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NaDa's interview after his triumph in OSL

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Emlary
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
China3334 Posts
March 05 2005 15:07 GMT
#1
Original korean version is from FiFo, while this is a second-hand translation from chinese version. -_-;;


Q: This is your 2nd OSL champ since the Panasonic OSL in 2003.

A: I feel like dreaming, is it true? I should have been overjoyed but the victory makes me dumb.

Q: 3:0 is totally unexpected?

A: What I predicted was 3:2. Well I'm lucky today, not only win hands down at the 1st game, but also get the most favored position on each map. I think God bless me today, maybe cuz I lost too many finals before.

Q: You've beaten the best two zerg players at present.

A: July won KT-KTF series and Gorush took Golf MSL, so...it's my turn this OSL. Whatever, I just look forward to the champ for a long time. It has been more than 1 year since the lastest champ(1st KT-KTF series). And what makes me sick most is those voices that "NaDa got runner-up in every league he participated in". So I have to defend myself from them with victories.

Q: It seems like both final and semifinal are your revenge games.

A: No, I haven't thought about any revenge. The rival is myself in fact. I am so eager to for the champion, my will is much more furious than anyone. I stopped at quarters in past several seasons, this time I were so anxious for my performance in the quarters. And after the 2:0 winning against Yellow, I thought it's my time to win this OSL.

Q: Really depressed after the defeats in the MSL final and KT-KTF semifinal?

A: Yes, very painful. I had gave up alcohol for three month, but losing the SKY ProLeague Grand Final(Feb 26th), I broke my words and went to drink. Usually I would like to take one bottle, well I drank two that day. To be frank, the semifinal versus Gorush was the toughest one for me. And recently newcomers are very strong. Competing with them, I has less practice and even my APM is lower. The only method to survive in this field is more practice. Besides myself, I hope all those who were remarked as "Four Masters"(referring to BoxeR, Yellow, Reach & NaDa) won't lose heart. Especially it's iloveoov's successive triumphs that press me very hard. I can't release myself at any time, the competition is so cruel.

Q: So you haven't prepared for MBC Teamleague final tomorrow?(March 6th, P&C vs GO)

A: I prepared a lot! Just kidding(laugh). Actually I didn't do anything for it. I appreciate all my teammates who partake of my pressure. I'm grateful to Siva, Mumyung, Silver, Niza and SalMoSa who help me a lot for this final. And to GoodFriend, thanks a lot for his suggestion and strategy on Alchemist.

Q: Maybe a little bit earlier to ask, but what are you going to do during the break of tournament?

A: I have some cutaneous problems recently, so I want to do some cosmetic therapy (laugh). And just stay at home, enjoy meals by my mom. Or get out with my friends. In case that we win tomorrow's fight, I think I will take a good relax.

Q: What's your next goal?

A: Certainly I will fight back to the No.1 on the rank of KeSPA. The victory today is the first step, I must take it again this year.

Q: Some words to your fans?

A: I'm encouraged to see they come here to cheer for me. All of them expected my triumph for a long time, but I disappointed them. During the slump, they still supported me, inspired me. I would have not won this title without ur supporting.
No more SKT1, it's SKP2.
1hp
Profile Joined January 2005
Korea (South)903 Posts
March 05 2005 15:19 GMT
#2
ty!
exalted
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States3612 Posts
March 05 2005 15:20 GMT
#3
cutaneous? what's that?

too easy
Emlary
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
China3334 Posts
March 05 2005 15:23 GMT
#4
On March 06 2005 00:20 exalted wrote:
cutaneous? what's that?



relating to his skin i guess, probably facial problems
No more SKT1, it's SKP2.
Vharox
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States1037 Posts
March 05 2005 15:26 GMT
#5
I cannot see Nada drinking heavily...
WickeD
Profile Joined April 2003
Slovakia789 Posts
March 05 2005 15:27 GMT
#6
THx emlary!!!
Broodwar: Few days to learn, lifetime to Master
kimseongchan
Profile Joined September 2004
Korea (South)733 Posts
March 05 2005 16:00 GMT
#7
On March 06 2005 00:26 Vharox wrote:
I cannot see Nada drinking heavily...

same here..... anyone who watches naruto... hmm.. nada of the drunken mouse :D
life goes on..
MaTRiX[SiN]
Profile Joined September 2003
Sweden1282 Posts
March 05 2005 16:01 GMT
#8
Q: This is your 2nd OSL champ since the Panasonic OSL in 2003.

