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dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
September 02 2012 17:23 GMT
#441
On September 03 2012 02:08 Game wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2012 02:00 Eywa- wrote:
Due to the server being closed for two hours, LRM vs CN will be rescheduled.

I'd like to point out that China is lying about this issue. Not only did they PM me requesting a PP, not only did we have to show up 2 hours earlier to accomodate their playing time, not only do all but 1 of their players have an iccup account with gaming history, but they're using this small deterrence as a means to give LRM) an astronomical disadvantage. We've been almost kicked out of iCCupCL because we don't have enough players that can show on Saturday's at 17CET. Saturday is clearly a bad day for us. If we have to play them again next week at a 2 hour earlier time slot to again, accomodate them, then half of our players leave from being tired or ragequit because they lost. Thus, our next CW at 19CET, that we'd have to play 2 large, hard opponent CWs in one day (maybe you don't understand how difficult that is as a player) is simply unfair to our team, and again poses an astronomical disadvantage. If we have to play during a weekday - this is obviously a ridiculous solution. There is no good compromise here that doesn't absolutely destroy LRM)'s chances at winning the league, which would defeat the purpose of us playing in it. ALL because China decided to lie about their issue with iCCup when there was problems with Fish.

What I'm implying here is not only that a PP will severely hurt LRM)'s chances at winning the CW, but the league, and that accomodating China is not ideal for the league. Every single thing that has to be done regarding them effects the players in the foreign community that have already played in this league for 2 seasons. More importantly, they weren't even a part of the foreign community, and still aren't before Gambit's Cup Season 3. You should know best after dealing with their severely flawed logic of "if no good for China, no good." from Nation Wars.

tl;dr This is bullshit.

typical lrm trying to take wo, just play them on reschedule its only one CW and taking WO is bad form for these inactive days when we don't have enough content. If China can't accommodate for later then penalize them, but since everyone already agreed pre league we'd allow CN to play with their time difference and potential lag issues, rescheduling was inevitable...
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6740 Posts
September 02 2012 17:25 GMT
#442
they also killed 3S from iccup clan league after reps save their team ...
Game
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3191 Posts
September 02 2012 17:26 GMT
#443
On September 03 2012 02:23 dRaW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2012 02:08 Game wrote:
On September 03 2012 02:00 Eywa- wrote:
Due to the server being closed for two hours, LRM vs CN will be rescheduled.

I'd like to point out that China is lying about this issue. Not only did they PM me requesting a PP, not only did we have to show up 2 hours earlier to accomodate their playing time, not only do all but 1 of their players have an iccup account with gaming history, but they're using this small deterrence as a means to give LRM) an astronomical disadvantage. We've been almost kicked out of iCCupCL because we don't have enough players that can show on Saturday's at 17CET. Saturday is clearly a bad day for us. If we have to play them again next week at a 2 hour earlier time slot to again, accomodate them, then half of our players leave from being tired or ragequit because they lost. Thus, our next CW at 19CET, that we'd have to play 2 large, hard opponent CWs in one day (maybe you don't understand how difficult that is as a player) is simply unfair to our team, and again poses an astronomical disadvantage. If we have to play during a weekday - this is obviously a ridiculous solution. There is no good compromise here that doesn't absolutely destroy LRM)'s chances at winning the league, which would defeat the purpose of us playing in it. ALL because China decided to lie about their issue with iCCup when there was problems with Fish.

What I'm implying here is not only that a PP will severely hurt LRM)'s chances at winning the CW, but the league, and that accomodating China is not ideal for the league. Every single thing that has to be done regarding them effects the players in the foreign community that have already played in this league for 2 seasons. More importantly, they weren't even a part of the foreign community, and still aren't before Gambit's Cup Season 3. You should know best after dealing with their severely flawed logic of "if no good for China, no good." from Nation Wars.

tl;dr This is bullshit.

typical lrm trying to take wo, just play them on reschedule its only one CW and taking WO is bad form for these inactive days when we don't have enough content. If China can't accommodate for later then penalize them, but since everyone already agreed pre league we'd allow CN to play with their time difference and potential lag issues, rescheduling was inevitable...

We're not requesting a W.O, do you see ANYTHING in what I wrote about a W.O? I think not, you're just a pompous dick. I'm pointing out that China is absolutely lying, and I offer proof in the previous post to back it up. I guess proof isn't indicative of truth in Canadia.
SC is like sex. You should play often, but never too hard. And you should only try hard when it matters.
Sinedd
Profile Joined July 2008
Poland7052 Posts
September 02 2012 17:29 GMT
#444
why so much drama..

