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Anomarad
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada565 Posts
October 20 2010 07:30 GMT
#541
On October 20 2010 16:26 Ryo wrote:
January's fault. Can't understand why coaches wld send slumping players in for the ace match only to get further crushed in confidence.


Exactly... poor guy is on a 7 loss streak now. Hope he doesn't get discouraged.

January is still awesome though. <3
mustaju
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Estonia4505 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-20 07:34:15
October 20 2010 07:32 GMT
#542
I do get wanting to give additional playtime to players without whom competing is pointless anyway. KHAN won't start performing unless Jangbi gets his act together. Oz won't start performing till all those pseudo B-teamers start playing as their position demands it to. I'm willing to bet that at the end of the season, we'll see some major improvement on both teams.
EDIT: Obligatory and well-deserved thank you to both Grobyc and Chaos for streaming! (Please let me know ahead of time next time, if you can. It isn't fun not knowing whether there'll be a stream.)
WriterBrows somewhat high. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndFysO2JunE
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
October 20 2010 07:33 GMT
#543
Man, Sea's TvP looks really, really scary. O_o

Jangbi is so far away from the level of his prime. Makes me sad to see. And I do not understand at all why he was sent out for the ace game since they have the best PvT'er in the world in the team. Like, sometimes it makes sort of sense to send out a ''sniper'' in ace games, but sending out an inferior player of the same race is just...

This could've been such a great comeback. It gives a little hope though, to see that Samsung are capable of taking things to ace. If they just send Stork next time...
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Fenrax
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States5018 Posts
October 20 2010 07:34 GMT
#544
On October 20 2010 16:30 Anomarad wrote:
January is still awesome though. <3


Why? Because she is a woman? The decision to send Jangbi is pure incompetence and it did cost Khan a possible victory. The reasonable thing to do would be to deprive of authority whoever was responsible for that decision and employ someone who does not make retarded decisions.
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
October 20 2010 07:35 GMT
#545
On October 20 2010 16:30 Anomarad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2010 16:26 Ryo wrote:
January's fault. Can't understand why coaches wld send slumping players in for the ace match only to get further crushed in confidence.


Exactly... poor guy is on a 7 loss streak now. Hope he doesn't get discouraged.

January is still awesome though. <3


He'll shld recover, Khan hasn't played ACE or Oz yet. Even Jaehoon managed to start winning again (well sort of) after Coach Ha kept sending him as ace player last season.

+ Show Spoiler +

Actually I suspect that's one reason why the players lodged a complaint against Coach Ha.
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
Anomarad
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada565 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-20 07:43:05
October 20 2010 07:41 GMT
#546
On October 20 2010 16:34 Fenrax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2010 16:30 Anomarad wrote:
January is still awesome though. <3


Why? Because she is a woman? The decision to send Jangbi is pure incompetence and it did cost Khan a possible victory. The reasonable thing to do would be to deprive of authority whoever was responsible for that decision and employ someone who does not make retarded decisions.


No, because she would threaten to quit her job for a player on her team to keep his current salary... or argue with referee's for an hour on live tv about a map bug that messed up her players build. Her team doesn't get lot of money, so it's hard to always show good results. I do agree that sending Jangbi out today was a huge blunder though. Not sure what she was trying to accomplish.
Rio
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Vietnam598 Posts
October 20 2010 07:44 GMT
#547
Fuck No stork no win
What ever ---------------------------------------------------™
OpticalShot
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada6330 Posts
October 20 2010 07:49 GMT
#548
Sigh my internet disconnects RIGHT when match begins, and it's back now.
I suppose that was God's intervention to prevent me from killing myself.

As said above... NO STORK NO WIN
[TLMS] REBOOT
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
October 20 2010 07:59 GMT
#549
On October 20 2010 16:41 Anomarad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2010 16:34 Fenrax wrote:
On October 20 2010 16:30 Anomarad wrote:
January is still awesome though. <3


Why? Because she is a woman? The decision to send Jangbi is pure incompetence and it did cost Khan a possible victory. The reasonable thing to do would be to deprive of authority whoever was responsible for that decision and employ someone who does not make retarded decisions.