A: I feel like dreaming, is it true? I should have been overjoyed but the victory makes me dumb.

is that supposed to be 'Numb' or does he really feel stupid for winning? :p
aka StormtoSS
MoltkeWarding
Profile Joined November 2003
5195 Posts
March 05 2005 16:17 GMT
#9
The word dumb refers to someone who lacks the capacity for speech. In this context it means he's so excited he's at a loss for words.

EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
March 05 2005 16:46 GMT
#10
Nada is a drinker? How old is he again, and what's the legal age in Korea?
Moderatorhttp://carbonleaf.yuku.com/topic/408/t/So-I-proposed-at-a-Carbon-Leaf-concert.html ***** RIP Geoff
jtan
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Sweden5891 Posts
March 05 2005 16:49 GMT
#11
nada + alcohol? hmmm
Enter a Uh
MoltkeWarding
Profile Joined November 2003
5195 Posts
March 05 2005 16:49 GMT
#12
On March 06 2005 01:46 EvilTeletubby wrote:
Nada is a drinker? How old is he again, and what's the legal age in Korea?


I think nada is 19-20?
sundance
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
Slovakia3201 Posts
March 05 2005 16:55 GMT
#13
Thx very much.
Where is that dumb who predicted that Nada will never win another starleague again?Just few words to you:"ROFLMAO"
Nick Cave & the Bad Seeds
1hp
Profile Joined January 2005
Korea (South)903 Posts
March 05 2005 17:01 GMT
#14
i think the legal age is 20. not sure though but i remember when i went there my cousin said that he could start drinking at 2005 (he turns 20 then)
sundance
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
Slovakia3201 Posts
March 05 2005 17:05 GMT
#15
Nada is 21 korean age and 20 "common" age
Nick Cave & the Bad Seeds
Teddy
Profile Joined March 2005
China31 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-03-05 20:11:19
March 05 2005 20:09 GMT
#16
Nada is totally a legal drinker.and he needs spending more time on his facial problem.
Play for fun or play to win?
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
16986 Posts
March 05 2005 21:00 GMT
#17
Man, he practiced for today's MSL game? He lost to foru
Moderator
cYaN
Profile Joined May 2004
Norway3322 Posts
March 05 2005 21:00 GMT
#18
wtf are you guys going on about?
he said he usually drinks 1 bottle... and now he had two?
that's like nipping, not actually drinking
Frits
Profile Joined March 2003
11782 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-03-05 21:16:35
March 05 2005 21:12 GMT
#19
Isn't this a spoiler ? :/

Oh well.

And that alcohol thing ... well that just seems laughable if you ask me.
[GiTM]-Ace
Profile Joined September 2002
United States4935 Posts
March 05 2005 21:34 GMT
#20
nada still >>> all!
I may not be the best player right now but I think I can beat any 'best' players. I'll beat all the best players and become the best player. Watch me. - Jju
jacen
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Austria3644 Posts
March 05 2005 21:45 GMT
#21
On March 06 2005 06:00 cYaN wrote:
wtf are you guys going on about?
he said he usually drinks 1 bottle... and now he had two?
that's like nipping, not actually drinking

a bottle of wodka can do a lot of damage.
ask rekrul ..

COMMANDER VODKA !!!
)
(micronesia) lol we aren't going to just permban you (micronesia) "we" excludes Jinro
sundance
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
Slovakia3201 Posts
March 05 2005 22:08 GMT
#22
On March 06 2005 06:00 Empyrean wrote:
Man, he practiced for today's MSL game? He lost to foru

He said he didn't practice for MTL finals.
Nick Cave & the Bad Seeds
ras
Profile Joined November 2003
Germany385 Posts
March 06 2005 01:46 GMT
#23
thx great interview

this win must have released all the pain in nada's heart.
Use the power of mighty GuLaScH!
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
March 06 2005 02:14 GMT
#24
On March 06 2005 06:00 cYaN wrote:
wtf are you guys going on about?
he said he usually drinks 1 bottle... and now he had two?
that's like nipping, not actually drinking


Yeah but look at Nada's bodyweight.
Moderatorhttp://carbonleaf.yuku.com/topic/408/t/So-I-proposed-at-a-Carbon-Leaf-concert.html ***** RIP Geoff
LogaiN
Profile Joined June 2003
Sweden1073 Posts
March 06 2005 02:18 GMT
#25
drinks one bottle of what? ;D
GulleFjuN@Europe
Tien
Profile Joined January 2003
Russian Federation4447 Posts
March 06 2005 03:05 GMT
#26
On March 06 2005 11:18 LogaiN wrote:
drinks one bottle of what? ;D


Domingo Cooler.

