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SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
October 02 2010 23:40 GMT
#1161
On October 03 2010 08:38 Holgerius wrote:
Did anyone seriously think that JD was winning at any point in that game?


Neither was Flash.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
infinity2k9
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom2397 Posts
October 02 2010 23:40 GMT
#1162
Once the high ground outside mineral only is gained i don't see how you are supposed to play against mech from there. 4 bases easily held and you can just push out towards 6 and 12 with ease. I think a muta switch would have been good after the amazing scourge usage killing like 6 vessels, but even that is weak and 2 rounds of goliaths pumped out will again clean up.
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8552 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-02 23:40:37
October 02 2010 23:40 GMT
#1163
On October 03 2010 08:39 Cambium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2010 08:38 Garrl wrote:
On October 03 2010 08:36 Cambium wrote:
On October 03 2010 08:35 Garrl wrote:
On October 03 2010 08:34 Lightwip wrote:
Flash pretty much outmacroed this game. Pretty good game, but I'm not too partial to mech play.


He outmacroed despite having about 2.7k mins the entire game (even after building 9999 turrets)?


You need to look at his GAS, which was never over 500.


While that's true, look at JD's macro at the same time. He had more bases and still had low minerals and gas.


I don't know what stream you were watching, but JD's gas was constantly over 1000 (low minerals).

I mean if he was massing hydras, then you need to look at MINERALS, until the end where he had defilers and so he could use lurkers, and his gas went down too. So why do you say Flash pretty much outmacroed?
Jaedong
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
October 02 2010 23:40 GMT
#1164
On October 03 2010 08:37 SuperArc wrote:
The only difference between those two players is race, really.

I mean they both defended so incredibly well. But terran is just more cost-effective.

Don't start with the imba nonsense. -__-
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Demand2k
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Norway875 Posts
October 02 2010 23:40 GMT
#1165
What map is this?
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11061 Posts
October 02 2010 23:40 GMT
#1166
who is that in kt gear that they just showed?
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
October 02 2010 23:40 GMT
#1167
On October 03 2010 08:38 Garrl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2010 08:36 Cambium wrote:
On October 03 2010 08:35 Garrl wrote:
On October 03 2010 08:34 Lightwip wrote:
Flash pretty much outmacroed this game. Pretty good game, but I'm not too partial to mech play.


He outmacroed despite having about 2.7k mins the entire game (even after building 9999 turrets)?


You need to look at his GAS, which was never over 500.


While that's true, look at JD's macro at the same time. He had more bases and still had low minerals and gas.

...again, you clearly have no experience playing (or playing against) mech. Gas matters, minerals don't. Flash's macro was top notch. Minerals are used for vultures (which he did, over time) but its normal to have them stack up.

Zerg doesn't have that issue, since cracklings are still used a lot in the lategame, thus minerals are in demand (though gas still is more).

You're complaining that flash's macro was bad cause he had minerals saved up when meching??
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-02 23:41:46
October 02 2010 23:40 GMT
#1168
On October 03 2010 08:40 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2010 08:39 Cambium wrote:
On October 03 2010 08:38 Garrl wrote:
On October 03 2010 08:36 Cambium wrote:
On October 03 2010 08:35 Garrl wrote:
On October 03 2010 08:34 Lightwip wrote:
Flash pretty much outmacroed this game. Pretty good game, but I'm not too partial to mech play.


He outmacroed despite having about 2.7k mins the entire game (even after building 9999 turrets)?


You need to look at his GAS, which was never over 500.


While that's true, look at JD's macro at the same time. He had more bases and still had low minerals and gas.


I don't know what stream you were watching, but JD's gas was constantly over 1000 (low minerals).

I mean if he was massing hydras, then you need to look at MINERALS, until the end where he had defilers and so he could use lurkers, and his gas went down too. So why do you say Flash pretty much outmacroed?

I never said that. I just don't think Flash's macro was off...

Also, to what you were saying: If Flash was massing tanks and gollies, you need to look at GAS. :O
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
October 02 2010 23:41 GMT
#1169
I'm talking about his tank push.
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
October 02 2010 23:41 GMT
#1170
On October 03 2010 08:38 encryptedamf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2010 08:35 Cashout wrote:
lol sc2 is not even half as good as bw ....


oviously you didnt watch the GSL

Did you come in here just to find when people talk about sc2?
Also, I did watch the GSL, it's not all that good.
Also, to whoever was talking about it earlier, mech is pretty gas heavy and not that mineral heavy.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
October 02 2010 23:41 GMT
#1171
On October 03 2010 08:40 sixfour wrote:
who is that in kt gear that they just showed?


The coach?
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
okum
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France5778 Posts
October 02 2010 23:41 GMT
#1172
On October 03 2010 08:40 SuperArc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2010 08:38 Holgerius wrote:
Did anyone seriously think that JD was winning at any point in that game?


Neither was Flash.

Flash is winning as long as the opponent isn't. That's how mech works, it's how Flash works, and doubly so how they work in combination.
Flash fan before it was cool | Coiner of "jangbang"
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
October 02 2010 23:41 GMT
#1173
On October 03 2010 08:40 Holgerius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2010 08:37 SuperArc wrote:
The only difference between those two players is race, really.

I mean they both defended so incredibly well. But terran is just more cost-effective.

Don't start with the imba nonsense. -__-


I am not. I am just saying both had better defense than offense.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
Cheeseburgered
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States716 Posts
October 02 2010 23:41 GMT
#1174
please go bio flash

mech is zzz hold attacks until zerg starves
CJ Entusman #58 | Gogogo Stats
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11061 Posts
October 02 2010 23:41 GMT
#1175
jd 12 hatching, sending out drone scout

flash with rax going up
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
Altern
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1053 Posts
October 02 2010 23:41 GMT
#1176
On October 03 2010 08:39 sixfour wrote:
please let's not let the thread dissolve into a bw vs sc2 shitfest

game starting

jaedong 5
flash 10

Seriously. I enjoy watching both equally
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
October 02 2010 23:42 GMT
#1177
yeaaaa jd/flash
Forever Young
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
October 02 2010 23:42 GMT
#1178
LOL at the fan who waited 19 years to watch Flash's game (when Flash is 18 years old :p)
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
Cheeseburgered
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States716 Posts
October 02 2010 23:42 GMT
#1179
On October 03 2010 08:41 Grettin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2010 08:40 sixfour wrote:
who is that in kt gear that they just showed?


The coach?


that was KT's coach / manager
CJ Entusman #58 | Gogogo Stats
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
October 02 2010 23:42 GMT
#1180
On October 03 2010 08:40 Holgerius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2010 08:37 SuperArc wrote:
The only difference between those two players is race, really.

I mean they both defended so incredibly well. But terran is just more cost-effective.

Don't start with the imba nonsense. -__-

Terran pretty much is more cost-effective. But Z/P have more ability to get more stuff.
It's not imba, just the truth honestly.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
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