Hwasin < Flash Sea < Free Midas > Jangbi great < Movie
**predictions may not reflect reality
Hwasin doesn't win meaningful games, and he has the misfortune over being paired with that one terran that wins a lot of games or whatever. Sea vs Free is a toss up in my mind, though most of TL will root for Sea and he could very well tap into that positive energy. Oh yes. I don't know what to say about Midas vs Jangbi. Midas is on the upswing, and suddenly Jangbi is much better at PvZ than PvT recently, but Midas isn't too hot vs protoss these days, so who knows? Great is actually becoming pretty solid in his play. However, I fully respect Movie's PvZ and expect him to take down the first game and eventually the series.
Some great games in store tonight. Especially can't wait for Sea vs Free and Midas Vs Jangbi. In both of those games, one oldie is guaranteed to be in the Ro8 of this MSL :D
Other than Flash, these matches are pretty hard to call...most of the players are playing their strong matchups, all are >50% in the matchup they'll be playing, and many are >60%.
I like the leapfrogging drops on match point, so strong. First siege a bunch of tanks on the low-ground nat abuse area. Then ferry a few tanks over the cliff. Then ferry the rest over.
Hwasin casually puts on his jacket in the waiting area. Doesn't look too disappointed. But I guess if he was a realist he didn't come into the match thinking he'd win.
Oh btw, commentators were talking about Hwasin's Ro16 failures due to him meeting the best players of that time, or taekbangleesang. This time around? No exceptions.
On April 17 2010 17:24 supernovamaniac wrote: Oh btw, commentators were talking about Hwasin's Ro16 failures due to him meeting the best players of that time, or taekbangleesang. This time around? No exceptions.
Hwasin hasn't been too lucky in his career. However, to win starleagues you eventually have to beat the best players of your era and he simply can't do it. With a bit more luck he would have made some more RO8, RO4 maybe
Paranoid Flash fans... wait till he loses more than 2 games in a row, or gets eliminated from a league, THEN you can start posting nonsense.
Besides, players will eventually start catching up. In happens with all great players. Then he'll have to re-reinvent terran and we'll go through this all over again.
On April 17 2010 17:20 Malinor wrote: What a sloppy game
Perfect from flash, except one thing. THe wraiths he lost in the middle. Everything else was flawless... wouldn't call it a sloppy game from flash. If he'd have his wraiths alive the small timing hwasin had never would have occurred,.,
On April 17 2010 17:24 Holgerius wrote: I agree with SuperArc, Flash is burning out.
I hope this isn't sarcasm. -_-
But I just think that three months ago Flash was uber happy about every single win. Now he's like "gg, have to go practice again".
This is how the first burnout started early 2009.
his first burnout was from just doing the same thing he'd been doing, assuming his 14cc system would work forever. When it stopped working, he had to keep playing tons of games and didn't have the time to figure out what was wrong. After an offseason, he rethought his game, came back refreshed and with a desire to put up new strategies and started winning again.
On April 17 2010 17:20 Malinor wrote: What a sloppy game
Perfect from flash, except one thing. THe wraiths he lost in the middle. Everything else was flawless... wouldn't call it a sloppy game from flash. If he'd have his wraiths alive the small timing hwasin had never would have occurred,.,
Yeah well, I was expecting more from the game and was dissapointed. Flashs mistakes happened as he already was miles ahead (minus the early vulture loss), so it was of course no big deal. Hwasins play was just bad all around. He dealt very badly with Flashs opening, even after scouting it. It really took no genius to hunt down those uncloaked wraiths which had nowhere to go.
On April 17 2010 17:28 MountainDewJunkie wrote: Paranoid Flash fans... wait till he loses more than 2 games in a row, or gets eliminated from a league, THEN you can start posting nonsense.
Besides, players will eventually start catching up. In happens with all great players. Then he'll have to re-reinvent terran and we'll go through this all over again.
Uhh, no Flash fan said anything. SuperArc isn't a Flash fan, and the actual Flash fans were just mocking him sarcastically.
On April 17 2010 17:28 MountainDewJunkie wrote: Paranoid Flash fans... wait till he loses more than 2 games in a row, or gets eliminated from a league, THEN you can start posting nonsense.
Besides, players will eventually start catching up. In happens with all great players. Then he'll have to re-reinvent terran and we'll go through this all over again.
Uhh, no Flash fan said anything. SuperArc isn't a Flash fan, and the actual Flash fans were just mocking him sarcastically.
On April 17 2010 17:34 Lann555 wrote: Fuck, my two favorite remaining players in this MSL facing each other (already accepted that Fantasy will be out). Who to root for?
