, that's 3.
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u gotta skate8152 Posts
BCs, this is going to be a long ass game.
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United States20661 Posts
oov's bc killing all sorts of crap at his nat/9oclock
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Just NE of centrea, light wins a tank battle from lower gound due to sheer numbers.
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Light's forces remove oov's small tank/turret force from the plateau.
oov sends bcs to 11's nat
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bc's definitely giving oov the advantage though. he's taking down quite a few tanks, etc.
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United States20661 Posts
light's forces approach oov's min only, and retreat due to tank defense
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Canada7170 Posts
Thanks for the help reporting, LR. I need to go after this game probably. Like haji, I need sleep.
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oov has 7 or 8 skycows?
oov kills 11 nat cc
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7 skycows for oov I think. Light starts massing ports.
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Damn. If I weren't such a rank amateur I'd help out.
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Light going with WRAITHS! Classic TvT play. Where are the ghosts?!?
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On April 18 2007 23:11 Fenneth wrote:
Damn. If I weren't such a rank amateur I'd help out.
rank amateur?
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Light or oov captruing 9:00?
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BIG DROP in oov's main. light drops 12 gols or so, and the bc's don't dare come to defend. Looks like 20 wraiths or so atm for Light.
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one skycow dies to goliath fire
like 10 tank 10 bc for oov or so
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wraiths moving out
bc go to 9, pull back b/c of 2 goli wtf?
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LIGHT CLOAKS RIGHT BEFORE PASSING OOV'S UNITS! GG?!?
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On April 18 2007 23:16 Last Romantic wrote:
wraiths moving out
bc go to 9, pull back b/c of 2 goli wtf?
Yeah, I don't get it.
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well that was anti-climatic :O!
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Light took down the comsat at oov's main with his drop. Brilliant tactical play.
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WHY DID HE HAVE NO SCAN? HE HAD LIKE 4 COMSATS AND THERE WAS A TURRET NOT THAT FAR AWAY
WTF?!
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On April 18 2007 23:12 mikeymoo wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2007 23:11 Fenneth wrote:
Damn. If I weren't such a rank amateur I'd help out. rank amateur?
I don't know enough about starcraft. I'd forget what things are called :p If there's anything I could do which doesn't require good knowledge of the game then I'd be happy to help..
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Laaaaaamesauce. Oov had so many cc's... ytf didn't he make comsats? I mean... gols > bc's in big numbers. wraiths > bc in big numbers. GET A SCAN NOOB.
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This seems to be a reoccuring thing for me tonight.
Losing the bets horribly. -.-
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On April 18 2007 23:17 Fenneth wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2007 23:12 mikeymoo wrote:On April 18 2007 23:11 Fenneth wrote:
Damn. If I weren't such a rank amateur I'd help out. rank amateur? I don't know enough about starcraft. I'd forget what things are called :p If there's anything I could do which doesn't require good knowledge of the game then I'd be happy to help..
make up names for things!
tasteless calls vultures "Bikes"
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ROFLLLL holy shit games today are subpar
forGG vs Much = forGG has gosu macro, much is TERRIBLE and can't macro or exp
oov vs light = LOL oov giant advantage, decides to 4port BC, gets fucking slapped in the face FUCK that was terrible play, he should have won after sniping those three full dropships but he decides to totally waste his advantage, not defend expos, THEN AT END HE RUNS OUT OF SCAN FUCK
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Oov has instinct. Do not question oov.
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On April 18 2007 23:17 Fenneth wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2007 23:12 mikeymoo wrote:On April 18 2007 23:11 Fenneth wrote:
Damn. If I weren't such a rank amateur I'd help out. rank amateur? I don't know enough about starcraft. I'd forget what things are called :p If there's anything I could do which doesn't require good knowledge of the game then I'd be happy to help..
I see.
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am i the only person who thinks this is PERFECT?
MUCH VS OOV NEXT!! ^_^_^_^
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Canada7170 Posts
0/2. The one season I KNOW things about the progaming scene, there are so many upsets.
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MUCH AND OOV WAS SUPPOSED TO BE WINNER THOUGH
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Aight, I best be off. I want to see some gooood live reports!
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TheMarine looks so pasty T-T
I liked him.
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Ok Light better win this. If it's going to be a terran OSL, at least let it be the big names.
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Let's have Light and oov, I guess.
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On April 18 2007 23:19 Day[9] wrote:
am i the only person who thinks this is PERFECT?
