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AppleTart
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1261 Posts
December 26 2010 06:55 GMT
#621
Like people have said earlier, Fantasy's decision making seems to be just off.
always tired -_-
ffreakk
Profile Joined September 2010
Singapore2155 Posts
December 26 2010 06:55 GMT
#622
Hmm.. I think its by.Sun vs Light.. I still feel that by.Sun is the more solid player (in practice) and it seems that his PvT isnt bad either.. Light's vP isnt too awesome so i guess he ll come out..

Fantasy really should have won though >.< i dont know why he let Tyson take so many bases w/o doing much of anything.. Especially that island expo, should have tried to punish that at least >.<
Look. Only Forward. See. Only Victory.
darklordjac
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada2231 Posts
December 26 2010 06:55 GMT
#623
Fantasy is one of my favourite players sad to see him slumping
Spica
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5582 Posts
December 26 2010 06:55 GMT
#624
On December 26 2010 15:52 structuralinertia wrote:
skt fans so brutal to poor fanta he's saved your team many more times than he's failed it
Very true, I do like Fanta and his style and all, but I just wonder what's up with him lately. It's time for him to play more aggressively and take more force!
How to pronounce the name: "SPY-ka" | Proud to share the same birthday with Shin (神) Dong Won and the almighty BoxeR | 리쌍도 나무에서 떨어진다. | To YellOw: "2位じゃダメなんですか?" ㅋㅋㅋ | Rest in peace, Violet. 08/23/12
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
December 26 2010 06:56 GMT
#625
On December 26 2010 15:55 ffreakk wrote:
Hmm.. I think its by.Sun vs Light.. I still feel that by.Sun is the more solid player (in practice) and it seems that his PvT isnt bad either.. Light's vP isnt too awesome so i guess he ll come out..

Fantasy really should have won though >.< i dont know why he let Tyson take so many bases w/o doing much of anything.. Especially that island expo, should have tried to punish that at least >.<


no way, han had two speed shuttles, there's no way fanta could've taken down the island expo without investing in at least 3 DS, maybe more.
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
December 26 2010 06:56 GMT
#626
On December 26 2010 15:54 kamikami wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2010 15:49 Seide wrote:
So I just started watching Brood War this season, but isnt Fantasy suppose to be good? All I have been seeing is him losing, over and over.


In the past when he slumped he use Boxer's builds to cheese his way out of slumping and when he was in form he used oov's builds to catch people off guard.

Now he is slumping and Boxer is gone, no more well-thought cheese man.

When fantasy was good, no protoss could touch him, his TvT was second only to perhaps Flash's (and Skyhigh's, perhaps), and his strong mech TvZ worked most of the time (his bio TvZ really, really sucked though)

Now his bio TvZ is passable, but...he loses in what was supposed to be his best matchup vs...Tyson?!?!?!
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
darklordjac
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada2231 Posts
December 26 2010 06:57 GMT
#627
Yeah his bio got better but everything else declined
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
December 26 2010 06:57 GMT
#628
On December 26 2010 15:56 Zona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2010 15:54 kamikami wrote:
On December 26 2010 15:49 Seide wrote:
So I just started watching Brood War this season, but isnt Fantasy suppose to be good? All I have been seeing is him losing, over and over.


In the past when he slumped he use Boxer's builds to cheese his way out of slumping and when he was in form he used oov's builds to catch people off guard.

Now he is slumping and Boxer is gone, no more well-thought cheese man.

When fantasy was good, no protoss could touch him, his TvT was second only to perhaps Flash's (and Skyhigh's, perhaps), and his strong mech TvZ worked most of the time (his bio TvZ really, really sucked though)

Now his bio TvZ is passable, but...he loses in what was supposed to be his best matchup vs...Tyson?!?!?!

Tyson and MBC tosses in general have good PvT. It's not that much of a surprise.
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
December 26 2010 06:58 GMT
#629
Fantasy rubbing his nose, wondering what went wrong....

Tyson with a smug smile

By.Sun's up.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
December 26 2010 06:58 GMT
#630
sun v light.

hmmph.
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
Katsuge
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore7730 Posts
December 26 2010 06:58 GMT
#631
poor sun being sent out when skt is on the bridge of failling..

