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Sayle
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom3685 Posts
December 24 2011 06:46 GMT
#761
The camera was on my cheerful for a full minute but they never put it on screen TT

I won't be going to the matches tomorrow so this is my last chance.
Taekwon
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8155 Posts
December 24 2011 06:47 GMT
#762
Ugh...
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letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
December 24 2011 06:47 GMT
#763
On December 24 2011 15:45 o[twist] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2011 15:44 letian wrote:
On December 24 2011 15:40 poisui wrote:
Was Skyhigh yelling at Leta?

Leta has been quite passive first part of the game, sitting with his tanks on 3 bases, Baby made a surround and just expanded, while increasing pressure on Leta. Actually I doubted in Leta's decision making skill, this game shows it quite well


yeah leta's decision-making wasn't great. baby showed pretty great perspicacity in getting his nat so early and that set the tone for the entire game

I think thats a fundamental principle of TvT
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5595 Posts
December 24 2011 06:47 GMT
#764
On December 24 2011 15:43 mnesthes wrote:
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On December 24 2011 15:43 DarkMatter_ wrote:
On December 24 2011 15:42 mnesthes wrote:
The last 2 games were great. Now please give us Hydra vs Jaehoon and Effort vs Tyson and Skyhigh vs Killer.

what
yes

You'd have to reverse the order of those games.
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
LittLeLives
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States692 Posts
December 24 2011 06:47 GMT
#765
On December 24 2011 15:46 Sayle wrote:
The camera was on my cheerful for a full minute but they never put it on screen TT

I won't be going to the matches tomorrow so this is my last chance.

You're missing a KHAN game?
ARE YOU THE REAL SAYLE?
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
December 24 2011 06:48 GMT
#766
On December 24 2011 15:45 Kiett wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2011 15:42 Golgotha wrote:
On December 24 2011 15:40 poisui wrote:
Was Skyhigh yelling at Leta?


cuz leta lost


As if Skyhigh can talk. At least Leta can play matchups other than TvT -__-

Plus, he's way cuter.


These video tribute of sky high still makes me weary to make such assumptions on sky high , after he reversed all kill Hwazeung oz

BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
December 24 2011 06:48 GMT
#767
Sometimes I think ALL K-pop singers have one producer and songwriter.
o[twist]
Profile Joined May 2008
United States4903 Posts
December 24 2011 06:48 GMT
#768
On December 24 2011 15:47 letian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2011 15:45 o[twist] wrote:
On December 24 2011 15:44 letian wrote:
On December 24 2011 15:40 poisui wrote:
Was Skyhigh yelling at Leta?

Leta has been quite passive first part of the game, sitting with his tanks on 3 bases, Baby made a surround and just expanded, while increasing pressure on Leta. Actually I doubted in Leta's decision making skill, this game shows it quite well


yeah leta's decision-making wasn't great. baby showed pretty great perspicacity in getting his nat so early and that set the tone for the entire game

I think thats a fundamental principle of TvT


sure but i personally was impressed that baby went for the nat so early while he was still under a LOT of pressure from leta's cheese. (it's hard to even remember that proxy rax, it feels like days ago now!)
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11390 Posts
December 24 2011 06:48 GMT
#769
On December 24 2011 15:07 kuroshiroi wrote:
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On December 24 2011 15:04 Harem wrote:
On December 24 2011 14:57 kuroshiroi wrote:
On December 24 2011 14:54 Harem wrote:
On December 24 2011 14:52 kuroshiroi wrote:
On December 24 2011 14:51 Uldridge wrote:
On December 24 2011 14:48 kingalexxx wrote:
On December 24 2011 14:44 Navi wrote:
idk why people think JD was being greedy
snow just hit at the perfect time ( as the lurkers were being morphed and right before his observers formed)
and won because of it
if he tried to wait for his obs, he couldn't have gotten past those lurkers and sunkens and would have been overwhelmed by jd's macro
but he crushed

Exactly this ^
I wouldn't say Jaedong played a bad game. It's just that Snow was really on his game today. First the DT, then chipping away the mutas' hp with sair/archon and then finally a well-timed push into Jaedong's expansion. Snow once again showed us his impressive PvZ just like he did during the bo5 against Jaedong in the MSL.


Oh, and obviously you missed the fact that he completely did not make any units and went for the 4th base practically right after he had taken his 3rd.

And mutas! Only mutas doesn't work against competent P players. Unless it's a muta rush or something.

......

You can't be serious.

It's a trend in JD's game. Mutas and early fourths kill him. All the time.

No, it's decision-making and mis-reads that kills him. Also, over-aggression. (See JD vs Snow on Circuit for example when he doesn't even open "muta" or "6hat")

Not early 4th, mutas, greed whatever you want to call it.