I like it sometimes but geez..

u are hurting esports !!!
T H C makes ppl happy
dOTY
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany483 Posts
September 02 2012 17:31 GMT
#445
It’s cool to cry, don’t ever question your strength .
dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
September 02 2012 17:33 GMT
#446
On September 03 2012 02:26 Game wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2012 02:23 dRaW wrote:
On September 03 2012 02:08 Game wrote:
On September 03 2012 02:00 Eywa- wrote:
Due to the server being closed for two hours, LRM vs CN will be rescheduled.

I'd like to point out that China is lying about this issue. Not only did they PM me requesting a PP, not only did we have to show up 2 hours earlier to accomodate their playing time, not only do all but 1 of their players have an iccup account with gaming history, but they're using this small deterrence as a means to give LRM) an astronomical disadvantage. We've been almost kicked out of iCCupCL because we don't have enough players that can show on Saturday's at 17CET. Saturday is clearly a bad day for us. If we have to play them again next week at a 2 hour earlier time slot to again, accomodate them, then half of our players leave from being tired or ragequit because they lost. Thus, our next CW at 19CET, that we'd have to play 2 large, hard opponent CWs in one day (maybe you don't understand how difficult that is as a player) is simply unfair to our team, and again poses an astronomical disadvantage. If we have to play during a weekday - this is obviously a ridiculous solution. There is no good compromise here that doesn't absolutely destroy LRM)'s chances at winning the league, which would defeat the purpose of us playing in it. ALL because China decided to lie about their issue with iCCup when there was problems with Fish.

What I'm implying here is not only that a PP will severely hurt LRM)'s chances at winning the CW, but the league, and that accomodating China is not ideal for the league. Every single thing that has to be done regarding them effects the players in the foreign community that have already played in this league for 2 seasons. More importantly, they weren't even a part of the foreign community, and still aren't before Gambit's Cup Season 3. You should know best after dealing with their severely flawed logic of "if no good for China, no good." from Nation Wars.

tl;dr This is bullshit.

typical lrm trying to take wo, just play them on reschedule its only one CW and taking WO is bad form for these inactive days when we don't have enough content. If China can't accommodate for later then penalize them, but since everyone already agreed pre league we'd allow CN to play with their time difference and potential lag issues, rescheduling was inevitable...

We're not requesting a W.O, do you see ANYTHING in what I wrote about a W.O? I think not, you're just a pompous dick. I'm pointing out that China is absolutely lying, and I offer proof in the previous post to back it up. I guess proof isn't indicative of truth in Canadia.


Its clearly implied by the pages of QQ. You are calling him a liar to his face without knowing all the facts. Maybe there are CN players who can log into iccup and maybe his line up for today consists of players who can't. You are quick to make bold accusations without real evidence but since I'm not the CN advisor I will not reply in the thread anymore for now about the matter.
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6740 Posts
September 02 2012 17:35 GMT
#447
Plz for futures cw add maps order
Game
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3191 Posts
September 02 2012 17:38 GMT
#448
On September 03 2012 02:33 dRaW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2012 02:26 Game wrote:
On September 03 2012 02:23 dRaW wrote:
On September 03 2012 02:08 Game wrote:
On September 03 2012 02:00 Eywa- wrote:
Due to the server being closed for two hours, LRM vs CN will be rescheduled.

I'd like to point out that China is lying about this issue. Not only did they PM me requesting a PP, not only did we have to show up 2 hours earlier to accomodate their playing time, not only do all but 1 of their players have an iccup account with gaming history, but they're using this small deterrence as a means to give LRM) an astronomical disadvantage. We've been almost kicked out of iCCupCL because we don't have enough players that can show on Saturday's at 17CET. Saturday is clearly a bad day for us. If we have to play them again next week at a 2 hour earlier time slot to again, accomodate them, then half of our players leave from being tired or ragequit because they lost. Thus, our next CW at 19CET, that we'd have to play 2 large, hard opponent CWs in one day (maybe you don't understand how difficult that is as a player) is simply unfair to our team, and again poses an astronomical disadvantage. If we have to play during a weekday - this is obviously a ridiculous solution. There is no good compromise here that doesn't absolutely destroy LRM)'s chances at winning the league, which would defeat the purpose of us playing in it. ALL because China decided to lie about their issue with iCCup when there was problems with Fish.