MUCH VS OOV NEXT!! ^_^_^_^ on a shitty ass map which oov is sure to win on
unless he screws up
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United States20661 Posts
Light's teal on the bottom right
ForGG brown top left
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both players MINING MINERALS
I think next both will build DEPOT
and after that... DUAL CC
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Both do a vertical 14cc
Light sent his scv a bit early
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Both start raxes near their second cc
Light attempts the depot trick to scout?
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Both also have their gas
it doesn't look like Light did the trick, he only built depot at his temples
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Both building factory...
observer isn't showing very much though.
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Light 3 marines, ForGG 1 marine, killing cocoons
lifted rax going to scout
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First fac done, second building for both
both scout wrong direction [vertically for both]
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Armory acad for both
wtf is this mirror
3 marines of light now killing bottom left cocoons
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light has machine, forgg builds golis
both have port with tower, forgg's slightly faster b/c he had no machine
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Light 4 golis 3 marines working on entrance temples now
dships for both
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ForGG drops north nat, forces scv run and kills 5 or 6
Light does the SAME THING at forgg's south nat
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tanks and marines clear out the bases of both players
dropship duel - light comes out ahead due to tank reinforcements
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Both players have third multi up and running
both players cruising around with dropships, no action.
what a boring game
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Light's floating rax falls to goli fire
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Light distraction at ForGG's entrance, trip dropship at ForGG's east nat
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five ships of light vs 4 of forgg, cruising around
forgg clears his base with tanks and scvs
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5 dropships hit forgg's south nat, kill scvs, force lift
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both players neglect defense, killing all sorts of stuff with drops
right now there are tank/goli drops in both players' multis, with lines of tanks facing off
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forgg's tanks clear his bases of light's troops
light still has 4 tanks and some goli in his north nat's little enclosure area
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Light drops ForGG's harassing forces, wipes them out
now both players return to cruising around with dships
Light has top right main
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Light has 1 or two more dships, I think
neither side committing to action
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yawnnn.
much vs oov please.
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6 dropships at ForGG's east nat, complete failure as brown tanks eat all golis and tanks dropped
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both sides have a large number of tanks, and about 7 dropships apiece
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ForGG goes in with six ships, 10 ground tanks
all die in trade for like 4 tanks and 4 goli, Light somewhat ahead
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forGG loses two ships for nothing, wtf
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I think Light has the best TvT
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Light six ship drop at ForGG south nat, kills it
ForGG all in at Light main, fails, he surrenders
Light>ForGG
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I'm out, going to sleep
GOoDLucK oov ^^;
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TvT is so fukin boring god
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u gotta skate8152 Posts
On April 18 2007 23:45 em.and.m wrote:
I think Light has the best TvT
Nada and Iris have the best TvT IMO.
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Nada vs Light will decide, I don't think Iris's TvT is on par maybe just a little better than GF's...definately not Nada's level or Light's(after seeing todays TvT)
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On April 18 2007 23:48 KizZBG wrote:Nada and Iris have the best TvT IMO.
true dat
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just got in progaming em.and.m? Iris is for sure on par with the best in TvT, and Light is well know for his weak TvT 2 or 3 games don't mean much.
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On April 18 2007 23:49 em.and.m wrote:
Nada vs Light will decide, I don't think Iris's TvT is on par maybe just a little better than GF's...definately not Nada's level or Light's(after seeing todays TvT) lights tvt is really disappointing
it loses frequently we hope it gets better!!
and iris/nada are definatly frontrunners being top tvt/2nd tvt 06 by stats
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what is with the corsairs?
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goon/dweb for much will be interesting
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On April 18 2007 23:53 Samejima wrote:
just got in progaming em.and.m? Iris is for sure on par with the best in TvT, and Light is well know for his weak TvT 2 or 3 games don't mean much.
umm noo...just after seeing todays performance it seemed like Light's TvT got better and has a pretty good chance vs Iris...
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oov>much - typical TvP arkanoid game
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On April 19 2007 00:12 em.and.m wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2007 23:53 Samejima wrote:
just got in progaming em.and.m? Iris is for sure on par with the best in TvT, and Light is well know for his weak TvT 2 or 3 games don't mean much. umm noo...just after seeing todays performance it seemed like Light's TvT got better and has a pretty good chance vs Iris...
light might have a chance if Iris went into cardiac arrest in the middle of the game
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suffeli
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Oh god I hate ForGGs posture when he plays.
