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Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4728 Posts
January 15 2011 04:55 GMT
#161
Going for a pretty fast fourth base and then moving out with like 24 hydras just to meet an equal amount of speedlots+archon that will eat them for breakfast, I don't understand this decision making at all. If you aren't going to build any lurkers and go for four bases, turtle harder.

Maybe I've just not watched enough BW lately and don't know the reasoning, but that loss was pretty bad. Let's see what Bisu can do today.
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
CCa1ss1e
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3231 Posts
January 15 2011 04:55 GMT
#162
how is it fair that they play bisu second? they did that last time. seems unfair to play him that early.

gogo bisu though! XD
~ The Ultimate Weapon
PineappleLumpsToss
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand2434 Posts
January 15 2011 04:56 GMT
#163
I think efficient is the best way to summarise that performance from Bisu.

Wemade have a few head-aches for Bisu though - Shine, Baby and Pure. I wonder who they'll go with?
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-15 04:57:41
January 15 2011 04:56 GMT
#164
On January 15 2011 13:55 Malinor wrote:
Going for a pretty fast fourth base and then moving out with like 24 hydras just to meet an equal amount of speedlots+archon that will eat them for breakfast, I don't understand this decision making at all. If you aren't going to build any lurkers and go for four bases, turtle harder.

Maybe I've just not watched enough BW lately and don't know the reasoning, but that loss was pretty bad. Let's see what Bisu can do today.

probably worked against Pure in practice

also probably didn't encounter Bisu probes sniping drones and killing 3 ovies either haha
Writerptrk
mustaju
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Estonia4504 Posts
January 15 2011 04:57 GMT
#165
On January 15 2011 13:53 hacklebeast wrote:
it looks like pure is in the middle of the circle, so he is probaly next.

I would send mind personaly

Then you'd perform suboptimally. Pure has some sick PvP, and Bisu is recently most lacking in that matchup. I'm so hoping for a Stork-Bisu repeat where + Show Spoiler +
Bisu tried to do a lot of greedy stuff and ended up botching it all horribly.
WriterBrows somewhat high. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndFysO2JunE
hacklebeast
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5090 Posts
January 15 2011 04:59 GMT
#166
On January 15 2011 13:55 Malinor wrote:
Going for a pretty fast fourth base and then moving out with like 24 hydras just to meet an equal amount of speedlots+archon that will eat them for breakfast, I don't understand this decision making at all. If you aren't going to build any lurkers and go for four bases, turtle harder.

Maybe I've just not watched enough BW lately and don't know the reasoning, but that loss was pretty bad. Let's see what Bisu can do today.


There has been a general trend in PvZ of just going for early hydra busts like that and just winning. Bisu made it look like a terrible strat, but it has had a lot of sucess lately
Protoss: Best, Paralyze, Jangbi, Nal_Ra || Terran: Oov, Boxer, Fantasy, Hiya|| Zerg: Yellow, Zero
Lachrymose
Profile Joined February 2008
Australia1928 Posts
January 15 2011 04:59 GMT
#167
On January 15 2011 13:55 Malinor wrote:
Going for a pretty fast fourth base and then moving out with like 24 hydras just to meet an equal amount of speedlots+archon that will eat them for breakfast, I don't understand this decision making at all. If you aren't going to build any lurkers and go for four bases, turtle harder.

Maybe I've just not watched enough BW lately and don't know the reasoning, but that loss was pretty bad. Let's see what Bisu can do today.


if you're relying on hyrdas for defence you need to get outside your choke so you can join them all up. if you turtle too hard you won't be able to get all your hydras together.
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Ecrilon
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
501 Posts
January 15 2011 04:59 GMT
#168
On January 15 2011 13:55 cca1ss1e wrote:
how is it fair that they play bisu second? they did that last time. seems unfair to play him that early.

gogo bisu though! XD

It seems reasonable for SKT to send a newer player as the first set and if he loses, depending on the race, send Best vT, Bisu vZ, Fantasy vP.
There is but one truth.
chisuri
Profile Joined January 2010
Vietnam789 Posts
January 15 2011 05:00 GMT
#169
Bisu is setting up new PvZ Elo peak of all time with each win. If he all-kills 4 zerg from Wemade, yeah, it will be hard to break that record.
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4728 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-15 05:02:44
January 15 2011 05:00 GMT
#170
On January 15 2011 13:56 ArvickHero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2011 13:55 Malinor wrote:
Going for a pretty fast fourth base and then moving out with like 24 hydras just to meet an equal amount of speedlots+archon that will eat them for breakfast, I don't understand this decision making at all. If you aren't going to build any lurkers and go for four bases, turtle harder.

