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Cryoc
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany913 Posts
November 30 2015 22:20 GMT
#121
Is it really so hard to check things yourself in game if you are not sure about them and spare us of embarrassing comments like the above? I usually don't comment on commentaries but reading such wrong basic stuff being put out there so confidently is pretty agitating. Nothing can damage stasised units.
http://www.twitch.tv/cryoc
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8696 Posts
November 30 2015 22:30 GMT
#122
On December 01 2015 06:44 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2015 03:03 remag wrote:
Well spreading allot of misinformation, casters please. This time matching box science vessel isnt possible. Last time it was storming stasised tanks.

Magic box is a term of expression where you arrange your casters in a formation so you can cast your abilities in a uniform manner. If I go off that information it's okay to use. And I fail to see why saying storm stasised tanks is a bad thing. Storm does damage through stasis fields. I do apologize though if I do say anything wrong, but in my defense I'm just happy to be coherent at 4am.


I don't think it comes over as spreading missinformation about mechanics. I was fine with the examples he placed, so don't worry so much about it. What pains me more is when you try to come up with a reason for why a player is doing a certain thing in a certain situation. Often you end up with the wrong reason or say that it doesn't make sense while it obviously does. Although I have to admit that xkcd often corrects this or comes up with the right idea. I don't know how to fix this though because I know it's a lot harder to do if the game goes on, you have to keep talking and imediately have to come up with the right idea.

Another tip I want to give you: Pay more attention to the mini map. A lot of things can be noticed there that are being missed otherwise. Sometimes you make statements where I'm asking myself whether we are watching the same game or not, if I take a look at the mini map. Although I can understand if you aren't able to do this at 4 am. Personally I wouldn't be able to form one coherent sentence.^^

This is directed at both of you. I hope this helps and isn't taken as an insult. Keep going! I'm glad you guys are giving us an english cast!
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19372 Posts
November 30 2015 23:00 GMT
#123
On December 01 2015 07:20 remag wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2015 06:44 BisuDagger wrote:
On December 01 2015 03:03 remag wrote:
Well spreading allot of misinformation, casters please. This time matching box science vessel isnt possible. Last time it was storming stasised tanks.

Magic box is a term of expression where you arrange your casters in a formation so you can cast your abilities in a uniform manner. If I go off that information it's okay to use. And I fail to see why saying storm stasised tanks is a bad thing. Storm does damage through stasis fields. I do apologize though if I do say anything wrong, but in my defense I'm just happy to be coherent at 4am.

Because u cant magic box science vessel, irradiate has to be clicked individually. The irradiate where simultationisly because the spell was casted earlier when the vessels have been in the buttom left side of the map, they just arrived at the same time. And Storming statsised tanks is bad, because it doesnt work, it doenst do any dmg. The only reason why guemchi did it (i think it was the guemchi game on circut breaker) was because he anticipated the duration of the statis the be much shorter.

1. I understand you can't actually magic box with vessels. I was using it as an expression in the moment. I was attempting to explain how I was using the term loosely for what I was commenting on. I'm sorry I didn't have a better term to describe that he just irradiated very efficiently. I'll make note of it in the future.

2.
On December 01 2015 07:20 Cryoc wrote:
Is it really so hard to check things yourself in game if you are not sure about them and spare us of embarrassing comments like the above? I usually don't comment on commentaries but reading such wrong basic stuff being put out there so confidently is pretty agitating. Nothing can damage stasised units.

I've said this countless without anyone correcting me and it was handed down knowledge. I honestly thought it was a thing because no one said otherwise. Mistakes happen.

On December 01 2015 07:30 Miragee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2015 06:44 BisuDagger wrote:
On December 01 2015 03:03 remag wrote:
Well spreading allot of misinformation, casters please. This time matching box science vessel isnt possible. Last time it was storming stasised tanks.