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meh oov won, thank god he went through
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NICE both oov and light got through~~
GO OOV!!
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I will cry if only terrans make it in from the next group.
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United States7166 Posts
im trying to find a thread explaining the ODT format but couldnt find any that helped me..
can anyone explain how the winners/losers/finals work? and why in liquibet for the winners you select 2 boxes out of the 4?
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On April 19 2007 00:42 suffeli wrote:
Oh god I hate ForGGs posture when he plays.
Word. It's a combination of his nose and mouth. Looks like a fish.
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On April 19 2007 01:04 Raist wrote:
im trying to find a thread explaining the ODT format but couldnt find any that helped me..
can anyone explain how the winners/losers/finals work? and why in liquibet for the winners you select 2 boxes out of the 4?
A vs B
C vs D
Winner of AB vs Winner of CD -> winner advances
Loser of AB vs Loser of CD -> loser is elim
Loser of Winners game vs Winner of losers game -> winner advances, loser elim
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Another 2 terrans advance... By now we have something like 7 terrans, 1 zerg (Savior) and 1 protoss (Bisu) in osl right?
It looks like only tvt fans will be happy this time...
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I voted hwasin, but I hope anytime and july advance!
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On April 19 2007 01:26 ~chut~ wrote:
Another 2 terrans advance... By now we have something like 7 terrans, 1 zerg (Savior) and 1 protoss (Bisu) in osl right?
It looks like only tvt fans will be happy this time... *5 terrans *2 zerg (shark + savior)
light
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Oh yeah i forgot Shark !
But you forgot Oov and Casy, that makes 7 of them already.
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hahaha oops i did too;;
lets see whos left, red = in osl, blue = elim in ODT rnd 1, green = elim odt rnd 2 black = fate pending
+ Show Spoiler [players left in ODT/OSL] +
Midas[gm] T (Jun Sang Wook)
GoodFrienD T ( Lee Byung Min)
Light[Alive] T (Lee Jae Ho)
fOrGG T (Park Ji Soo)
dOnGraE T (Lee Hak Ju)
Yooi T (Han Seung Yup)
Hwasin T (Jin Yeong Su)
Sea.Up T (Shin Hee Seung)
iloveoov T (Choi Yun Sung)
FireBatHero T (Lee Sung Eun)
Lomo[fOu] T (Son Jooheung)
HiyA[fOu] T (Goo Sunghoon)
Sea[Shield] T (Yum Bosung)
XellOs[yG] T (Seo Jihoon)
Bifrost T (Won Jongsuh)
TheManiaMST T (Joo Hyunjoon)
Hery[Hyo] T (Kim Yoonhwan)
O.oc T (Kim Donggun)
By.Flash T (Lee Youngho)
DArKeLf[S.siR] T (Kim Sunggi)
FreeDom.werra T (Jang Yongsuk)
Shine[Name] T (Ahn Sangwon)
GoRush Z (Park Tae Min)
ZergMaN Z (Park Sung Jun)
Child Z (Kim Nam Ki)
YellOw[ArnC] Z (Park Myung Soo)
ChOJJa Z (Jo Yong Ho)
July Z (Park Sung Jun)
GGPlay Z (Kim Jun Yung)
Sea.Jy Z (Jang Wook)
s.s.m~[SiLvEr] Z (Shim Somyoung)
n.Die_Jaedong Z (Lee Jaedong)
Shark[gm] Z (Suh Kyungjong)
Hazin[saM] Z (Chae Jihoon)
815 Z (Bae Byungwoo)
JiHyun[jOypOp] Z (Lee Jaehwang)
Luxury[GsP] Z (Park Chansoo)
Anytime[gm] P (Oh Yung Jong)
Much[gm] P (Park Yung Min)
Bisu[Shield] P (Kim Taekyong)
PuSan[S.G] P (Park Jiho)
free[gm] P (Yoon Yongtae)
Dream.t)Jangbi P (Hu Youngmoo)
Kingdom P (Park Yongwook)
Ever) P (Park Sunghoon)
[Oops]Reach P (Park Jungseok)
teSteR..[gm] P (Seo Gisoo)
stork P (Song Byunggoo)
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Anytime vs Justin(rofl) starts now
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standard openings so far, 1 rax gas for bifrost and 1 gate gas core for anytime.
bifrost starts fact and a few marines. anytime upgrading range.
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am i the only one excited about the games from this group?
