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On October 20 2010 16:26 Ryo wrote: January's fault. Can't understand why coaches wld send slumping players in for the ace match only to get further crushed in confidence.
Exactly... poor guy is on a 7 loss streak now. Hope he doesn't get discouraged.
January is still awesome though. <3
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Estonia4504 Posts
I do get wanting to give additional playtime to players without whom competing is pointless anyway. KHAN won't start performing unless Jangbi gets his act together. Oz won't start performing till all those pseudo B-teamers start playing as their position demands it to. I'm willing to bet that at the end of the season, we'll see some major improvement on both teams. EDIT: Obligatory and well-deserved thank you to both Grobyc and Chaos for streaming! (Please let me know ahead of time next time, if you can. It isn't fun not knowing whether there'll be a stream.)
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Man, Sea's TvP looks really, really scary. O_o
Jangbi is so far away from the level of his prime. Makes me sad to see. And I do not understand at all why he was sent out for the ace game since they have the best PvT'er in the world in the team. Like, sometimes it makes sort of sense to send out a ''sniper'' in ace games, but sending out an inferior player of the same race is just...
This could've been such a great comeback. It gives a little hope though, to see that Samsung are capable of taking things to ace. If they just send Stork next time...
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Fenrax
United States5018 Posts
On October 20 2010 16:30 Anomarad wrote: January is still awesome though. <3
Why? Because she is a woman? The decision to send Jangbi is pure incompetence and it did cost Khan a possible victory. The reasonable thing to do would be to deprive of authority whoever was responsible for that decision and employ someone who does not make retarded decisions.
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On October 20 2010 16:30 Anomarad wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2010 16:26 Ryo wrote: January's fault. Can't understand why coaches wld send slumping players in for the ace match only to get further crushed in confidence. Exactly... poor guy is on a 7 loss streak now.  Hope he doesn't get discouraged. January is still awesome though. <3
He'll shld recover, Khan hasn't played ACE or Oz yet. Even Jaehoon managed to start winning again (well sort of) after Coach Ha kept sending him as ace player last season.
+ Show Spoiler + Actually I suspect that's one reason why the players lodged a complaint against Coach Ha.
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On October 20 2010 16:34 Fenrax wrote:Why? Because she is a woman? The decision to send Jangbi is pure incompetence and it did cost Khan a possible victory. The reasonable thing to do would be to deprive of authority whoever was responsible for that decision and employ someone who does not make retarded decisions.
No, because she would threaten to quit her job for a player on her team to keep his current salary... or argue with referee's for an hour on live tv about a map bug that messed up her players build. Her team doesn't get lot of money, so it's hard to always show good results. I do agree that sending Jangbi out today was a huge blunder though. Not sure what she was trying to accomplish.
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Sigh my internet disconnects RIGHT when match begins, and it's back now. I suppose that was God's intervention to prevent me from killing myself.
As said above... NO STORK NO WIN
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On October 20 2010 16:41 Anomarad wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2010 16:34 Fenrax wrote:On October 20 2010 16:30 Anomarad wrote: January is still awesome though. <3 Why? Because she is a woman? The decision to send Jangbi is pure incompetence and it did cost Khan a possible victory. The reasonable thing to do would be to deprive of authority whoever was responsible for that decision and employ someone who does not make retarded decisions. No, because she would threaten to quit her job for a player on her team to keep his current salary... or argue with referee's for an hour on live tv about a map bug that messed up her players build. Her team doesn't get lot of money, so it's hard to always show good results. I do agree that sending Jangbi out today was a huge blunder though.  Not sure what she was trying to accomplish. Probably trying to do the good ole' strategy where you send a slumping player to an ACE match and hope they win so that it reinvigorates them and shit.. but in this case it backfired pretty horrednously
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god... i love jangbi and watching him play and all, but it was just painful tonight to see him lose like that. poor guy, i can just imagine his confidence level plummet....
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On October 20 2010 16:59 ArvickHero wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2010 16:41 Anomarad wrote:On October 20 2010 16:34 Fenrax wrote:On October 20 2010 16:30 Anomarad wrote: January is still awesome though. <3 Why? Because she is a woman? The decision to send Jangbi is pure incompetence and it did cost Khan a possible victory. The reasonable thing to do would be to deprive of authority whoever was responsible for that decision and employ someone who does not make retarded decisions. No, because she would threaten to quit her job for a player on her team to keep his current salary... or argue with referee's for an hour on live tv about a map bug that messed up her players build. Her team doesn't get lot of money, so it's hard to always show good results. I do agree that sending Jangbi out today was a huge blunder though.  Not sure what she was trying to accomplish. Probably trying to do the good ole' strategy where you send a slumping player to an ACE match and hope they win so that it reinvigorates them and shit.. but in this case it backfired pretty horrednously
oh yeah, same strategy Coach Cho tried with Killer... has it ever worked?
