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hauton
Profile Joined March 2009
Hong Kong743 Posts
May 11 2011 05:44 GMT
#341
He would've been better off getting siege early and delaying the timing push

He had time before reaver tech came online, because Bisu had gone Stargate (wtf, really Bisu?)

Where were the scans imho
keep it up, youll either be famous or homeless one day
trexbqs
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia1731 Posts
May 11 2011 05:45 GMT
#342
stream....who win?
Learn,live and love it.
hauton
Profile Joined March 2009
Hong Kong743 Posts
May 11 2011 05:45 GMT
#343
On May 11 2011 14:44 ArvickHero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2011 14:43 Lightwip wrote:
Not getting siege really made this so unsuccessful for Classic... Bisu could've done that without a reaver.

he did have siege.. think it finished AFTER the first disastrous battle though
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2011 14:43 mustaju wrote:
Doomsday was upon us. The enemy was mischievious, and 12 nexused/gasstealed, like spineless cowards do. Yet, we are still not defeated. We will fight. And win.

your player was the one who cheesed......

And your response to blind 12 Nex gas steal would've been... play standard while incredibly behind?
keep it up, youll either be famous or homeless one day
Spica
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5582 Posts
May 11 2011 05:45 GMT
#344
Don't worry. In the meantime, we can all enjoy some Frotoss sexiness.

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Frotoss: "Awww yeahhhhh-"

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LIKE A BOSS
How to pronounce the name: "SPY-ka" | Proud to share the same birthday with Shin (神) Dong Won and the almighty BoxeR | 리쌍도 나무에서 떨어진다. | To YellOw: "2位じゃダメなんですか?" ㅋㅋㅋ | Rest in peace, Violet. 08/23/12
mustaju
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Estonia4505 Posts
May 11 2011 05:47 GMT
#345
On May 11 2011 14:44 ArvickHero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2011 14:43 mustaju wrote:
Doomsday was upon us. The enemy was mischievious, and 12 nexused/gasstealed, like spineless cowards do. Yet, we are still not defeated. We will fight. And win.

your player was the one who cheesed......


(P)The Great Enemy started it, and it was a vigorous and righteous response, though ultimately unsuccesful. May future guardians have better luck.
WriterBrows somewhat high. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndFysO2JunE
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-11 05:50:02
May 11 2011 05:47 GMT
#346
On May 11 2011 14:45 hauton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2011 14:44 ArvickHero wrote:
On May 11 2011 14:43 Lightwip wrote:
Not getting siege really made this so unsuccessful for Classic... Bisu could've done that without a reaver.

he did have siege.. think it finished AFTER the first disastrous battle though
On May 11 2011 14:43 mustaju wrote:
Doomsday was upon us. The enemy was mischievious, and 12 nexused/gasstealed, like spineless cowards do. Yet, we are still not defeated. We will fight. And win.

your player was the one who cheesed......

And your response to blind 12 Nex gas steal would've been... play standard while incredibly behind?

or take your gas when you see the Probe in your base? Really just terrible play by Classic, guess cheesing was his only chance to win anyways.
On May 11 2011 14:47 mustaju wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2011 14:44 ArvickHero wrote:
On May 11 2011 14:43 mustaju wrote:
Doomsday was upon us. The enemy was mischievious, and 12 nexused/gasstealed, like spineless cowards do. Yet, we are still not defeated. We will fight. And win.

your player was the one who cheesed......


(P)The Great Enemy started it, and it was a vigorous and righteous response, though ultimately unsuccesful. May future guardians have better luck.

two wrongs don't make a right yo. And 12nex is easily punishable if he went for the less greedy Factory-first build, and scouted normally (12nex isn't so common anymore for a good reason..). The gas steal was just fail on Classic's part.

Actually I remember Kal/Shuttle 12nexusing quite a bit?
Writerptrk
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2173 Posts
May 11 2011 05:47 GMT
#347
He should've definitely gotten siege first. His eco suffered a lot from those six goons hammering away at the bunker.
Dear BW Gods, it IS now autumn, so...
hauton
Profile Joined March 2009
Hong Kong743 Posts
May 11 2011 05:48 GMT
#348
Honestly, I don't see how Deep Six is "cheese" when it's completely what your opponent anticipates.

