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thezanursic
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JohnChoi
1773 Posts
On November 02 2012 03:14 thezanursic wrote: Chrisolo I joined Sun Kan you can remove me from the free agent list. I also suggest that if anyone is interesting in joining Sun Kan he should contact Pebble and join our skype group. Pebble is pretty active on Skype so it's not hard to get a hold of him. werent we still waiting for the draft? | ||
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JohnChoi
1773 Posts
Tau cross chain reaction ground zero longinus gladiator match point edit: i editted my maps from the first time i posted | ||
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Kal_rA
United States2925 Posts
This. Ace said theyre willing to pick me up but are waiting for their turn in the draft. If we can just skip the draft though........ Whats the status on the draft anyways? | ||
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JohnChoi
1773 Posts
On November 02 2012 06:33 Kal_rA wrote: This. Ace said theyre willing to pick me up but are waiting for their turn in the draft. If we can just skip the draft though........ Whats the status on the draft anyways? chris said we wait for team manner hatch to draft until 10pm pdt today. if they dont respond we just skip and chris said he might have to form a team with free agents or something. | ||
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pebble444
Italy2497 Posts
On November 02 2012 06:33 Kal_rA wrote: This. Ace said theyre willing to pick me up but are waiting for their turn in the draft. If we can just skip the draft though........ Whats the status on the draft anyways? I anticipated that Manner hatch would not pick anybody because they don t seem active atm. I posted a couple of pages back esplicity stating that. The rules of the draft where set. You can' t just change them. Anyway i needed a couple more players so now that Sun Kan has 6 we should be good to go. | ||
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pebble444
Italy2497 Posts
On November 02 2012 07:32 JohnChoi wrote: chris said we wait for team manner hatch to draft until 10pm pdt today. if they dont respond we just skip and chris said he might have to form a team with free agents or something. Edit: adding the draft post here: + Show Spoiler + On October 26 2012 17:47 chrisolo wrote: Okay since we now have enough teams for this league (eight), I will open up the draft again. The drafting will be round-based. Since there are teams with more then enough players, they will be choosing last (or even excluded from drafting). The drafting order will be: 1) Sun Kan (Z or T) 2) Sun Kan (Z or T, based on your previous decission) 3) Team Manner Hatch (any) 4) Sun Kan (any) 5) Sun Kan (any) At this point every team has at least 6 players. After this drafting (if there are still free agents left) the drafting order will be: 1) Team Manner Hatch (any) / 1) Team Airforce ACE of Spades for Z / 1) TAKK for P (since me aka BaD]Seed will not play too often probably) 2) Sun Kan (any) 3) DeSPA (for T or Z) / 2) Courage (for Z) 4) Stealth Bunnies (any, preferably for Z) 5) NW Power (any, but since you guys come from a community and have the biggest lineup, please refrain from drafting. Thank you very much) If there is a fight over a free agent, I will make a decision. Please state this in this thread. Free agents list following ( sluggaslamoo  D+,  v  awerti DKal_rA / mmahirr D+ D9heart DKaiGreene DvonKlaust II DSynC[gm] D+, v Phailol / sGs.Exy D- JohnChoi D If there are no players left, which you should draft following the races from the top, you can choose any. Please state this in this thread. I will look into this case and see if I allow this (for balancing purposes). If this is the case, stop the drafting, until I decide. To draft a player please state it in this thread in post (Team Sun Kan can use their first two drafts in a single post). Please refrain from drafting too much too good players, so we have a fun balanced league. If you draft too strong, I will need to reform teams, which I prefer not to. | ||
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JohnChoi
1773 Posts
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KazeHydra
Japan2788 Posts
On November 02 2012 02:02 chrisolo wrote: I will need to think about this issue. Since there are enough free agents, we could make another team, but I need to think about it. I will tell you tommorow around 09:00 GMT (+00:00) to 11:00 GMT (+00:00). I suggest the dropping of Team Manner Hatch and the formation of a new team to replace them. The fact that not a single player has responded in this thread regarding the draft in what has been about a week suggests they have no interest in playing anymore. Even if they do appear sometime in the next week to play, the lack of responsibility on both the captain's and team members' part to follow this thread is worrisome for any future issues that may arise, or just showing up to play on time at all. | ||
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SynC[gm]
United States3127 Posts
If not, then well, I'd be a great addition to anyone's team, as I am quite active in team/clan activity and I won't mind taking my time out of my day/life to help out others or help get organized for the team games. iCCup username is RedAxis, or Modesty(OD). Edit: Put links to both iCCup accounts. Please note that my C- rank came from 10 seasons ago, which I think was roughly about a year or so, and I haven't really played much since about 3 weeks ago. | ||
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JohnChoi
1773 Posts
On November 02 2012 08:54 KazeHydra wrote: I suggest the dropping of Team Manner Hatch and the formation of a new team to replace them. The fact that not a single player has responded in this thread regarding the draft in what has been about a week suggests they have no interest in playing anymore. Even if they do appear sometime in the next week to play, the lack of responsibility on both the captain's and team members' part to follow this thread is worrisome for any future issues that may arise, or just showing up to play on time at all. i think kaze makes an extremely good point! | ||
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Sentenal
United States12398 Posts
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pebble444
Italy2497 Posts
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JohnChoi
1773 Posts
On November 02 2012 09:23 SynC[gm] wrote: Just putting this out there, if in fact Team Manner Hatch is dropped, I'm willing to step in as a team captain, maybe just take the leftover free agents and be a team ourselves. Even though I don't post much on this thread, or even in this entire site, I always look over TeamLiquid's Brood War section very often and lurk. If not, then well, I'd be a great addition to anyone's team, as I am quite active in team/clan activity and I won't mind taking my time out of my day/life to help out others or help get organized for the team games. iCCup username is RedAxis, or Modesty(OD). [I'd put a link to both profiles, but the iCCup website is down right now...] I'm with sync on this one he sounds like he'd be a good team captain. | ||
