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Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11393 Posts
June 03 2012 05:53 GMT
#101
On June 03 2012 14:46 SarcasmMonster wrote:
Almost every ZvP I've seen so far has been a successful 3 hatch hydra bust. BW ZvP is so 1-dimensional.

That wasn't a 3hat hydra.

It was actually pretty clever because sair sees spire in main and 4th hat placed in nat so Best assumes standard and pulls sair back to main. This makes him miss the hydra timing. In addition, sair saw second gas timing so he assumed muta. (shine wnet 3hat muta vs shy recently)

P.S every zvp isn't a 3hat hydra. It's as dumb as when people say every zvp is 5hat hydra when that hasn't been true for ages either.
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PineappleLumpsToss
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand2434 Posts
June 03 2012 05:53 GMT
#102
On June 03 2012 14:50 baubo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2012 14:48 PineappleLumpsToss wrote:
On June 03 2012 14:46 SarcasmMonster wrote:
Almost every ZvP I've seen so far has been a successful 3 hatch hydra bust. BW ZvP is so 1-dimensional.


Bisu would like to talk to you.


You mean the guy who lost to hyvaa's hydra bust in the OSL preliminaries?


Yep, the guy who has a history with not making it out of OSL prelims.

There's no doubt that Z has the advantage in ZvP, but that's how it's supposed to be. Bisu has made a living of bucking the trend the majority of the time though, certainly enough to say that it's more than 1 dimensional.

Just my opinion though.
X10A
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada9837 Posts
June 03 2012 05:54 GMT
#103
Reality vs P
Oh and Zik, yes forgot about the drones being the 99%
CJ/T8 Fighting//#1 STX and Bisu anti <3//YES X10A is based off the Freedom Gundam
Azriel
Profile Joined December 2010
Mexico462 Posts
June 03 2012 05:54 GMT
#104
Ah wait. Shine put the hydralisk den in his third. Sneaky toilet zerg.
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
June 03 2012 05:54 GMT
#105
Well, maybe Rain can bring us some redemption.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
X10A
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada9837 Posts
June 03 2012 05:55 GMT
#106
Reality vs Womantoss Junior AKA By.Sun AKA By.Rain
CJ/T8 Fighting//#1 STX and Bisu anti <3//YES X10A is based off the Freedom Gundam
Alabasern
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4005 Posts
June 03 2012 05:55 GMT
#107
On June 03 2012 14:54 Zona wrote:
Well, maybe Rain can bring us some redemption.


Reality check
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Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
June 03 2012 05:56 GMT
#108
reality gonna proxy something and lose or win in hilarious fashion
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sM.Zik
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2550 Posts
June 03 2012 05:57 GMT
#109
That girl was slow to react to the camera..
Jaedong Fighting! | youtube.com/ZikGaming
X10A
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada9837 Posts
June 03 2012 05:57 GMT
#110
White terran Reality 7 oclock
Brown toss 1 oclock Womantoss Jr. By.Sun
CJ/T8 Fighting//#1 STX and Bisu anti <3//YES X10A is based off the Freedom Gundam
HighTemper
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada3867 Posts
June 03 2012 05:57 GMT
#111
Expected PvP fest. A PvZ followed by PvT, all is well.
"Issue the orders Sir [JangBi], and I will storm Hell." - Anthony Wayne
PineappleLumpsToss
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand2434 Posts
June 03 2012 05:58 GMT
#112
Rain needs a good win. He's had some discouraging losses so far this season.

Such a talented player though. I'm sure some good form is just round the corner.
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
June 03 2012 05:58 GMT
#113
On June 03 2012 14:53 Harem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2012 14:46 SarcasmMonster wrote:
Almost every ZvP I've seen so far has been a successful 3 hatch hydra bust. BW ZvP is so 1-dimensional.

That wasn't a 3hat hydra.

It was actually pretty clever because sair sees spire in main and 4th hat placed in nat so Best assumes standard and pulls sair back to main. This makes him miss the hydra timing. In addition, sair saw second gas timing so he assumed muta. (shine wnet 3hat muta vs shy recently)

P.S every zvp isn't a 3hat hydra. It's as dumb as when people say every zvp is 5hat hydra when that hasn't been true for ages either.


I get as annoyed as anyone with all this talk of "oh he died to another hydra bust", but you can't deny that zergs these days are so good at disguising the timing of their hydras/mutas to mess up the protoss. Shine, Zero, Soulkey are all good at making their builds look standard 5-hatch build until the moment you see hydra in front of your natural.
Meh
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
June 03 2012 05:59 GMT
#114
Rax no gas from Reality

Hmm, SKT protosses really don't like going early 2 gate vT
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
X10A
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada9837 Posts
June 03 2012 05:59 GMT
#115
Rax on top of the ramp for Reality
Sun scouting 11 oclock first, down to 7 I think
Reality going to scout cross positions
...What THE EFF Hyuk's hair makes me want to puke
CJ/T8 Fighting//#1 STX and Bisu anti <3//YES X10A is based off the Freedom Gundam
Azriel
Profile Joined December 2010
Mexico462 Posts
June 03 2012 05:59 GMT
#116
Go Reality!
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
June 03 2012 06:00 GMT
#117
Reality gets an SCV into Rain's main

but Rain has a hidden pylon at 4.5

Reality taking his nat, adding a bunker

Hidden Citadel!
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
phosphorylation
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2935 Posts
June 03 2012 06:00 GMT
#118
scumbag toss strat...
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X10A
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada9837 Posts
June 03 2012 06:00 GMT
#119
No Sun's going to scout Reality last
Nevermind Sun's hiding something at 5 olcock
CJ/T8 Fighting//#1 STX and Bisu anti <3//YES X10A is based off the Freedom Gundam
sM.Zik
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2550 Posts
June 03 2012 06:00 GMT
#120
On June 03 2012 14:58 baubo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2012 14:53 Harem wrote:
On June 03 2012 14:46 SarcasmMonster wrote:
Almost every ZvP I've seen so far has been a successful 3 hatch hydra bust. BW ZvP is so 1-dimensional.

That wasn't a 3hat hydra.

It was actually pretty clever because sair sees spire in main and 4th hat placed in nat so Best assumes standard and pulls sair back to main. This makes him miss the hydra timing. In addition, sair saw second gas timing so he assumed muta. (shine wnet 3hat muta vs shy recently)

P.S every zvp isn't a 3hat hydra. It's as dumb as when people say every zvp is 5hat hydra when that hasn't been true for ages either.


I get as annoyed as anyone with all this talk of "oh he died to another hydra bust", but you can't deny that zergs these days are so good at disguising the timing of their hydras/mutas to mess up the protoss. Shine, Zero, Soulkey are all good at making their builds look standard 5-hatch build until the moment you see hydra in front of your natural.


I think the best way to notice would be the drones count, which would be lower than a real 5h hydra.
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