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iLoveKT
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Philippines3615 Posts
December 18 2011 07:48 GMT
#1041
3-1 again. sigh. feeling like first half of PL 08-09 again.
Woo Jung Ho
gngfn
Profile Joined January 2009
United States1726 Posts
December 18 2011 07:49 GMT
#1042
On December 18 2011 16:47 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2011 16:46 Yxes2211 wrote:
lol... KT has to beat EffOrt and Hydra now T_T

Shiiiiii

Basically have to win a Stats v Zerg and a ZvZ. Not the most outlandish possibilities. but I'm already content with the fact that KT has lost this one.

Barracks comedy option?

There are way too many regular Zerg players for KT to keep relying on their own Zergs' inconsistent ZvZ to win matches.
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
December 18 2011 07:49 GMT
#1043
On December 18 2011 16:48 doothegee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2011 16:47 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On December 18 2011 16:46 Yxes2211 wrote:
lol... KT has to beat EffOrt and Hydra now T_T

Shiiiiii

Basically have to win a Stats v Zerg and a ZvZ. Not the most outlandish possibilities. but I'm already content with the fact that KT has lost this one.

Barracks or even Wooki has a better chance of beating Hydra/Effort than do Hoejja or Action.


No they do not. Any zerg can win a ZvZ.
Remember Violet.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50645 Posts
December 18 2011 07:49 GMT
#1044
On December 18 2011 16:48 doothegee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2011 16:47 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On December 18 2011 16:46 Yxes2211 wrote:
lol... KT has to beat EffOrt and Hydra now T_T

Shiiiiii

Basically have to win a Stats v Zerg and a ZvZ. Not the most outlandish possibilities. but I'm already content with the fact that KT has lost this one.

Barracks or even Wooki has a better chance of beating Hydra/Effort than do Hoejja or Action.


dafuq hoejja has a greater chance than any of the other 3.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
khaydarin9
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia423 Posts
December 18 2011 07:49 GMT
#1045
On December 18 2011 16:46 VirgilSC2 wrote:
OH MY GOD

SO PROUD TO HAVE SKYHIGH ON MY FPL RIGHT NOW


Oh man. If in some strange universe I could have Stats, wooki, Skyhigh, Leta and CJ win all in the same day ... that would make my FPL less miserable than it currently is.
Be safe, Woo Jung Ho <3
Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
December 18 2011 07:49 GMT
#1046
On December 18 2011 16:48 TwoToneTerran wrote:
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On December 18 2011 16:47 Lebesgue wrote:
Seriously Mind, tanks ARE important in TvT. He had so few tanks... Ask Flash and he will tell you himself, invest in tanks goddamit!


Mind had tanks.

They were just on a nice hill and liked the view so they didn't want to go back to all of that icky fighting.


He had 6 tanks stucked on the ledges. He should have taken that into account and got some more tanks on the ground. He just invested in wraiths way too heavily. His tank count was then pretty small even with those tanks on the ledge...
rewired
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada630 Posts
December 18 2011 07:50 GMT
#1047
On December 18 2011 16:46 VirgilSC2 wrote:
OH MY GOD

SO PROUD TO HAVE SKYHIGH ON MY FPL RIGHT NOW


Internet high five me too!
The road isn't always straight.
lizzard_warish
Profile Joined June 2011
589 Posts
December 18 2011 07:50 GMT
#1048
On December 18 2011 16:48 trifecta wrote:
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On December 18 2011 16:46 lizzard_warish wrote:
Finally that boring game is over. God I hate TVT.


trolling much? skyhigh's sense of timing and opportunity was artful
I was half asleep all game, thats the very best TVT will ever deserve.
Yxes2211
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1587 Posts
December 18 2011 07:50 GMT
#1049
On December 18 2011 16:49 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2011 16:48 doothegee wrote:
On December 18 2011 16:47 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On December 18 2011 16:46 Yxes2211 wrote:
lol... KT has to beat EffOrt and Hydra now T_T

Shiiiiii

Basically have to win a Stats v Zerg and a ZvZ. Not the most outlandish possibilities. but I'm already content with the fact that KT has lost this one.

Barracks or even Wooki has a better chance of beating Hydra/Effort than do Hoejja or Action.


No they do not. Any zerg can win a ZvZ.

I disagree, Hydra will likely beat any Zerg he faces. He's got superb ZvZ.
Jaedong and Baby
VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
December 18 2011 07:51 GMT
#1050
wooki take G4 please.......I can dream.
Clarity Gaming #1 Fan | Avid MTG Grinder | @VirgilSC2
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50645 Posts
December 18 2011 07:51 GMT
#1051
This is not over until we have 3 losses I'm not giving up.

I'M NOT GIVING UP AT ALL!
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
December 18 2011 07:52 GMT
#1052
On December 18 2011 16:51 BLinD-RawR wrote:
This is not over until we have 3 losses I'm not giving up.