What I'm implying here is not only that a PP will severely hurt LRM)'s chances at winning the CW, but the league, and that accomodating China is not ideal for the league. Every single thing that has to be done regarding them effects the players in the foreign community that have already played in this league for 2 seasons. More importantly, they weren't even a part of the foreign community, and still aren't before Gambit's Cup Season 3. You should know best after dealing with their severely flawed logic of "if no good for China, no good." from Nation Wars.

tl;dr This is bullshit.

typical lrm trying to take wo, just play them on reschedule its only one CW and taking WO is bad form for these inactive days when we don't have enough content. If China can't accommodate for later then penalize them, but since everyone already agreed pre league we'd allow CN to play with their time difference and potential lag issues, rescheduling was inevitable...

We're not requesting a W.O, do you see ANYTHING in what I wrote about a W.O? I think not, you're just a pompous dick. I'm pointing out that China is absolutely lying, and I offer proof in the previous post to back it up. I guess proof isn't indicative of truth in Canadia.


Its clearly implied by the pages of QQ. You are calling him a liar to his face without knowing all the facts. Maybe there are CN players who can log into iccup and maybe his line up for today consists of players who can't. You are quick to make bold accusations without real evidence but since I'm not the CN advisor I will not reply in the thread anymore for now about the matter.

Maybe I'm not good at math. A bold statement:
CW takes 4 players
1 player has an account without iCCup history
10 players on roster

And it's not clearly implied. I suggested a solution privately to Eywa, sorry that you're so quick to assume. Oh wait, you're accusing me of being too quick to assume. Ah, it's all too much.
SC is like sex. You should play often, but never too hard. And you should only try hard when it matters.
Shotcoder
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2316 Posts
September 02 2012 18:01 GMT
#449
On September 03 2012 02:38 Game wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2012 02:33 dRaW wrote:
On September 03 2012 02:26 Game wrote:
On September 03 2012 02:23 dRaW wrote:
On September 03 2012 02:08 Game wrote:
On September 03 2012 02:00 Eywa- wrote:
Due to the server being closed for two hours, LRM vs CN will be rescheduled.

I'd like to point out that China is lying about this issue. Not only did they PM me requesting a PP, not only did we have to show up 2 hours earlier to accomodate their playing time, not only do all but 1 of their players have an iccup account with gaming history, but they're using this small deterrence as a means to give LRM) an astronomical disadvantage. We've been almost kicked out of iCCupCL because we don't have enough players that can show on Saturday's at 17CET. Saturday is clearly a bad day for us. If we have to play them again next week at a 2 hour earlier time slot to again, accomodate them, then half of our players leave from being tired or ragequit because they lost. Thus, our next CW at 19CET, that we'd have to play 2 large, hard opponent CWs in one day (maybe you don't understand how difficult that is as a player) is simply unfair to our team, and again poses an astronomical disadvantage. If we have to play during a weekday - this is obviously a ridiculous solution. There is no good compromise here that doesn't absolutely destroy LRM)'s chances at winning the league, which would defeat the purpose of us playing in it. ALL because China decided to lie about their issue with iCCup when there was problems with Fish.

What I'm implying here is not only that a PP will severely hurt LRM)'s chances at winning the CW, but the league, and that accomodating China is not ideal for the league. Every single thing that has to be done regarding them effects the players in the foreign community that have already played in this league for 2 seasons. More importantly, they weren't even a part of the foreign community, and still aren't before Gambit's Cup Season 3. You should know best after dealing with their severely flawed logic of "if no good for China, no good." from Nation Wars.

tl;dr This is bullshit.

typical lrm trying to take wo, just play them on reschedule its only one CW and taking WO is bad form for these inactive days when we don't have enough content. If China can't accommodate for later then penalize them, but since everyone already agreed pre league we'd allow CN to play with their time difference and potential lag issues, rescheduling was inevitable...

We're not requesting a W.O, do you see ANYTHING in what I wrote about a W.O? I think not, you're just a pompous dick. I'm pointing out that China is absolutely lying, and I offer proof in the previous post to back it up. I guess proof isn't indicative of truth in Canadia.


Its clearly implied by the pages of QQ. You are calling him a liar to his face without knowing all the facts. Maybe there are CN players who can log into iccup and maybe his line up for today consists of players who can't. You are quick to make bold accusations without real evidence but since I'm not the CN advisor I will not reply in the thread anymore for now about the matter.