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Nope! Thanks a lot for the report!
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holy shit anytime just raped bifrost so hard.
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On April 19 2007 02:50 YoUr_KiLLeR wrote:
holy shit anytime just raped bifrost so hard.
now THAT was a good report
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On April 19 2007 02:41 YoUr_KiLLeR wrote:
am i the only one excited about the games from this group? nope you are not
hwasin vs july is the real deal
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lol =p.
i stopped cuz i thought no one was reading anyway.
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hey i expected some gosu livereports...
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On April 19 2007 02:59 BeaTeR wrote:
hey i expected some gosu livereports... that exclude me phew
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STARTINGGGGGG
longinus. hwasin at 7 and july at 3.
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anyone knows who won on keke vs ganzi ?
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july sends overlord the wrong way. hwasin starts depot at his choke, probably going to do the gay 1 rax CC build every terran does here.
july 12 hatch expo.
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what map is this? is has as many mineral patches as The Hunters
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hwasin seals off his choke with a rax and a 2nd depot and begins his CC.
july pooled and throws down a 3rd hatch.
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On April 19 2007 03:05 MadGamei wrote:
what map is this? is has as many mineral patches as The Hunters
longinus.
july starts gas soon after. hwasin puts down 2 more raxes before his acad.
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o this is longinus II? it always have 10 mineral patches?
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july lairs and takes his nat gas. hwasin's acad done and julys going to have to be careful cuz hwasin will have a lot of rines when he moves out.
lair done. spire building.
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On April 19 2007 03:07 Da_PlayerX wrote:
MadGamei lol roflmao
=) i just turned on stream
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mnm force moving out for hwasin. it stims and goes into julys choke and july has a single unmorphed colony and loses all his lings and drones to it.
will be gg any second. disappointing =(.
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gg.
hwasins early raxes caught july completely off guard. he moved out at an earlier timing than normal.
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On April 19 2007 03:07 MadGamei wrote:
o this is longinus II? it always have 10 mineral patches?
ya it does. 1 of them is 500 mins though.
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hwasin better be gosu tvp on islands
or ill be mad =X
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WOOOOOOOO PLEXA. LETS GO ANYTIME! 
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july's overlord didnt see him moving out? I guess it was too far up
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What about this fucking "I don't build any sunk and will lose to the first 10 m&m" style? 2 sunks would have been enough and no big waste of money...
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Looking forward to see a Zerg actualy win vs a good Terran on this map @ ODT
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it saw him moving out, but hwasin hid most of his rines inside his main at first. july saw how much he moved out with but couldn't get enough defense in time.
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i voted for Hwasin and July to qualify tho
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Keke beat Ganzi, Stork beat Iris
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he could have got it in time if he immediately made em. He didnt make a creep colony til hwasin was basically in his front door -_-
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On April 19 2007 03:12 Brutalisk wrote:
What about this fucking "I don't build any sunk and will lose to the first 10 m&m" style? 2 sunks would have been enough and no big waste of money...
hwasin went 1 rax CC then immediately threw down 2 more raxes before his acad. he got a lot of rines early and july never saw it coming. 2 sunks early would've been a waste against a more standard terran build and you can't afford to give up anything to a 1 rax CCing terran or you'll get rolled in 8-10 min.
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remember anytime vs midas on arcanoid.... if anytime uses same tacktick he probably will surprise hwasin and win easily... on the other side we saw a lot tvsp on arcanoid- tosses kinda sux on it
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both making double gate/rax
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a single zeal start punishing the temple
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3 marines for hwasing use their gauss rifles to kills the obtacle
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core for anytime
4 zeal punishing psi disruptors
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micro battle 6-7 zeals vs dozen rines 2 medics firebat comin
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hwasin moving forward citadel for anytime
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hwasing killed the gateway pylon
anytime typed out
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Is it me or is anytime sucking badly these days ?
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killed pylon before DT could come out lol
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pretty short game tho, both players decided to surprise each other, then they met in center but avoided the fight and simply hwasin waited for medics and firebat which gave him the advantage
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On April 19 2007 03:14 YoUr_KiLLeR wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2007 03:12 Brutalisk wrote:
What about this fucking "I don't build any sunk and will lose to the first 10 m&m" style? 2 sunks would have been enough and no big waste of money... hwasin went 1 rax CC then immediately threw down 2 more raxes before his acad. he got a lot of rines early and july never saw it coming. 2 sunks early would've been a waste against a more standard terran build and you can't afford to give up anything to a 1 rax CCing terran or you'll get rolled in 8-10 min.