김태연 | 정은지 | 아이유 |  한효주 | 이민정 <3 -|||- 소녀시대 에이핑크 사랑해!
darklordjac
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada2231 Posts
December 26 2010 06:58 GMT
#632
Forgot about By.Sun
Spica
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5582 Posts
December 26 2010 06:58 GMT
#633
It's sun, yup! vs. Light.

Will the rookie come through for his team today? I certainly hope so.
How to pronounce the name: "SPY-ka" | Proud to share the same birthday with Shin (神) Dong Won and the almighty BoxeR | 리쌍도 나무에서 떨어진다. | To YellOw: "2位じゃダメなんですか?" ㅋㅋㅋ | Rest in peace, Violet. 08/23/12
darklordjac
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada2231 Posts
December 26 2010 06:59 GMT
#634
On December 26 2010 15:58 Katsuge wrote:
poor sun being sent out when skt is on the bridge of failling..



See now if they lose the can blame it on Sun instead of Paralyze lol
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
December 26 2010 06:59 GMT
#635
ugh.. they keep sending out Sun when their team's on the brink of being finished, and he's just not good under pressure ~__~
Writerptrk
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
December 26 2010 06:59 GMT
#636
On December 26 2010 15:57 Ryo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2010 15:56 Zona wrote:
On December 26 2010 15:54 kamikami wrote:
On December 26 2010 15:49 Seide wrote:
So I just started watching Brood War this season, but isnt Fantasy suppose to be good? All I have been seeing is him losing, over and over.


In the past when he slumped he use Boxer's builds to cheese his way out of slumping and when he was in form he used oov's builds to catch people off guard.

Now he is slumping and Boxer is gone, no more well-thought cheese man.

When fantasy was good, no protoss could touch him, his TvT was second only to perhaps Flash's (and Skyhigh's, perhaps), and his strong mech TvZ worked most of the time (his bio TvZ really, really sucked though)

Now his bio TvZ is passable, but...he loses in what was supposed to be his best matchup vs...Tyson?!?!?!

Tyson and MBC tosses in general have good PvT. It's not that much of a surprise.

I know you love MBC and I can feel some empathy for your point of view, but Tyson is in general, terrible. His PvT is somewhat better than his other matchups but that doesn't make it "good".

It's a matchup we ordinarily would have expected Fantasy to win easily.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Oystein
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Norway1602 Posts
December 26 2010 06:59 GMT
#637
On December 26 2010 15:54 Cambium wrote:
fantasy made some really questionable decisions that game

1) he kept on sacrificing vultures for probes
2) didn't target fire nexus with the two tanks at 10:00
3) decided to take down the two expos instead of pushing directly for main
4) re: 3), didn't kill either of the nexuses

Trying to take out the expos as he was doing is probably a better choice than going for the main, he didnt really have THAT much units that he could risk losing his entire army trying to break into the main. Having superior high ground positioning and taking out the expos are a lot safer way to win that game than risking breaking himself trying to attack his main. His only failure was not taking out any of the 2 expos, had he done it he would probably have won the game.
God Hates a Coward
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
December 26 2010 07:00 GMT
#638
fantasy should be sent out early. bisu sent out later
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
Spica
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5582 Posts
December 26 2010 07:00 GMT
#639
You do have to commend Tyson for doing so many successful harasses and Fantasy caught off guard and not really defending his expansions that well. That poor expo at 3 was getting slaughtered throughout the whole game.
How to pronounce the name: "SPY-ka" | Proud to share the same birthday with Shin (神) Dong Won and the almighty BoxeR | 리쌍도 나무에서 떨어진다. | To YellOw: "2位じゃダメなんですか?" ㅋㅋㅋ | Rest in peace, Violet. 08/23/12
integral
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3156 Posts
December 26 2010 07:00 GMT
#640
You guys are so fickle, only a few weeks prior fantasy was on a twelve win streak and everyone was praising him for being the obvious #3 broodwar player behind flash and jaedong, with no one else really close. Sheesh, one little bad spot and suddenly he's a terrible player?
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