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On October 20 2010 17:15 Ryo wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2010 16:59 ArvickHero wrote:On October 20 2010 16:41 Anomarad wrote:On October 20 2010 16:34 Fenrax wrote:On October 20 2010 16:30 Anomarad wrote: January is still awesome though. <3 Why? Because she is a woman? The decision to send Jangbi is pure incompetence and it did cost Khan a possible victory. The reasonable thing to do would be to deprive of authority whoever was responsible for that decision and employ someone who does not make retarded decisions. No, because she would threaten to quit her job for a player on her team to keep his current salary... or argue with referee's for an hour on live tv about a map bug that messed up her players build. Her team doesn't get lot of money, so it's hard to always show good results. I do agree that sending Jangbi out today was a huge blunder though.  Not sure what she was trying to accomplish. Probably trying to do the good ole' strategy where you send a slumping player to an ACE match and hope they win so that it reinvigorates them and shit.. but in this case it backfired pretty horrednously oh yeah, same strategy Coach Cho tried with Killer... has it ever worked?
Well Coach Cho from CJ , a lot of times sends the player who lost in his regular game to play the Ace match and had good success with it .
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On October 20 2010 17:29 raga4ka wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2010 17:15 Ryo wrote:On October 20 2010 16:59 ArvickHero wrote:On October 20 2010 16:41 Anomarad wrote:On October 20 2010 16:34 Fenrax wrote:On October 20 2010 16:30 Anomarad wrote: January is still awesome though. <3 Why? Because she is a woman? The decision to send Jangbi is pure incompetence and it did cost Khan a possible victory. The reasonable thing to do would be to deprive of authority whoever was responsible for that decision and employ someone who does not make retarded decisions. No, because she would threaten to quit her job for a player on her team to keep his current salary... or argue with referee's for an hour on live tv about a map bug that messed up her players build. Her team doesn't get lot of money, so it's hard to always show good results. I do agree that sending Jangbi out today was a huge blunder though.  Not sure what she was trying to accomplish. Probably trying to do the good ole' strategy where you send a slumping player to an ACE match and hope they win so that it reinvigorates them and shit.. but in this case it backfired pretty horrednously oh yeah, same strategy Coach Cho tried with Killer... has it ever worked? Well Coach Cho from CJ , a lot of times sends the player who lost in his regular game to play the Ace match and had good success with it .
Apples and oranges.
CJ sent out people who were capable to winning their games. Even if Skyhigh loses his game, if you send him out against a terran heavy lineup, chances are he's not going to embarrass himself if he gets to play a terran.
Sending Jaehoon. Killer, and Jangbi is not the same as CJ sending out a decent player. These people are seriously worthless right now (Jaehoon can't forge expand correctly, Killer gets crushed by Skyhigh in TvZ, and Jangbi's PvT is one of the worst among protoss players right now) and sending them out as the team's ace is not going to achieve anything.
Because ultimately Jaehoon and Killer are never going to become good and Jangbi is likely to never get past this slump. Why send out people with utterly no chance of winning their game unless the other team sends out a random scrub?
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I know it's been a long time since he was an elite PvT player, but it's still incredible to me how far Jangbi has fallen in the matchup. He just seemed so utterly and completely dominant at it once upon a time (and has an insane PvT peak ELO to show for it).
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On October 20 2010 17:50 Womwomwom wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2010 17:29 raga4ka wrote:On October 20 2010 17:15 Ryo wrote:On October 20 2010 16:59 ArvickHero wrote:On October 20 2010 16:41 Anomarad wrote:On October 20 2010 16:34 Fenrax wrote:On October 20 2010 16:30 Anomarad wrote: January is still awesome though. <3 Why? Because she is a woman? The decision to send Jangbi is pure incompetence and it did cost Khan a possible victory. The reasonable thing to do would be to deprive of authority whoever was responsible for that decision and employ someone who does not make retarded decisions. No, because she would threaten to quit her job for a player on her team to keep his current salary... or argue with referee's for an hour on live tv about a map bug that messed up her players build. Her team doesn't get lot of money, so it's hard to always show good results. I do agree that sending Jangbi out today was a huge blunder though.  Not sure what she was trying to accomplish. Probably trying to do the good ole' strategy where you send a slumping player to an ACE match and hope they win so that it reinvigorates them and shit.. but in this case it backfired pretty horrednously oh yeah, same strategy Coach Cho tried with Killer... has it ever worked? Well Coach Cho from CJ , a lot of times sends the player who lost in his regular game to play the Ace match and had good success with it . Apples and oranges. CJ sent out people who were capable to winning their games. Even if Skyhigh loses his game, if you send him out against a terran heavy lineup, chances are he's not going to embarrass himself if he gets to play a terran. Sending Jaehoon. Killer, and Jangbi is not the same as CJ sending out a decent player. These people are seriously worthless right now (Jaehoon can't forge expand correctly, Killer gets crushed by Skyhigh in TvZ, and Jangbi's PvT is one of the worst among protoss players right now) and sending them out as the team's ace is not going to achieve anything. Because ultimately Jaehoon and Killer are never going to become good and Jangbi is likely to never get past this slump. Why send out people with utterly no chance of winning their game unless the other team sends out a random scrub?
compassion or they just don't want him switch to SC2)))
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Sometimes the best way to learn how to swim is to throw yourself into the deep end of the pool. Jangbi(relearn how to swim).
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Taiwan619 Posts
it seems the days of the twin cannons are gone :\
goddamit
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Sea. What a baller. I need to see that ace match. Good stuff MBC.
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Russian Federation3329 Posts
i love the new banners!!! they're sooo funny!!!! poor stork... they should've sent him instead!!!
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