Maybe I've just not watched enough BW lately and don't know the reasoning, but that loss was pretty bad. Let's see what Bisu can do today.

probably worked against Pure in practice

also probably didn't encounter Bisu probes sniping drones and killing 3 ovies either haha


Bisu's scouting-probes are creatures sent directly from hell to taunt zerg-players all around the world. These bastards are so scary.
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
pinkranger15
Profile Joined June 2010
Philippines1597 Posts
January 15 2011 05:01 GMT
#171
uh oh. a PvP
yoyo!
mustaju
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Estonia4504 Posts
January 15 2011 05:01 GMT
#172
On January 15 2011 13:59 Lachrymose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2011 13:55 Malinor wrote:
Going for a pretty fast fourth base and then moving out with like 24 hydras just to meet an equal amount of speedlots+archon that will eat them for breakfast, I don't understand this decision making at all. If you aren't going to build any lurkers and go for four bases, turtle harder.

Maybe I've just not watched enough BW lately and don't know the reasoning, but that loss was pretty bad. Let's see what Bisu can do today.


if you're relying on hyrdas for defence you need to get outside your choke so you can join them all up. if you turtle too hard you won't be able to get all your hydras together.

Unless you get hive and a pretty building that's called a Nydus Canal. Still, pushing out at that moment seemed suicidal.
WriterBrows somewhat high. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndFysO2JunE
SwordM13X24
Profile Joined July 2010
United States191 Posts
January 15 2011 05:02 GMT
#173
Bisu vs Pure!
Apex
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States7227 Posts
January 15 2011 05:02 GMT
#174
Pure is out for Wemade.

Pure v. Bisu
hacklebeast
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5090 Posts
January 15 2011 05:02 GMT
#175
On January 15 2011 13:57 mustaju wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2011 13:53 hacklebeast wrote:
it looks like pure is in the middle of the circle, so he is probaly next.

I would send mind personaly

Then you'd perform suboptimally. Pure has some sick PvP, and Bisu is recently most lacking in that matchup. I'm so hoping for a Stork-Bisu repeat where + Show Spoiler +
Bisu tried to do a lot of greedy stuff and ended up botching it all horribly.


since when is 52% "sick" just because he is abysmal at the other two MU's doesn't make him great at pvp. And bisu has always been weakest vs T. His vP hasn't been that good lately, but with so many games vs kal and stork, it is forgiveable. Besides, who else is mind going to play, an skt zerg I guess?
Protoss: Best, Paralyze, Jangbi, Nal_Ra || Terran: Oov, Boxer, Fantasy, Hiya|| Zerg: Yellow, Zero
CCa1ss1e
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3231 Posts
January 15 2011 05:03 GMT
#176
On January 15 2011 13:59 Ecrilon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2011 13:55 cca1ss1e wrote:
how is it fair that they play bisu second? they did that last time. seems unfair to play him that early.

gogo bisu though! XD

It seems reasonable for SKT to send a newer player as the first set and if he loses, depending on the race, send Best vT, Bisu vZ, Fantasy vP.


guess that makes sense.. but not only is bisu good against Z, he's just GOOD overall.

I'm rooting for SKT, but it will be interesting if someone stops bisu.

XD
~ The Ultimate Weapon
Adr4melecH
Profile Joined March 2010
Thailand667 Posts
January 15 2011 05:03 GMT
#177
oh shii it's pure

bisu pvp hasnt been that hot lately and pure pvp is good but i beieve in bisu!

epic game please ;]
shadesofkarma
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Romania708 Posts
January 15 2011 05:04 GMT
#178
PvP beesuit vs pure gogo~
PineappleLumpsToss
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand2434 Posts
January 15 2011 05:04 GMT
#179
Bisu vs Pure are usually really good games to watch. Here's hoping for another great game.
FakePlasticLove
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States357 Posts
January 15 2011 05:04 GMT
#180
On January 15 2011 14:02 hacklebeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2011 13:57 mustaju wrote:
On January 15 2011 13:53 hacklebeast wrote:
it looks like pure is in the middle of the circle, so he is probaly next.

I would send mind personaly

Then you'd perform suboptimally. Pure has some sick PvP, and Bisu is recently most lacking in that matchup. I'm so hoping for a Stork-Bisu repeat where + Show Spoiler +
Bisu tried to do a lot of greedy stuff and ended up botching it all horribly.


since when is 52% "sick" just because he is abysmal at the other two MU's doesn't make him great at pvp. And bisu has always been weakest vs T. His vP hasn't been that good lately, but with so many games vs kal and stork, it is forgiveable. Besides, who else is mind going to play, an skt zerg I guess?


Don't dismiss a player just by his winnrate. Pure does have a good PvP, and was on a 9 win streak recently. He has wins over Shuttle, Stork, Free, etc.
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