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Aotearoa39261 Posts
On July 15 2006 13:00 Orome wrote:
"His zvz and zvt are pretty solid."
What? He's probably the best ZvT in the world right now, at the very least top 3, and he's the only one, who can actually beat Chojja ZvZ. And did you see him devour Reach? In my opinion there is little doubt he's the #1 Zerg at the moment.
you did not just say that :O!
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Oh yes I did! :o
What's wrong with it?
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HnR)hT
United States3468 Posts
On July 15 2006 08:52 Jathin wrote:
rA has no chance. But I'd be happy if he wins.
Yes he does. It's just less than 50%. Considering the maps though, this one is harder to predict than Chojja vs Casy imo.
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
On July 15 2006 13:20 Orome wrote:
Oh yes I did! :o
What's wrong with it?
Not according to KeSPA =O~ or a certain someone amongst us
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A certain semeone named Tfeign? 
Am I starting to sound like him? I still don't get why my post was so horrible :S
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thedeadhaji
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2x 815 will certainly help ra?
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I've seen games with ra playing on 815, he doesn't play it like the other tosses at all :x. 9/10 gate using a pylon from higher ground and into reaver/sair, takes island and harasses. damn risky and aggressive, I hope he changes that up.
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On July 15 2006 12:44 Drowsy wrote:
Obviously his zvz and zvt are pretty solid
lol?
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
On July 15 2006 13:57 Orome wrote:A certain semeone named Tfeign? Am I starting to sound like him? I still don't get why my post was so horrible :S
haha hide before he sees that post !
anyway
i think chojja > savior, but
saviors zvt > chojja zvt
chojja zvp > saviors zvp
chojja zvz > saviors zvz
that being said, imho
savior is the king of zvt, chojja is the king of zvz and julyzerg is the king of zvp
that could change after tonight though
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imo chojja isn't better than ipxzerg, but anyway, savior ZvP is quite good if he beat reach 3-0, but then again let's see what nal_ra got ready for his ass
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On July 15 2006 13:00 Orome wrote:
"His zvz and zvt are pretty solid."
What? He's probably the best ZvT in the world right now, at the very least top 3, and he's the only one, who can actually beat Chojja ZvZ. And did you see him devour Reach? In my opinion there is little doubt he's the #1 Zerg at the moment.
Beating Reach ZvP isn't exactly a grand spectacle, even if it happened 2 or 3 years ago it would be considered "normal".
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
haha it just comes to personal opinions then oddye 
after julyzerg raped ra last night, i wonder what effect that will be having on this game?
it was on arcadia so...
does ra have something up his sleeve?
will savior be taking the game less heavily?
is savior more relaxed about the series now?
did that game send pvz nightmares onto ra?
ooo the tension!
11 hours left people!
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On July 15 2006 14:35 Plexa wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2006 13:57 Orome wrote:A certain semeone named Tfeign? Am I starting to sound like him? I still don't get why my post was so horrible :S haha hide before he sees that post ! anyway i think chojja > savior, but saviors zvt > chojja zvt chojja zvp > saviors zvp chojja zvz > saviors zvz that being said, imho savior is the king of zvt, chojja is the king of zvz and julyzerg is the king of zvp that could change after tonight though
I'd say
zvt Savior > Chojja
zvp Savior > Chojja (I might be biased, because I hate Chojja's zvp style, but the dominance in Savior's zvp games is incredible.)
zvz Savior =< Chojja (their record is about equal I think, Chojja won the msl winner bracket final and msl final, Savior won this msl)
but I haven't got any stats to back my argument up, and I agree you can have a different view on this. I really hope we'll see 5 games tomorrow.
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July's ZvP is Best
Savior's ZvT is Best
Chojja's ZvZ is Best (Although he is the best "survivor" zerg IMO)
I AM RIGHT U R WRONG OK?
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Sorry. Orome was right imo. Savior IS the best zerg ATM.
His ZvP is as good as July's and currently, it is better. July's last tourney, OSL, showed a very unimpressive go at it. Losing to ppl like Rainbow and Rock...
Savior's ZvT is.... .... it's his MU that made him famous, come on. Of course he's sick at it.
ZvZ is ZvZ, and he has a 50%+ so that makes him awesome.
His ZvT and ZvP are somewhere really close to 80% for MSL...
Yes you heard me... 80%.
NO ONE touches that. Even Ra...
So sorry sun god, but Maestro's symphony > Flower Fields and Dreams.
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well nal_ra did manage to beat savior 2-1 from a qualifer if I remember correctly ;O
But don't forget, savior is pretty new, give him some time to adjust his position as a top ranking zerg player, once his number of games become comparable to the older players, then we can discriminate.
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Sweden33723 Posts
On July 15 2006 11:50 Plexa wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2006 11:42 red.venom wrote:
This will be the most exciting final in a long while. I hope Ra wins just so a final finally goes against T>Z>P. ; [ Particularly the Z>P part, which I dont think has happened in like years. The last bo5 pvz went 3-0 i think... it was either pusan/july or reach/savior truely depressing.... if its 3-0 tonight... then well.. i hope someone learns how o make balanced pvz maps 
Wasn't reach/savior 1-3?
Anyway, yeah, so map dependant o,o Last time a P beat a Z in a final tho, was Garimto vs Skelton (and last game wasn't even PvZ, like PvR I think).
3-0.
Then July beat reach 3-1 and savior beat reach 3-1, been no other PvZ finals (at least not Bo5).
Hm, in semi finals/3rd place games tho.. Reach 3-2 chojja (went on to lose 1-3 to ipx/savior), reach 3-2 yellow (went on to beat boxer 3-1), reach 3-2 yellow (finished 3rd, behind oov and boxer), nal_ra 3-1 jju (went on to win 3-1 vs ZeuS I think), kingdom 3-0 junwi (went on to beat nal_ra 3-1).
Hm, July 3-0 pusan is the only Z>P semi-final I can think of, but I've probably forgotten a few (although it's not impossible that this is correct, because when the maps are bad, tosses tend to die before semis, when they are good, they tend to win).
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So sorry sun god, but Maestro's symphony > Flower Fields and Dreams.
love the quote.
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Im planning to attend this Final. Where is it going to be held?
Thx in advance
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I really like Ra's playing style, especially his creativity in PvP. But I'm a bit new to the pro sc scene, so I don't have any authority to say how tommorow will turn out...
But I trust that Ra will put up a good fight, and hopefully he'll pull ahead. Like some guy in this forum said, ZvP is homo, PvZ is art.
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