No, because she would threaten to quit her job for a player on her team to keep his current salary... or argue with referee's for an hour on live tv about a map bug that messed up her players build. Her team doesn't get lot of money, so it's hard to always show good results. I do agree that sending Jangbi out today was a huge blunder though. Not sure what she was trying to accomplish.

Probably trying to do the good ole' strategy where you send a slumping player to an ACE match and hope they win so that it reinvigorates them and shit.. but in this case it backfired pretty horrednously
Writerptrk
vectorix108
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4633 Posts
October 20 2010 08:13 GMT
#550
god... i love jangbi and watching him play and all, but it was just painful tonight to see him lose like that.
poor guy, i can just imagine his confidence level plummet....
Aka XephyR/Shaneyesss
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
October 20 2010 08:15 GMT
#551
On October 20 2010 16:59 ArvickHero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2010 16:41 Anomarad wrote:
On October 20 2010 16:34 Fenrax wrote:
On October 20 2010 16:30 Anomarad wrote:
January is still awesome though. <3


Why? Because she is a woman? The decision to send Jangbi is pure incompetence and it did cost Khan a possible victory. The reasonable thing to do would be to deprive of authority whoever was responsible for that decision and employ someone who does not make retarded decisions.


No, because she would threaten to quit her job for a player on her team to keep his current salary... or argue with referee's for an hour on live tv about a map bug that messed up her players build. Her team doesn't get lot of money, so it's hard to always show good results. I do agree that sending Jangbi out today was a huge blunder though. Not sure what she was trying to accomplish.

Probably trying to do the good ole' strategy where you send a slumping player to an ACE match and hope they win so that it reinvigorates them and shit.. but in this case it backfired pretty horrednously


oh yeah, same strategy Coach Cho tried with Killer... has it ever worked?
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
October 20 2010 08:29 GMT
#552
On October 20 2010 17:15 Ryo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2010 16:59 ArvickHero wrote:
On October 20 2010 16:41 Anomarad wrote:
On October 20 2010 16:34 Fenrax wrote:
On October 20 2010 16:30 Anomarad wrote:
January is still awesome though. <3


Why? Because she is a woman? The decision to send Jangbi is pure incompetence and it did cost Khan a possible victory. The reasonable thing to do would be to deprive of authority whoever was responsible for that decision and employ someone who does not make retarded decisions.


No, because she would threaten to quit her job for a player on her team to keep his current salary... or argue with referee's for an hour on live tv about a map bug that messed up her players build. Her team doesn't get lot of money, so it's hard to always show good results. I do agree that sending Jangbi out today was a huge blunder though. Not sure what she was trying to accomplish.

Probably trying to do the good ole' strategy where you send a slumping player to an ACE match and hope they win so that it reinvigorates them and shit.. but in this case it backfired pretty horrednously


oh yeah, same strategy Coach Cho tried with Killer... has it ever worked?


Well Coach Cho from CJ , a lot of times sends the player who lost in his regular game to play the Ace match and had good success with it .
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-20 08:53:41
October 20 2010 08:50 GMT
#553
On October 20 2010 17:29 raga4ka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2010 17:15 Ryo wrote:
On October 20 2010 16:59 ArvickHero wrote:
On October 20 2010 16:41 Anomarad wrote:
On October 20 2010 16:34 Fenrax wrote:
On October 20 2010 16:30 Anomarad wrote:
January is still awesome though. <3


Why? Because she is a woman? The decision to send Jangbi is pure incompetence and it did cost Khan a possible victory. The reasonable thing to do would be to deprive of authority whoever was responsible for that decision and employ someone who does not make retarded decisions.


No, because she would threaten to quit her job for a player on her team to keep his current salary... or argue with referee's for an hour on live tv about a map bug that messed up her players build. Her team doesn't get lot of money, so it's hard to always show good results. I do agree that sending Jangbi out today was a huge blunder though. Not sure what she was trying to accomplish.

Probably trying to do the good ole' strategy where you send a slumping player to an ACE match and hope they win so that it reinvigorates them and shit.. but in this case it backfired pretty horrednously


oh yeah, same strategy Coach Cho tried with Killer... has it ever worked?


Well Coach Cho from CJ , a lot of times sends the player who lost in his regular game to play the Ace match and had good success with it .