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Jealous
10196 Posts
iCCup Gladiator iCCup Heartbreak Ridge iCCup Match Point iCCup Neo Medusa iCCup Tau Cross These are the 6 maps I'd veto. To add to what chrisolo said earlier, I think that people have the wrong impression of what a league should be... Of course it's nice to have a pure democracy but without a president nothing will get done because there will be division on every issue. I feel like chrisolo has already given so much control over the league to the players, having a few core rules is essential to the successful running of the league. If you don't like something, then don't play - it's very simple imo. Want to use this opportunity to thank chrisolo for running the league despite even such premature difficulties. I think you're doing a great job and I hope that you don't let these frustrations get to you. There will be difficulty in every endeavor that is so liberal as your approach so I want to say thank you for being so conscious of the players' desires. I can't wait for this to start! So happy to have a full team ^^ Pucca you're still banned from telling me I don't know what I'm doing though, that doesn't change just because we are on the same team now =_= | ||
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chrisolo
Germany2608 Posts
But this red bolded Statement I wrote, does not mean you cannot state issues with the league. Improvement can only be done by feedback. I meant it more like "if I say it stays like this, please do not try to convince me any further". It might seem harsh, but this is the state of the art. I am definitly not banning anyone from this league because he gives feedback, unless he causes unneccassary drama (f.e. the ban from Eywa- in DRTL Season 1 (or 2? not sure about it)). If you can remember, this was pretty much useless delay and discussion. I do not intend to ban anyone and I do not think I will need to. Also I do not know how this comes into this topic. I am sorry if you thought this might actually happen. This league is for you and not for organizing things, thus I need you  So TL;DR: Just state your feedback openly, but if I say that it stays like it is, please refrain from further convincing me. And NO ONE WILL BE BANNED. lol. @Team Manner Hatch Issue: Dunno if I will be back by 09:00 GMT (+00:00), but I will definitly take a decission today. And probably around this time. Please be patient. | ||
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KazeHydra
Japan2788 Posts
On November 02 2012 15:09 chrisolo wrote: Yes Othello got voted down by some people, but even if they are 10 it is still only ~1/6 of the total playerbase. Since you're set on keeping Othello, I won't argue against it. However, I'd like to point out this is really bad logic. Only what? Like 12 people posted their vetoes? So really 10/12 don't want Othello, or whatever the actual numbers are. You can't say anyone who hasn't listed their vetoes are okay with it. Maybe you can argue that the other ~50 people do not care enough to vote therefore it's okay, but you can make the same argument for the reverse. When polling, you have no choice but to assume the available sample of votes is an accurate representation of the population or else the poll is meaningless. Again, won't argue about Othello but something to keep in mind for future voting. | ||
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thezanursic
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JohnChoi
1773 Posts
On November 02 2012 15:09 chrisolo wrote: I really do not want to get in trouble with you guys, I know that there might be things that seem wrong to you. Maybe they are even wrong. But it is the case that I need to see the whole league and the whole playerbase. Yes Othello got voted down by some people, but even if they are 10 it is still only ~1/6 of the total playerbase. I just choosed three out of four non-removeable maps by random (I only picked FS, since it is the most balanced and most liked map), so it would not be too unfair, if I just picked some by my likes. Ye it might be that Othello isn't 100% balanced, but it is better then for example Battle Royal or something. In my oppinion the mapbalance does not affect D Rank play as much as higher level play. Most "imba" stuff results much more from bad play then from real imbaness. But this red bolded Statement I wrote, does not mean you cannot state issues with the league. Improvement can only be done by feedback. I meant it more like "if I say it stays like this, please do not try to convince me any further". It might seem harsh, but this is the state of the art. I am definitly not banning anyone from this league because he gives feedback, unless he causes unneccassary drama (f.e. the ban from Eywa- in DRTL Season 1 (or 2? not sure about it)). If you can remember, this was pretty much useless delay and discussion. I do not intend to ban anyone and I do not think I will need to. Also I do not know how this comes into this topic. I am sorry if you thought this might actually happen. This league is for you and not for organizing things, thus I need you So TL;DR: Just state your feedback openly, but if I say that it stays like it is, please refrain from further convincing me. And NO ONE WILL BE BANNED. lol. @Team Manner Hatch Issue: Dunno if I will be back by 09:00 GMT (+00:00), but I will definitly take a decission today. And probably around this time. Please be patient. i think the thing with internet polls/votes is those who are passionately for it or against it are inclined to vote and those who are pretty much indifferent just wont care as much. it could also be that a majority of the player base doesnt know all the maps and are not confident in voting down maps? also the liquipedia all kill format says all kill formats usually have a set map pool  but i understand your intentions for having a large map pool. also thx for all the effort you are putting into this league haha. i hope everything runs smoothly :D | ||
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chrisolo
Germany2608 Posts
Since Team Manner Hatch is not responding. I will kick them out. SynC[gm] will take over in drafting another team. Sun Kan can now draft the two additional people (which they already announced). And this is the list of free agents SynC[gm] can choos five more people from. Free agents list following ( sluggaslamoo D+, v awerti DKal_rA / mmahirr D+ D9heart DKaiGreene DvonKlaust II DSynC[gm] D+, v Phailol / sGs.Exy D- JohnChoi D After SynC[gm] choosed five guys from it (please try to draft every race), I will announce the new draft list. Sorry again for the delay, but I just could not get in front of a computer until now. | ||
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