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Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
July 22 2010 11:06 GMT
#681
why didnt you just play standard,,,,
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
purpose
Profile Joined May 2008
Sweden1017 Posts
July 22 2010 11:06 GMT
#682
This game feelt more like Bisu played bad and let Sea win, rather then Sea beein super good and beating gay carriers on a protoss map. If Bisu would have done his job he should not lose a game like this.
Pioneer
Profile Joined December 2008
994 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-22 11:07:39
July 22 2010 11:06 GMT
#683
On July 22 2010 20:04 ArvickHero wrote:
I think the turning point was that botched attack at the Tank/Goliath/mine/supply line.. it seemed like Bisu had way too little Zealots. If he had more Zealots and he flanked w/ some forces on the side he would've crushed Sea with that attack..

I would just like to treat this as Bisu not practicing for this but rather for the Playoffs, and this is a mind game to make Wemade think Bisu is beatable :\

The turning point was Bisu not pressuring any of Sea's expos besides mid right* and basically letting Sea go base for base with him.
matjlav
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany2435 Posts
July 22 2010 11:06 GMT
#684
On July 22 2010 20:03 purpose wrote:
Seemed like Bisu was to hot to push down on Seas turret line. Sea could just sit there and defend and mass up golis.

Was it seas positioning that was great, or was Bisu just playing really really bad?


It was more just the fact that Bisu played exactly how Sea wanted him to, suiciding his army into that huge barricade of tanks, depots, mines, turrets, and goliaths.

It really attests to the carrier imba on this map that Bisu actually came close to breaking through -_-
Noxide
Profile Joined July 2009
United States2870 Posts
July 22 2010 11:07 GMT
#685
Fantasy should win this but this is a team match so might be some weird results. Let's hope not.
Flash ひなの戦争の王である || しかし、実際にはヤフーの ファンタジーサッカー、楽しいプレー私の週末を占めている
Mortician
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Bulgaria2332 Posts
July 22 2010 11:08 GMT
#686
What's up with the teammate vs teammate in this MSL
"If anything, the skill cap in sc2 is higher [than sc1] because there are a lot more things you can do at one given time. " darmousseh
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11061 Posts
July 22 2010 11:08 GMT
#687
let's go hyuk, 4 pool him
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
setzer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3284 Posts
July 22 2010 11:08 GMT
#688
sea won without doing anything
Murderotica
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Vatican City State2594 Posts
July 22 2010 11:08 GMT
#689
On July 22 2010 20:06 matjlav wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2010 20:03 purpose wrote:
Seemed like Bisu was to hot to push down on Seas turret line. Sea could just sit there and defend and mass up golis.

Was it seas positioning that was great, or was Bisu just playing really really bad?


It was more just the fact that Bisu played exactly how Sea wanted him to, suiciding his army into that huge barricade of tanks, depots, mines, turrets, and goliaths.

It really attests to the carrier imba on this map that Bisu actually came close to breaking through -_-

Yea you're right, any map where carriers stand a chance against goliaths is imbalanced. Everyone knows that in most situations goliaths out-gay the carriers.
ǝsnoɥ ssɐlƃ ɐ uı sǝuoʇs ʍoɹɥʇ ʇ,uop || sıʇɹoɟ ɹǝdɯǝs
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-22 11:11:06
July 22 2010 11:09 GMT
#690
On July 22 2010 20:06 Pioneer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2010 20:04 ArvickHero wrote:
I think the turning point was that botched attack at the Tank/Goliath/mine/supply line.. it seemed like Bisu had way too little Zealots. If he had more Zealots and he flanked w/ some forces on the side he would've crushed Sea with that attack..

I would just like to treat this as Bisu not practicing for this but rather for the Playoffs, and this is a mind game to make Wemade think Bisu is beatable :\

The turning point was Bisu not pressuring any of Sea's expos besides mid left and basically letting Sea go base for base with him.