Apples and oranges.

CJ sent out people who were capable to winning their games. Even if Skyhigh loses his game, if you send him out against a terran heavy lineup, chances are he's not going to embarrass himself if he gets to play a terran.

Sending Jaehoon. Killer, and Jangbi is not the same as CJ sending out a decent player. These people are seriously worthless right now (Jaehoon can't forge expand correctly, Killer gets crushed by Skyhigh in TvZ, and Jangbi's PvT is one of the worst among protoss players right now) and sending them out as the team's ace is not going to achieve anything.

Because ultimately Jaehoon and Killer are never going to become good and Jangbi is likely to never get past this slump. Why send out people with utterly no chance of winning their game unless the other team sends out a random scrub?
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3019 Posts
October 20 2010 09:19 GMT
#554
I know it's been a long time since he was an elite PvT player, but it's still incredible to me how far Jangbi has fallen in the matchup. He just seemed so utterly and completely dominant at it once upon a time (and has an insane PvT peak ELO to show for it).
letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-20 12:06:21
October 20 2010 09:19 GMT
#555
On October 20 2010 17:50 Womwomwom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2010 17:29 raga4ka wrote:
On October 20 2010 17:15 Ryo wrote:
On October 20 2010 16:59 ArvickHero wrote:
On October 20 2010 16:41 Anomarad wrote:
On October 20 2010 16:34 Fenrax wrote:
On October 20 2010 16:30 Anomarad wrote:
January is still awesome though. <3


Why? Because she is a woman? The decision to send Jangbi is pure incompetence and it did cost Khan a possible victory. The reasonable thing to do would be to deprive of authority whoever was responsible for that decision and employ someone who does not make retarded decisions.


No, because she would threaten to quit her job for a player on her team to keep his current salary... or argue with referee's for an hour on live tv about a map bug that messed up her players build. Her team doesn't get lot of money, so it's hard to always show good results. I do agree that sending Jangbi out today was a huge blunder though. Not sure what she was trying to accomplish.

Probably trying to do the good ole' strategy where you send a slumping player to an ACE match and hope they win so that it reinvigorates them and shit.. but in this case it backfired pretty horrednously


oh yeah, same strategy Coach Cho tried with Killer... has it ever worked?


Well Coach Cho from CJ , a lot of times sends the player who lost in his regular game to play the Ace match and had good success with it .


Apples and oranges.

CJ sent out people who were capable to winning their games. Even if Skyhigh loses his game, if you send him out against a terran heavy lineup, chances are he's not going to embarrass himself if he gets to play a terran.

Sending Jaehoon. Killer, and Jangbi is not the same as CJ sending out a decent player. These people are seriously worthless right now (Jaehoon can't forge expand correctly, Killer gets crushed by Skyhigh in TvZ, and Jangbi's PvT is one of the worst among protoss players right now) and sending them out as the team's ace is not going to achieve anything.

Because ultimately Jaehoon and Killer are never going to become good and Jangbi is likely to never get past this slump. Why send out people with utterly no chance of winning their game unless the other team sends out a random scrub?


compassion or they just don't want him switch to SC2)))
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
October 20 2010 10:19 GMT
#556
Sometimes the best way to learn how to swim is to throw yourself into the deep end of the pool. Jangbi(relearn how to swim).
pathy
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Taiwan619 Posts
October 20 2010 10:27 GMT
#557
it seems the days of the twin cannons are gone
:\

goddamit
Graphicscolosi suck
Rinrun
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada3509 Posts
October 20 2010 10:43 GMT
#558
Sea. What a baller. I need to see that ace match. Good stuff MBC.
MBC/Liquid/TSM always.
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13081 Posts
October 20 2010 10:59 GMT
#559
Well at least Stok won
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
Bisu-Fan
Profile Joined January 2010
Russian Federation3339 Posts
October 20 2010 12:17 GMT
#560
i love the new banners!!! they're sooo funny!!!!
poor stork... they should've sent him instead!!!
The Revolutionist Shall Rise Again! No. 1 Kim Taek Yong Fan 어헣↗ GO JAEDONG!!!!!!! GO ACE!!! 태연 <3 윤아 <3 승연 <3
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