It's far too greedy/risky not to get any sunks at the start, and it's better not to die after 5 minutes so you can get mutas/lurks. How the game develops then, no one can tell. But if you're so greedy and don't get any sunks because you HOPE that the Terran does a particular build then don't act surprised if you die in 5 fucking minutes like some BNet newbie.
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just showed the rep now, ohoho unlucky anytime^^
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i missed the part with the archives and dt's
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rofl they showed replay. DT would have been out in like 2 second literally. Anytime could have bought a little more time with zealots... then it was his game for sure
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On April 19 2007 03:30 Brutalisk wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2007 03:14 YoUr_KiLLeR wrote:On April 19 2007 03:12 Brutalisk wrote:
What about this fucking "I don't build any sunk and will lose to the first 10 m&m" style? 2 sunks would have been enough and no big waste of money... hwasin went 1 rax CC then immediately threw down 2 more raxes before his acad. he got a lot of rines early and july never saw it coming. 2 sunks early would've been a waste against a more standard terran build and you can't afford to give up anything to a 1 rax CCing terran or you'll get rolled in 8-10 min. It's far too greedy/risky not to get any sunks at the start, and it's better not to die after 5 minutes so you can get mutas/lurks. How the game develops then, no one can tell. But if you're so greedy and don't get any sunks then don't act surprised because you die in 5 fucking minutes like some BNet newbie. So, you'll play the inferior build just to be safe from the off chance you run into 3rax?
im sorry but at this level you need to take that risk, untill scouting tells otherwise
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anyway i wish july the whole luck in the world against justin and eventually vs anytime but who knows
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Then Terran could always do exactly this and every Zerg would always lose to it. You think that's smarter than playing safe?
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On April 19 2007 03:33 Brutalisk wrote:
Then Terran could always do exactly this and every Zerg would always lose to it. You think that's smarter than playing safe? untill scouting tells otherwise...
if all terrans did it, then zerg would catchon very quick and terran would lose, because 3rax is inferior unless its completely out of the blue (ie hwasin vs july today)
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On April 19 2007 03:30 Brutalisk wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2007 03:14 YoUr_KiLLeR wrote:On April 19 2007 03:12 Brutalisk wrote:
What about this fucking "I don't build any sunk and will lose to the first 10 m&m" style? 2 sunks would have been enough and no big waste of money... hwasin went 1 rax CC then immediately threw down 2 more raxes before his acad. he got a lot of rines early and july never saw it coming. 2 sunks early would've been a waste against a more standard terran build and you can't afford to give up anything to a 1 rax CCing terran or you'll get rolled in 8-10 min. It's far too greedy/risky not to get any sunks at the start, and it's better not to die after 5 minutes so you can get mutas/lurks. How the game develops then, no one can tell. But if you're so greedy and don't get any sunks because you HOPE that the Terran does a particular build then don't act surprised if you die in 5 fucking minutes like some BNet newbie.
yea thats a great idea. build sunks and slow down your drone count/eco and then the terran will kill you 5 min later with a huge army.
instead of taking the necessary risks to try to gain an advantage later, just give the advantage to the terran right now and wait for your inevitable loss. good idea.
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On April 19 2007 03:35 Plexa wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2007 03:33 Brutalisk wrote:
Then Terran could always do exactly this and every Zerg would always lose to it. You think that's smarter than playing safe? untill scouting tells otherwise... if all terrans did it, then zerg would catchon very quick and terran would lose, because 3rax is inferior unless its completely out of the blue (ie hwasin vs july today)
exactly. if terrans did this every game, they might win the first few, but eventually the zerg will adapt and it won't be an invincible build.
just like how savior used to dominate terrans with his muta control. terrans couldn't handle it for a while but now they've adapted to the level of muta micro that the top zergs have. it took a while, but they've figured out how to slow it down while staying in the game.
with your way of thinking, the terrans then should've just built 20 turrets right? i mean..play it safe, completely nullify the threat of mutas (all the while letting them take 6 gas and run you over 5 min later).
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Hwasin in... That's another useless terran in this osl. It looks like it will be incredibly boring
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u cant say hwasin is useless. he is the one who took 2 games from savior in bo5, and won against him in bo1 when nobody couldn't.
so show some respect to players who atually do something
edit: no offence but think about it
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anytime and july are both much more exciting players though =(.