I'M NOT GIVING UP AT ALL!

You just have to go out kicking and screaming don't you
Because when you left, Brood War was all spotlights and titans. Now, with the death of the big leagues, Brood War has moved to the basements and carparks. Now, Brood War is unlicensed brawls, lost teeth, and bloody fights for fistfulls of money - SirJolt
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
December 18 2011 07:52 GMT
#1053
If your gonna go wraiths do it like FBH. Make 20 starports and just win. If you slowly build up a wraith force, smart players like skyhigh are gonna own you.
infinity2k9
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom2397 Posts
December 18 2011 07:52 GMT
#1054
I dunno how you think Mind fucked up. Skyhigh played smart with the push, i think a lot of Terrans would have also tried to get the aerial mobility advantage and produce all wraiths when he had an entrenched position holding him back 2 bases. But Skyhigh pushed before it counted, and pushed in the spot with the least resistance.
Witten
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2094 Posts
December 18 2011 07:52 GMT
#1055
On December 18 2011 16:46 infinity2k9 wrote:
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On December 18 2011 16:43 Witten wrote:
Yeah... this game is proof that I absolutely do not understand TvT in this game...


Mind invested too heavily in Wraiths. The tank count was not high enough to hold the length of the map, so Skyhigh smartly did a push in one direct area to trade armies and get an expo, before the eco disadvantage kicked in too much. After that push was cleaned up, it was still even supply just mind had a shitload of wraiths. Then the mobility advantage provided by the wraiths was useless because the tank/goliath army could freely move around.


Thank you! That's what I figured. The game started to become more clear near the end. I was wondering why Mind had 3-3 wraiths...
Brood War Forever / NA's premiere Shadow Shaman player / Courier Collector / Bot Game Champion / Highly amateur Mystical Ninja Goemon Speedrunner
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50645 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-18 07:53:17
December 18 2011 07:52 GMT
#1056
On December 18 2011 16:52 Hyde wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2011 16:51 BLinD-RawR wrote:
This is not over until we have 3 losses I'm not giving up.

I'M NOT GIVING UP AT ALL!

You just have to go out kicking and screaming don't you


if you're gonna die, die with boots on.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
subV
Profile Joined June 2011
United States93 Posts
December 18 2011 07:53 GMT
#1057
Not only was the TvT amazing, but the choice to send out Skyhigh was perfect. Here is what I think the coaches were thinking:

Protosses have had good success on ground zero so far, so CJ was likely to send a P, probably Horang2. KT wouldn't have wanted to send out stats against Horang2, because Horang2 rolls faces in PvP, and the map seems pretty disadvantaged for zerg, so they send out Mind in hopes to snipe a P. CJ realizes that sending a P would be predictable and that KT probably wouldn't send a zerg (unfavored on map and KT zergs not performing well) and probably send a T, so they send out Skyhigh.
FuRong
Profile Joined April 2010
New Zealand3089 Posts
December 18 2011 07:53 GMT
#1058
Unfortunately training with Flash doesn't mean you become Flash =/
Don't hate the player, hate the game
doothegee
Profile Joined December 2009
Korea (South)3011 Posts
December 18 2011 07:53 GMT
#1059
On December 18 2011 16:49 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2011 16:48 doothegee wrote:
On December 18 2011 16:47 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On December 18 2011 16:46 Yxes2211 wrote:
lol... KT has to beat EffOrt and Hydra now T_T

Shiiiiii

Basically have to win a Stats v Zerg and a ZvZ. Not the most outlandish possibilities. but I'm already content with the fact that KT has lost this one.

Barracks or even Wooki has a better chance of beating Hydra/Effort than do Hoejja or Action.


No they do not. Any zerg can win a ZvZ.

Hoejja is terrible, and so are the rest of your Zergs. Get over it. I'm so sick of KT fanboys masturbating over their terrible Zergs because they beat a bunch of 1-gating Protosses in the playoffs.
웅진 멘쓰즈
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
December 18 2011 07:53 GMT
#1060
On December 18 2011 16:50 Yxes2211 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2011 16:49 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On December 18 2011 16:48 doothegee wrote:
On December 18 2011 16:47 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On December 18 2011 16:46 Yxes2211 wrote:
lol... KT has to beat EffOrt and Hydra now T_T

Shiiiiii

Basically have to win a Stats v Zerg and a ZvZ. Not the most outlandish possibilities. but I'm already content with the fact that KT has lost this one.

Barracks or even Wooki has a better chance of beating Hydra/Effort than do Hoejja or Action.


No they do not. Any zerg can win a ZvZ.

I disagree, Hydra will likely beat any Zerg he faces. He's got superb ZvZ.


Yeah Hydra always 12 pools in ZvZ recently and wins the game with superior micro and management .
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