I think Bisu's build was designed in mind to kill Sea in one blow, or completely cripple him like he did vs Mind. If you notice, Bisu did the same type of Carrier/Dragoon/Zealot attack vs Mind and it worked pretty damn well. If it were not for the supply depots, Sea would've been in some seriously deep trouble. Bisu simply didn't really know what to do after his attacked failed, presumably because I don't think he really uses carriers the same way other progamers do at all.. which is bad.
Writerptrk
Noxide
Profile Joined July 2009
United States2870 Posts
July 22 2010 11:09 GMT
#691
On July 22 2010 20:08 setzer wrote:
sea won without doing anything


Taking out the double gas was pretty huge, missed that?
Flash ひなの戦争の王である || しかし、実際にはヤフーの ファンタジーサッカー、楽しいプレー私の週末を占めている
p14c
Profile Joined May 2010
Vatican City State431 Posts
July 22 2010 11:10 GMT
#692
Archons lol! No Arbiters! No Storm! To few ground units! Banging his head against the wall in the same place the entire game...Weird! Anyway I'm not a Bisu fan so GG Sea!
Game Over, Man! Game Over!
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
July 22 2010 11:11 GMT
#693
On July 22 2010 20:08 Murderotica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2010 20:06 matjlav wrote:
On July 22 2010 20:03 purpose wrote:
Seemed like Bisu was to hot to push down on Seas turret line. Sea could just sit there and defend and mass up golis.

Was it seas positioning that was great, or was Bisu just playing really really bad?


It was more just the fact that Bisu played exactly how Sea wanted him to, suiciding his army into that huge barricade of tanks, depots, mines, turrets, and goliaths.

It really attests to the carrier imba on this map that Bisu actually came close to breaking through -_-

Yea you're right, any map where carriers stand a chance against goliaths is imbalanced. Everyone knows that in most situations goliaths out-gay the carriers.

Your third "goliaths are imba" post in this thread....stop talking rubbish

Looking forward to fantasy hyuking himself :D
Yhamm is the god of predictions
chongu
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Malaysia2585 Posts
July 22 2010 11:11 GMT
#694
Teamkill!! no sweeter kill : L.. fantasy gogogog!!1
SC2 is to BW, what coke is to wine.
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
July 22 2010 11:11 GMT
#695
I wonder what Bisu's goal in taking the double gas was if he didn't make any templar. If you're going pure Carrier/Zealot/Goon why not take the expansions on the left with more minerals?
Remember Violet.
Noxide
Profile Joined July 2009
United States2870 Posts
July 22 2010 11:12 GMT
#696
Fantasy White 7
Hyuk Teal 1
Flash ひなの戦争の王である || しかし、実際にはヤフーの ファンタジーサッカー、楽しいプレー私の週末を占めている
Ciryandor
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3735 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-22 11:13:15
July 22 2010 11:12 GMT
#697
Bisu could have won that had he forced Sea to be out of position with his Carriers. He did have enough Dragoons and Zealots to bust through; sniping the outer Turrents then dropping speed Zeals on Sea's mined up tank line would have busted that defense IMO. That was a multi-tasking loss for him/not to mention the lack of a follow-up had that failed.
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Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-22 11:12:32
July 22 2010 11:12 GMT
#698
Time for the teammates to show whose Fighting Spirit is stronger!
Fantasy the terrorist white terran at 7
Hyuk the hyuking teal zerg at 1
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
setzer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3284 Posts
July 22 2010 11:12 GMT
#699
On July 22 2010 20:09 Noxide wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2010 20:08 setzer wrote:
sea won without doing anything


Taking out the double gas was pretty huge, missed that?


<Insert another Idraism>

Yeah I saw that. Sea played really well after losing 4 tanks to that timing attack. Questionable decision by Bisu to even expand there as well as going carriers ...
Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
July 22 2010 11:12 GMT
#700
it's time for bad TvZ vs dreadful ZvT
BW is back
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