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On April 19 2007 03:44 Da_PlayerX wrote:
u cant say hwasin is useless. he is the one who took 2 games from savior in bo5, and won against him in bo1 when nobody couldn't.
so show some respect to players who atually do something
edit: no offence but think about it the fact that this makes a whopping 8 terrans in this osl
2 zerg
1 protoss?
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well plexa why on earth the Ultimate Great protoss race didn't qualifyed more tosses?
is it out fault?
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On April 19 2007 03:49 Da_PlayerX wrote:
well plexa why on earth the Ultimate Great protoss race didn't qualifyed more tosses?
is it out fault? thats not the point...
the point is, more terran = more tvt, and tvt = boring
at this rate its likely to be a nada/iris final because they are insanely good at tvt...
this is like the time casy won his osl, 99% of games were tvz/tvt, the two mu's that he was good at
this is even worse because its basicly only terran..
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On April 19 2007 03:50 Plexa wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2007 03:49 Da_PlayerX wrote:
well plexa why on earth the Ultimate Great protoss race didn't qualifyed more tosses?
is it out fault? thats not the point... the point is, more terran = more tvt, and tvt = boring lol
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its ok, more terrans for savior to own.
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Well its true that NaDa pretty much says "thank you" for every Terran that makes it in OSL :-)
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On April 19 2007 03:51 YoUr_KiLLeR wrote:
its ok, more terrans for savior to own. if savior gets elim i will be ever so pissed
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i preffer nada vs iris/oov/hwasin/etc/etc/etc than
soOo(or whatever) vs Child(or whatever)
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On April 19 2007 03:53 Da_PlayerX wrote:
i preffer nada vs iris/oov/hwasin/etc/etc/etc than
soOo(or whatever) vs Child(or whatever) i prefer, anytime vs nada, julyzerg vs nada as opposed to hwasin vs nada
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you will have to wait for anytime vs nada
but i want july nada too
lets just finish it ok i understand yr point
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On April 19 2007 03:44 Da_PlayerX wrote:
u cant say hwasin is useless. he is the one who took 2 games from savior in bo5, and won against him in bo1 when nobody couldn't.
so show some respect to players who atually do something
edit: no offence but think about it
Iris took 2 games from Savior like very few days after Hwasin. And Bisu took him down 3-0 just after. And he wasn't the only one who won bo1 against him (Midas did it too)
Yeah, he has a good tvz, but that's about it. It's not exactly spectacular either. And in an osl where there are 2 zerg only, it will be perfectly useless.
I'm looking again at jkilla's thread about gom tv msl. Apart from Savior, Hwasin won against Pusan on a silly map that got edited just after because he abused a place to drop a tank when it wasn't supposed to happen, against Silver who ZvT is considered awful at this level, and Light who had one of the worst TvT last year and said it was his weakness. It's not that amazing imo.
Btw, can any admin edit jkilla article about MSL history? I noticed a few mistakes and posted them a while ago but it seems he didn't see it.
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bifrost > july wtffffffffffffff =(.
an OSL isn't an OSL without july.
anytime better beat the shit out of him again.
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so saaaaaaaaad july lost
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i think this is the first OSL july will miss in the last 3 years?
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So Hwasin advanced ?
And now Bifrost vs AnyTime yes ?
atm 2/3, gogo Bifrost for 3/4 !
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On April 19 2007 04:00 Musli wrote:
So Bifrost and Hwasin advanced ?
nice 3/4 here. not yet... anytime vs justin togo
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no July no fun :-( too sad
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bifrost vs anytime comin on HH
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i am 3/4 and will be 3/4 whoever win this game
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Anytime better own this sucker. If he takes out both July and Anytime I'll never stop hating him and wish to god that NaDa chose him in Ro16 as his Terran punching bag.
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inside korea terran owns,
outside korea zerg and protoss owns..
terran is hard, but good:O
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Bifrost will go MnM just watch.
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Anytime better win, more Terrans is definatly not more fun T_T. Hitchhiker says T will win though :-(.
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Iris just got eliminated... by \\\"ganzai\\\" (?) on MBC..
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On April 19 2007 04:04 AnOth3rDAy wrote:
inside korea terran owns,
outside korea zerg and protoss owns..
terran is hard, but good:O
;; i blame maps atm for terran > all
else id say terr=toss=zerg
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VioleTAK there are two maybe three players i hate.
one of them is DarkElf
the other is shine due to anthipathy
now bifrost too
i hate them all cuz they win games when i expect them to lose!