0.5% alcohol
We decide our own destiny
sundance
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
Slovakia3201 Posts
March 06 2005 03:28 GMT
#27
On March 06 2005 12:05 Tien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2005 11:18 LogaiN wrote:
drinks one bottle of what? ;D


Domingo Cooler.

0.5% alcohol

ROFL
It's considered as a water in Slovakia
Nick Cave & the Bad Seeds
draeger
Profile Joined July 2003
United States3256 Posts
March 06 2005 03:34 GMT
#28
I can just picture Nada boozing himself unconscious after a big tourney loss
t.t
[BOyGiRl]ShaRp
Profile Joined July 2004
Korea (S)1912 Posts
March 06 2005 03:51 GMT
#29
He probably meant soju.

Beer is like 4~5% alcohol right?

Soju is 21% I think. or somewhere near that
Hexatron Bba!!
SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
March 06 2005 04:03 GMT
#30
On March 06 2005 06:00 cYaN wrote:
wtf are you guys going on about?
he said he usually drinks 1 bottle... and now he had two?
that's like nipping, not actually drinking


well 2 bottles of Soju is like... i dunno... It's not Beer though.
Soju is 30 proof so 2 bottles will make a lot of ppl tipsy and wooO~'d
POWER OVERWHELMING ! ! ! KRUU~ KRUU~
Sharkey
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
668 Posts
March 06 2005 04:14 GMT
#31
Nada checks his apm? kekekeke
If anyone has any serious prayer requests please PM me. Thx.
Patriot.dlk
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Sweden5462 Posts
March 06 2005 04:51 GMT
#32
check? -.- if he´s human he prolly can feel if he´s slower
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
March 06 2005 05:14 GMT
#33
A: I prepared a lot! Just kidding(laugh). Actually I didn't do anything for it. I appreciate all my teammates who partake of my pressure. I'm grateful to Siva, Mumyung, Silver, Niza and SalMoSa who help me a lot for this final. And to GoodFriend, thanks a lot for his suggestion and strategy on Alchemist.


Whoa.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Bizkit
Profile Joined October 2002
Sweden1137 Posts
March 06 2005 06:02 GMT
#34
WTF this interview spoiled the games for me ((((((((((( fuk fuk fuk T_T
change topic to *SPOILER* interview or something t,t
http://www.gosugamers.net
aseq
Profile Joined January 2003
Netherlands3977 Posts
March 06 2005 06:14 GMT
#35
but would these bottles of soju be like 0.75 litre, 30 oz?
or what size do they have em there?
Guybrush
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Spain4744 Posts
March 06 2005 08:59 GMT
#36
how the fuck does alchohol affect his gameplay when its consumed a week before the final ? and if it doesnt why the hell does he mention it ? maybe bad translation but I dont understand how alcohol can be an issue in playing bw. Its not like they're athletes or anything.
Live2Win is awesome. Happy new year scarabi!
danmooj1
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States1855 Posts
March 06 2005 09:04 GMT
#37
nice intervie~ nada fighting!
#1 XellOs fan!
Bard
Profile Joined November 2004
Jamaica898 Posts
March 06 2005 10:14 GMT
#38
yeah should write spoiiler on the title...
Working on Subtitles..
pro_manner
Profile Joined February 2005
Greece145 Posts
March 06 2005 10:34 GMT
#39
haha Nada drinking P I love that guy everybody loves that korean boy :D
Here I go ^^ again :D
useLess
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States4781 Posts
March 06 2005 11:55 GMT
#40
I like how the "Four Masters" refers to Boxer, Yellow, Reach, and Nada. It just suits them so well.
Moonlight Shadow
HiFi
Profile Joined February 2004
United States518 Posts
March 06 2005 13:53 GMT
#41
nada drinking? i still can't get over the kid face he had when he came out, and the kid face he still has now. anyway go nada!!
dont spam ya apm, no good 4 ya health
Sharkey
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
668 Posts
March 06 2005 14:08 GMT
#42
On March 06 2005 13:51 Patriot.dlk wrote:
check? -.- if he´s human he prolly can feel if he´s slower