Then again Bisu made a Stargate for no particular reason so I probably shouldn't give him that much credit.
keep it up, youll either be famous or homeless one day
Spica
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5582 Posts
May 11 2011 05:48 GMT
#349
Yeah, Fomos says Bisu won. Yup.
How to pronounce the name: "SPY-ka" | Proud to share the same birthday with Shin (神) Dong Won and the almighty BoxeR | 리쌍도 나무에서 떨어진다. | To YellOw: "2位じゃダメなんですか?" ㅋㅋㅋ | Rest in peace, Violet. 08/23/12
trexbqs
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia1731 Posts
May 11 2011 05:49 GMT
#350
On May 11 2011 14:48 Spica wrote:
Yeah, Fomos says Bisu won. Yup.


thanks :D
Learn,live and love it.
trexbqs
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia1731 Posts
May 11 2011 05:49 GMT
#351
ssak!!!
Learn,live and love it.
GoodRamen
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States713 Posts
May 11 2011 05:50 GMT
#352
On May 11 2011 14:48 hauton wrote:
Honestly, I don't see how Deep Six is "cheese" when it's completely what your opponent anticipates.

Then again Bisu made a Stargate for no particular reason so I probably shouldn't give him that much credit.


i believe bisu wanted to go carriers but when he saw the deep six he cancel the stargate and the air weapon
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Spica
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5582 Posts
May 11 2011 05:50 GMT
#353
Thanks very muchly for the stream JSH! :DDD
How to pronounce the name: "SPY-ka" | Proud to share the same birthday with Shin (神) Dong Won and the almighty BoxeR | 리쌍도 나무에서 떨어진다. | To YellOw: "2位じゃダメなんですか?" ㅋㅋㅋ | Rest in peace, Violet. 08/23/12
mustaju
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Estonia4505 Posts
May 11 2011 05:50 GMT
#354
Last, the Dream League Bonjwa has arrived. Will his great record of 24-5 be enough to prevail against an evil as great as (T)Ssak?
WriterBrows somewhat high. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndFysO2JunE
Kiante
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7069 Posts
May 11 2011 05:50 GMT
#355
On May 11 2011 14:48 hauton wrote:
Honestly, I don't see how Deep Six is "cheese" when it's completely what your opponent anticipates.

Then again Bisu made a Stargate for no particular reason so I probably shouldn't give him that much credit.

what are you talking about? A cheese is something that when scouted doesn't work. if someone scouts you going deep6 and gets a reaver or templar you're boned. If bisu knew a deep6 was coming he wouldn't have started getting carriers (stargate and +1 air weapons).
The reason classsic failed was the engagement that bisu set up was good and classics micro was fail.
Writer
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2173 Posts
May 11 2011 05:51 GMT
#356
On May 11 2011 14:48 hauton wrote:
Honestly, I don't see how Deep Six is "cheese" when it's completely what your opponent anticipates.

Then again Bisu made a Stargate for no particular reason so I probably shouldn't give him that much credit.

I'm pretty sure that Bisu didn't realise it was a bio build until he saw the medics.
Dear BW Gods, it IS now autumn, so...
Severedevil
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4839 Posts
May 11 2011 05:51 GMT
#357
On May 11 2011 14:45 hauton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2011 14:44 ArvickHero wrote:
On May 11 2011 14:43 Lightwip wrote:
Not getting siege really made this so unsuccessful for Classic... Bisu could've done that without a reaver.

he did have siege.. think it finished AFTER the first disastrous battle though
On May 11 2011 14:43 mustaju wrote:
Doomsday was upon us. The enemy was mischievious, and 12 nexused/gasstealed, like spineless cowards do. Yet, we are still not defeated. We will fight. And win.

your player was the one who cheesed......

And your response to blind 12 Nex gas steal would've been... play standard while incredibly behind?

Gas steal --> build CC and continue game.

That's the normal progression.

You may need bunker(s) since your gas is late, but against a 12 nexus, so is the Protoss's.
My strategy is to fork people.
chisuri
Profile Joined January 2010
Vietnam789 Posts
May 11 2011 05:51 GMT
#358
On May 11 2011 14:48 hauton wrote:
Honestly, I don't see how Deep Six is "cheese" when it's completely what your opponent anticipates.

Then again Bisu made a Stargate for no particular reason so I probably shouldn't give him that much credit.

He was going carriers. And no you can't anticipate deep 6 even if you were Flash and cheat with map hack turn on.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
May 11 2011 05:51 GMT
#359
Ssak has good TvT, and I saw Last get totally destroyed on all fronts by Baby, so I doubt Last takes this.
WriterXiao8~~
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-11 05:52:43
May 11 2011 05:51 GMT
#360
On May 11 2011 14:48 hauton wrote:
Then again Bisu made a Stargate for no particular reason so I probably shouldn't give him that much credit.

Pretty sure that stargate is meant for tech units like, say, arbiters/carriers?
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
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