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Iris beat Ganzi according to GG.net
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On April 19 2007 04:05 Adamthegreat wrote:Iris just got eliminated... by \\\"ganzai\\\" (?) on MBC.. O_O;
nal_keke welcome to msl?
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this is how i see it:
zerg players must be mutitasking masters.
teran players must be perfect executioners.
protos players must be spell casters extraordinaire'.
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damn the new sparkyz uniform is slick as hell
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If even July can't beat a good Terran @ longinus 2, and a 'whatever' Terran @ Arkanoid, Zerg are in deep shit. I might actually cheer for sAviOr this OSL :-)
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Zerg has been in deep shit for long time; savior probably cannot make it through group stage this seaon
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On April 19 2007 04:05 Adamthegreat wrote:Iris just got eliminated... by \\\"ganzai\\\" (?) on MBC..
wtf u talking about?
keke vs iris starting now
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Whats up with Iris? one Terran I actually want to see in both Starleagues...
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Goo Bifrost ! Revenge is coming woohoo !
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On April 19 2007 04:20 VioleTAK wrote:
Anytime is losing
Ugh
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wtf what a shitty OSL lineup. hwasin/bifrost over anytime/july? =((((((((
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yes, welcome back Justin! 3/4
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Bifrost sucks I hate him big time, ugly games. Worst group results in history of ODT :-(
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keke is doing really good vs iris, i think keke will win this!
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who the hell cheers for bifrost lol.
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Well actually 2 nice drops by Iris, good ammount of drones down.
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So next osl will have at least 10 Terrans (since last group has Reach against 3 terrans), at most 3 toss and 3 zergs.
It looks like one of the worst osl in terms of line up, no offense to the players quality but it doesn't look very exciting
I'm really disappointed by ogn. They keeped for ODT maps that already proved to be quite in favor of terrans against everyone else, are they happy now?
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Upcoming OSL will be so fucking boring...
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Iris tries to take min only but Lukers are already there, Keke teching greater spire, 4 running expos, Iris still on 1, main mined out.
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many freshman in osl
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u gotta skate8152 Posts
OSL will be 16 players, would have been awesome if it was balanced like 5P, 5Z, 6T.
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Dropship down, Iris is so dead...
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nal keke looks like very relax
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Is keke vs iris the winners game or the final winner/loser vs loser/winner game?
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On April 19 2007 04:11 exihea wrote:
Zerg has been in deep shit for long time; savior probably cannot make it through group stage this seaon he will
because they will change the maps for OSL''
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rofl this is the second time keke has dealt to iris on RLT;;
keke is quality!
and yay@ anytime losing
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On April 19 2007 04:30 ~chut~ wrote:So next osl will have at least 10 Terrans (since last group has Reach against 3 terrans), at most 3 toss and 3 zergs. It looks like one of the worst osl in terms of line up, no offense to the players quality but it doesn't look very exciting I'm really disappointed by ogn. They keeped for ODT maps that already proved to be quite in favor of terrans against everyone else, are they happy now? its always been this way...
OSL maps are kept for the following PSL + ODT then new maps are announced for OSL
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so the results are keke/stork and bifrost/hwasin correct?
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On April 19 2007 04:39 PuertoRican wrote:
so the results are keke/stork and bifrost/hwasin correct?
yes :/
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wow, i'm like 5/12 today...
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On April 19 2007 04:46 BeaTeR wrote:
wow, i'm like 5/12 today...
thats weird since 8 points were todays max.
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ugh i voted all terran in MSL and mostly for terran in OSL. 4/12
next OSL is gonna suck with all those terrans.
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More Terrans, less Zergs -> Greater chance for Reach to do well. Really sucks seeing both Anytime and July get eliminated though. Light and Oov qualifying is good because we'll see if Reachs PvT still can keep up with the best TvPers Changes in maps needs to happen.
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I picked everyone I thought would lose and shot up ~100 liquibet ranks
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On April 19 2007 10:54 ApollyoN wrote:I picked everyone I thought would lose and shot up ~100 liquibet ranks
Where's the fun in that?
I bet it felt sick!!
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It would still be fun if bisu/savior slay terrains all the way up to the final
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nice work ogn..nice work..
yeah...i will blame the maps...or the game is not balanced?
t_t
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