Magic box is a term of expression where you arrange your casters in a formation so you can cast your abilities in a uniform manner. If I go off that information it's okay to use. And I fail to see why saying storm stasised tanks is a bad thing. Storm does damage through stasis fields. I do apologize though if I do say anything wrong, but in my defense I'm just happy to be coherent at 4am.


I don't think it comes over as spreading missinformation about mechanics. I was fine with the examples he placed, so don't worry so much about it. What pains me more is when you try to come up with a reason for why a player is doing a certain thing in a certain situation. Often you end up with the wrong reason or say that it doesn't make sense while it obviously does. Although I have to admit that xkcd often corrects this or comes up with the right idea. I don't know how to fix this though because I know it's a lot harder to do if the game goes on, you have to keep talking and imediately have to come up with the right idea.

Another tip I want to give you: Pay more attention to the mini map. A lot of things can be noticed there that are being missed otherwise. Sometimes you make statements where I'm asking myself whether we are watching the same game or not, if I take a look at the mini map. Although I can understand if you aren't able to do this at 4 am. Personally I wouldn't be able to form one coherent sentence.^^

This is directed at both of you. I hope this helps and isn't taken as an insult. Keep going! I'm glad you guys are giving us an english cast!

@ miragee, a lot of the times I say things a certain way in that I'm trying to make xkcd, or any of my CoCasters, think about what I said and form reasons why something might makes sense to the player in game. I get that what I say may be annoying if it comes off wrong often, but it's one of the ways I actually get AmazingXKCD's brain going during our casts lol. I like to say stuff that is off so we can discuss and come to a voice of reason over the next minute or so. And to be honest, if I know I'm deliberately saying things wrong in a cast, that I won't feel so bad when I actually make mistakes. However, I want to try casting differently this Thursday if you can watch and notice a difference. I will cast very directly and say things that make sense right away. It will be much more calculated. Let me know if you can tell the difference and find new rooms for improvement.

As far as the minimap stuff is concerned, sometimes I miss stuff cause I'm caught up in talking and sometimes I miss stuff cause I try and do things that help wake me up while XKCD is casting cause sometimes I'm terribly tired lol. I'll be more attentive this Thursday of the minimap too.



Thank you guys for your critiques. I am never too embarrassed or ashamed to admit my mistakes. I'll show you a much improved cast going forward and thank you for watching.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8696 Posts
November 30 2015 23:07 GMT
#124
I have exams on thursday so I doubt I will be able to watch. However, I will try to get on the VoDs if there will be some.
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19372 Posts
November 30 2015 23:09 GMT
#125
On December 01 2015 08:07 Miragee wrote:
I have exams on thursday so I doubt I will be able to watch. However, I will try to get on the VoDs if there will be some.

They reside in the live archive. http://afreeca.tv/36846806
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
xccam
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Great Britain1151 Posts
November 30 2015 23:20 GMT
#126
1. I understand you can't actually magic box with vessels. I was using it as an expression in the moment. I was attempting to explain how I was using the term loosely for what I was commenting on. I'm sorry I didn't have a better term to describe that he just irradiated very efficiently. I'll make note of it in the future.


Its usually cloning, same with splitting scourge to efficiently hit vessels etc.
dr0pship
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada520 Posts
December 01 2015 07:08 GMT
#127
just came to show my support for bisudagger and xkcd and their great casts! dont let a few nitpickers discourage you =)

atrox_
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom1711 Posts
December 02 2015 12:49 GMT
#128
did you get any further forward with youtube vods?
HyralGambit
Profile Joined February 2014
2439 Posts
December 02 2015 18:01 GMT
#129
Posted the mine gfycat on reddit:

https://redd.it/3v6547

Plus a 16 hours heads up post for Day 3.
Passion overcomes corporate stupidity: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jX9hbbA-WP4#t=4h2m
AmatistA
Profile Joined November 2012
Germany113 Posts
December 02 2015 21:42 GMT
#130
sad Mind
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This little bastard is Sieges addicted! cause I love the sound of the siege tank mode so you don't ? hear and feel my favorite sound ... didn't you hear? you realize that you have no units anymore!!!!
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