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On June 03 2012 14:46 SarcasmMonster wrote:
Almost every ZvP I've seen so far has been a successful 3 hatch hydra bust. BW ZvP is so 1-dimensional.
That wasn't a 3hat hydra.
It was actually pretty clever because sair sees spire in main and 4th hat placed in nat so Best assumes standard and pulls sair back to main. This makes him miss the hydra timing. In addition, sair saw second gas timing so he assumed muta. (shine wnet 3hat muta vs shy recently)
P.S every zvp isn't a 3hat hydra. It's as dumb as when people say every zvp is 5hat hydra when that hasn't been true for ages either.
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On June 03 2012 14:50 baubo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2012 14:48 PineappleLumpsToss wrote:On June 03 2012 14:46 SarcasmMonster wrote:
Almost every ZvP I've seen so far has been a successful 3 hatch hydra bust. BW ZvP is so 1-dimensional. Bisu would like to talk to you. You mean the guy who lost to hyvaa's hydra bust in the OSL preliminaries?
Yep, the guy who has a history with not making it out of OSL prelims.
There's no doubt that Z has the advantage in ZvP, but that's how it's supposed to be. Bisu has made a living of bucking the trend the majority of the time though, certainly enough to say that it's more than 1 dimensional.
Just my opinion though.
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Reality vs P
Oh and Zik, yes forgot about the drones being the 99%
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Ah wait. Shine put the hydralisk den in his third. Sneaky toilet zerg.
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Well, maybe Rain can bring us some redemption.
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Reality vs Womantoss Junior AKA By.Sun AKA By.Rain
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On June 03 2012 14:54 Zona wrote:
Well, maybe Rain can bring us some redemption.
Reality check
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reality gonna proxy something and lose or win in hilarious fashion
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That girl was slow to react to the camera..
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White terran Reality 7 oclock
Brown toss 1 oclock Womantoss Jr. By.Sun
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Expected PvP fest. A PvZ followed by PvT, all is well.
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Rain needs a good win. He's had some discouraging losses so far this season.
Such a talented player though. I'm sure some good form is just round the corner.
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On June 03 2012 14:53 Harem wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2012 14:46 SarcasmMonster wrote:
Almost every ZvP I've seen so far has been a successful 3 hatch hydra bust. BW ZvP is so 1-dimensional. That wasn't a 3hat hydra. It was actually pretty clever because sair sees spire in main and 4th hat placed in nat so Best assumes standard and pulls sair back to main. This makes him miss the hydra timing. In addition, sair saw second gas timing so he assumed muta. (shine wnet 3hat muta vs shy recently) P.S every zvp isn't a 3hat hydra. It's as dumb as when people say every zvp is 5hat hydra when that hasn't been true for ages either.
I get as annoyed as anyone with all this talk of "oh he died to another hydra bust", but you can't deny that zergs these days are so good at disguising the timing of their hydras/mutas to mess up the protoss. Shine, Zero, Soulkey are all good at making their builds look standard 5-hatch build until the moment you see hydra in front of your natural.
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Rax no gas from Reality
Hmm, SKT protosses really don't like going early 2 gate vT
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Rax on top of the ramp for Reality
Sun scouting 11 oclock first, down to 7 I think
Reality going to scout cross positions
...What THE EFF Hyuk's hair makes me want to puke
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Reality gets an SCV into Rain's main
but Rain has a hidden pylon at 4.5
Reality taking his nat, adding a bunker
Hidden Citadel!
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No Sun's going to scout Reality last
Nevermind Sun's hiding something at 5 olcock
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On June 03 2012 14:58 baubo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2012 14:53 Harem wrote:On June 03 2012 14:46 SarcasmMonster wrote:
Almost every ZvP I've seen so far has been a successful 3 hatch hydra bust. BW ZvP is so 1-dimensional. That wasn't a 3hat hydra. It was actually pretty clever because sair sees spire in main and 4th hat placed in nat so Best assumes standard and pulls sair back to main. This makes him miss the hydra timing. In addition, sair saw second gas timing so he assumed muta. (shine wnet 3hat muta vs shy recently) P.S every zvp isn't a 3hat hydra. It's as dumb as when people say every zvp is 5hat hydra when that hasn't been true for ages either. I get as annoyed as anyone with all this talk of "oh he died to another hydra bust", but you can't deny that zergs these days are so good at disguising the timing of their hydras/mutas to mess up the protoss. Shine, Zero, Soulkey are all good at making their builds look standard 5-hatch build until the moment you see hydra in front of your natural.
I think the best way to notice would be the drones count, which would be lower than a real 5h hydra.
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EPT