What? That's semantics at best. His decision making is leading him to doing mutas and early 4ths and no units.

5hat muta/scourge +1 flyer cara with later 4th and 6hat4base +1 flyer cara are two of the best openings zvp with a variety of sub-systems. Blaming JD's loss just because of them is like blaming a zerg for going 3hat muta in zvt when he overlings while suspecting 5rax so he dies in later game or having nydus canal in siege tank range when T does 3tank1vessel.

JD didn't lose to Horang2 because he went mutas. He lost because of how he used them. There was no reason to do what he did and he paid the price.

The "builds" are fine. People are just upset that he has lost when it's his fault and not the "build" which leads to a lot of ignorance in threads ie greed/no units. This can happen with any build. If Flash goes 3rax before ebay to deny third but doesn't scan zerg drone count and he dies to 2base allin, then are you going to blame build? No, because that would be Flash's fault for not scanning.

Some of his "losses" were already decided before he even made a single muta as well ie vs Bisu on La Mancha when he made critical mistake of trying a runby when that is the last thing you should ever be doing 6hat as you really can't afford to remake zerglings like that and it just snowballed from there. (rallied zealots to each base does too much damage, has to spend larva on zerglings that should be drones which delays spire, random speedzealot counter into main that does lots of damage and distracts him from getting spore in time for dt at third etc.)
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Shurayuki
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2665 Posts
December 24 2011 06:48 GMT
#770
On December 24 2011 15:47 LittLeLives wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2011 15:46 Sayle wrote:
The camera was on my cheerful for a full minute but they never put it on screen TT

I won't be going to the matches tomorrow so this is my last chance.

You're missing a KHAN game?
ARE YOU THE REAL SAYLE?


no way!

i have the telephone in hand, somebody get me the number of the british embassy!
なまいきになんなよ~ Don't be too stakka~ ☆ SKT Harlequin ☆ n.Die_soO Hoppin You ♪ 愛 am BeSt ♪ ワイフ♥小早川りんこ
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50110 Posts
December 24 2011 06:49 GMT
#771
On December 24 2011 15:46 Sayle wrote:
The camera was on my cheerful for a full minute but they never put it on screen TT

I won't be going to the matches tomorrow so this is my last chance.


not going for a KHAN game?

sayle has failed us.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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poisui
Profile Joined July 2011
1088 Posts
December 24 2011 06:49 GMT
#772
On December 24 2011 15:45 Kiett wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2011 15:42 Golgotha wrote:
On December 24 2011 15:40 poisui wrote:
Was Skyhigh yelling at Leta?


cuz leta lost


As if Skyhigh can talk. At least Leta can play matchups other than TvT -__-

Plus, he's way cuter.

Skyhigh came back and rolled over Mind in a recent game on the same map, when Mind massed up Wraiths.

Based on this game, Leta's TvT is clearly not as polished as Skyhigh's against Mind.
Abort Retry Fail
Profile Joined December 2011
2636 Posts
December 24 2011 06:49 GMT
#773
Translation please
BSOD
Kiett
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States7639 Posts
December 24 2011 06:49 GMT
#774
On December 24 2011 15:46 Sayle wrote:
The camera was on my cheerful for a full minute but they never put it on screen TT

I won't be going to the matches tomorrow so this is my last chance.


It's cuz u aint white bro. Or a cute girl ^^

Where are all the white guys, or the indian guy? Stand next to them, or just get them to hold it for you.
Writer:o
FuRong
Profile Joined April 2010
New Zealand3089 Posts
December 24 2011 06:49 GMT
#775
On December 24 2011 15:48 letian wrote:
Sometimes I think ALL K-pop singers have one producer and songwriter.


You're not too far off, there are only about three main producers in Korea.
Don't hate the player, hate the game
Abort Retry Fail
Profile Joined December 2011
2636 Posts
December 24 2011 06:49 GMT
#776
What's "Hayamopshi"?
BSOD
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
December 24 2011 06:49 GMT
#777
On December 24 2011 15:48 letian wrote:
Sometimes I think ALL K-pop singers have one producer and songwriter.


actually you are pretty close.
o[twist]
Profile Joined May 2008
United States4903 Posts
December 24 2011 06:49 GMT
#778
anybody have a sense of what's being said in the interview?
Tuke
Profile Joined January 2009
Finland1666 Posts
December 24 2011 06:49 GMT
#779
Effort vs Tyson next
TeamLiquid CJ Entusman #42
HighTemper
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada3867 Posts
December 24 2011 06:50 GMT
#780
BaBy Translation plsplspls!! Anyone?
"Issue the orders Sir [JangBi], and I will storm Hell." - Anthony Wayne
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