Maybe I'm not good at math. A bold statement:
CW takes 4 players
1 player has an account without iCCup history
10 players on roster

And it's not clearly implied. I suggested a solution privately to Eywa, sorry that you're so quick to assume. Oh wait, you're accusing me of being too quick to assume. Ah, it's all too much.


Why do we let the team managers figure this out...?
Shotcoder - C+ BW Terran, Gold LoL(ADC Main)
ZaRaki_
Profile Joined March 2011
Spain126 Posts
September 02 2012 19:19 GMT
#450
cast?
Sinedd
Profile Joined July 2008
Poland7052 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-02 19:25:10
September 02 2012 19:22 GMT
#451
is this being casted from replays ?

because this game sure does looks weeeeird.. : P

edit - also hacklebeast not casting Gambit Cup will certainly be a blow to the spectator amount

imo
T H C makes ppl happy
ZaRaki_
Profile Joined March 2011
Spain126 Posts
September 02 2012 19:47 GMT
#452
is not about people amount is about quality
Sinedd
Profile Joined July 2008
Poland7052 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-02 19:56:25
September 02 2012 19:55 GMT
#453
On September 03 2012 04:47 ZaRaki_ wrote:
is not about people amount is about quality

well..

it is kinda about the people amount too cause - more people watching = possibility for more sponsors

and the quality of the cast is going to go down too.. ;(

I hate to say that but those dudes casting right now.. they dont even know the players that are playing ;(

actual cast is not that bad but..

yeah..
T H C makes ppl happy
hacklebeast
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5090 Posts
September 02 2012 20:13 GMT
#454
It's really not that much worse than one of my gc casts, and after they work out the tech issues, It should be rather similar.
Protoss: Best, Paralyze, Jangbi, Nal_Ra || Terran: Oov, Boxer, Fantasy, Hiya|| Zerg: Yellow, Zero
Sinedd
Profile Joined July 2008
Poland7052 Posts
September 02 2012 20:35 GMT
#455
On September 03 2012 05:13 hacklebeast wrote:
It's really not that much worse than one of my gc casts, and after they work out the tech issues, It should be rather similar.

oh dont be so polite ! P

I really liked your casting and I get used to it alot

the adjust is going to take some time I think heh..
T H C makes ppl happy
Shotcoder
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2316 Posts
September 02 2012 23:41 GMT
#456
I'd like to thank everyone for putting up with Puppy and I. We will do our best to be just a good as hacklebeast.

This isn't an excuse but this is the first time we've casted together and the 5th time between the two of us that we have casted an event. I'd love to hear any feedback on which you guys would like us to improve. Please shoot me a PM!
Shotcoder - C+ BW Terran, Gold LoL(ADC Main)
hacklebeast
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5090 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-02 23:49:31
September 02 2012 23:47 GMT
#457
On September 03 2012 05:35 Sinedd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2012 05:13 hacklebeast wrote:
It's really not that much worse than one of my gc casts, and after they work out the tech issues, It should be rather similar.

oh dont be so polite ! P

I really liked your casting and I get used to it alot

the adjust is going to take some time I think heh..


wow. After reading what I wrote again, that looks pretty bad. I was talking specifically about the viewer numbers. The numbers were not much worse, and the numbers will probably improve after tech issues are fixed and it starts on time. I was not trying to, and am in no position to objectively, comment on our comparative abilities.
Protoss: Best, Paralyze, Jangbi, Nal_Ra || Terran: Oov, Boxer, Fantasy, Hiya|| Zerg: Yellow, Zero
dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
September 03 2012 01:42 GMT
#458
GGs for CWs, was fun.
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
LRM)nOoNe
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States231 Posts
September 03 2012 01:49 GMT
#459
On September 03 2012 04:22 Sinedd wrote:
is this being casted from replays ?

because this game sure does looks weeeeird.. : P

edit - also hacklebeast not casting Gambit Cup will certainly be a blow to the spectator amount

imo

Viewers peaked at ~270 and averaged ~220, which is very similar to when hacklebeast casted.
Pucca
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Taiwan1280 Posts
September 03 2012 02:48 GMT
#460
To Eywa or Staff regarding Replays

When are replays coming out? Would it be possible to get my hands on the CN replays. Thanks so much!
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