But since he uses the word "APM" he must some extensive knowledge about BW Chart. I was not sure if he knew anything about it.
If anyone has any serious prayer requests please PM me. Thx.
PanoRaMa
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States5069 Posts
March 06 2005 15:07 GMT
#43
On March 06 2005 20:55 useless wrote:
I like how the "Four Masters" refers to Boxer, Yellow, Reach, and Nada. It just suits them so well.


yeah i like this picture

i think it's supposed to have some reference to some game or something..+_+

[image loading]
ChApFoU
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
France2982 Posts
March 06 2005 15:12 GMT
#44
On March 06 2005 06:00 cYaN wrote:
wtf are you guys going on about?
he said he usually drinks 1 bottle... and now he had two?
that's like nipping, not actually drinking


Depends if it's beer or whisky
"I honestly think that whoever invented toilet paper in a genius" Kang Min
pro_manner
Profile Joined February 2005
Greece145 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-03-06 15:26:13
March 06 2005 15:25 GMT
#45
On March 06 2005 20:55 useless wrote:
I like how the "Four Masters" refers to Boxer, Yellow, Reach, and Nada. It just suits them so well.


yeah sounds cool ,I am addicted to the ''four masters'' especially to the guy on the left :p
Here I go ^^ again :D
rebOund
Profile Joined May 2003
Germany403 Posts
March 06 2005 16:37 GMT
#46
the picture is from an anime called Saiyuki

[image loading]
~GoNe~
Profile Joined October 2004
France36 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-03-06 17:02:48
March 06 2005 16:58 GMT
#47
On March 06 2005 17:59 Guybrush wrote:
how the fuck does alchohol affect his gameplay when its consumed a week before the final ? and if it doesnt why the hell does he mention it ? maybe bad translation but I dont understand how alcohol can be an issue in playing bw. Its not like they're athletes or anything.


Read the interview again buddy. He did not say that alcohol affected his game play but he said that he got drunk after losing his final (or quarter final whatever it is) cuz he was pissed off...
ZyPhReX
Profile Joined January 2003
1192 Posts
March 06 2005 18:05 GMT
#48
For some reason that picture makes me think of Nada, Boxer, Yellow and Reach. At any rate, great interview. GJ by Goodfriend to help him out as well.
Ghost Me
Bard
Profile Joined November 2004
Jamaica898 Posts
March 06 2005 18:25 GMT
#49
i just watched vods and wow his play was just rock-solid

mr um (aka overlord ^^ the commentator on right side) said "nada's showing his best tvz games"

congrats to nada
Working on Subtitles..
gulii
Profile Joined November 2004
Sweden2791 Posts
March 06 2005 18:49 GMT
#50
coool GG !
rS.Pootie
Profile Joined September 2004
United States54 Posts
March 06 2005 20:07 GMT
#51
lol alcoholic ~_~
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
March 06 2005 20:23 GMT
#52
On March 06 2005 06:45 jacen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2005 06:00 cYaN wrote:
wtf are you guys going on about?
he said he usually drinks 1 bottle... and now he had two?
that's like nipping, not actually drinking

a bottle of wodka can do a lot of damage.
ask rekrul ..

COMMANDER VODKA !!!
)


speaking of that isaw a bottle of commander in the store today and bought if or old times sake, gunna get raped again by it

and guys he is talking about soju, 2 bottles of it will fuck a little guy like him up, even 1 bottle will get him very very tipsy

2 bottles FUCKS ME UP LIKE CRAZY

soju is nasty shit, and no the bottles of soju are not standard size like normal liquor bottles, they are smaller.
why so 진지해?
kandyman
Profile Joined December 2004
Swaziland665 Posts
March 06 2005 21:00 GMT
#53
do young people still drink soju?? i thought that is sth. for "older" people...i dont like it at all...
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