On April 17 2010 17:28 MountainDewJunkie wrote: Paranoid Flash fans... wait till he loses more than 2 games in a row, or gets eliminated from a league, THEN you can start posting nonsense.
Besides, players will eventually start catching up. In happens with all great players. Then he'll have to re-reinvent terran and we'll go through this all over again.
Uhh, no Flash fan said anything. SuperArc isn't a Flash fan, and the actual Flash fans were just mocking him sarcastically.
On April 17 2010 17:34 Lann555 wrote: Fuck, my two favorite remaining players in this MSL facing each other (already accepted that Fantasy will be out). Who to root for?
On April 17 2010 17:28 MountainDewJunkie wrote: Paranoid Flash fans... wait till he loses more than 2 games in a row, or gets eliminated from a league, THEN you can start posting nonsense.
Besides, players will eventually start catching up. In happens with all great players. Then he'll have to re-reinvent terran and we'll go through this all over again.
Uhh, no Flash fan said anything. SuperArc isn't a Flash fan, and the actual Flash fans were just mocking him sarcastically.
You don't need a KT tag to be a Flash fan.
Duh. I'm a Flash fan without a KT tag.
Look up SuperArc's posting history and tell me he's a Flash fan.
On April 17 2010 17:28 MountainDewJunkie wrote: Paranoid Flash fans... wait till he loses more than 2 games in a row, or gets eliminated from a league, THEN you can start posting nonsense.
Besides, players will eventually start catching up. In happens with all great players. Then he'll have to re-reinvent terran and we'll go through this all over again.
Uhh, no Flash fan said anything. SuperArc isn't a Flash fan, and the actual Flash fans were just mocking him sarcastically.
You mean everyone hasn't figured out he's a troll yet?
On April 17 2010 17:13 JSH wrote: Flash finds the 12 oclock proxy starport
maphack obv
but seriously what game sense
Don't you guy see that the cube's glass is transparent?
The players could cheat either by looking to the screen or looking for "mirror" by reflection without turning their heads.
I am pretty sure Flash use it as advantage.
He plays good but without the "maphack", he is no different from others.....
Anyone notice they could cheat???
I hope you're just trolling.
I am actually flash's fan. If they could seal the cube up, i would say it is a more fair game for everyone.
Dude it's not transparent towards the big screen, just towards the crowd. And after playing thousands of games on a map I'm pretty sure the event of hiding wraiths have occurred before when going noncloak vs cloak.
On April 17 2010 17:28 MountainDewJunkie wrote: Paranoid Flash fans... wait till he loses more than 2 games in a row, or gets eliminated from a league, THEN you can start posting nonsense.
Besides, players will eventually start catching up. In happens with all great players. Then he'll have to re-reinvent terran and we'll go through this all over again.
Uhh, no Flash fan said anything. SuperArc isn't a Flash fan, and the actual Flash fans were just mocking him sarcastically.
You mean everyone hasn't figured out he's a troll yet?
Troll implies he knows what's going on and is intentionally saying stupid things. I'm actually more inclined to believe that he's not that bright.
On April 17 2010 17:13 JSH wrote: Flash finds the 12 oclock proxy starport
maphack obv
but seriously what game sense
Don't you guy see that the cube's glass is transparent?
The players could cheat either by looking to the screen or looking for "mirror" by reflection without turning their heads.
I am pretty sure Flash use it as advantage.
He plays good but without the "maphack", he is no different from others.....
Anyone notice they could cheat???
I hope you're just trolling.
I am actually flash's fan. If they could seal the cube up, i would say it is a more fair game for everyone.
Dude it's not transparent towards the big screen, just towards the crowd. And after playing thousands of games on a map I'm pretty sure the event of hiding wraiths have occurred before when going noncloak vs cloak.
troll or not lol
Normal game does not have the shade between the player and the Big Center Screen.
It is not just from this game. I have been watching Flash's game. He is just too good at predicting some events.
All I am saying is , put that shade up for all game. That would be fair for everyone. If flash is really that good, he should still be good even with the shade up.
hmm, free's interest in teching seems to have limited the amount of follow-up pressure he could generate, particularly in denying sea's third. I wonder if he created a significant enough timing opening for arbiters to be just as effective.
On April 17 2010 17:28 MountainDewJunkie wrote: Paranoid Flash fans... wait till he loses more than 2 games in a row, or gets eliminated from a league, THEN you can start posting nonsense.
Besides, players will eventually start catching up. In happens with all great players. Then he'll have to re-reinvent terran and we'll go through this all over again.
Uhh, no Flash fan said anything. SuperArc isn't a Flash fan, and the actual Flash fans were just mocking him sarcastically.
You mean everyone hasn't figured out he's a troll yet?
Troll implies he knows what's going on and is intentionally saying stupid things. I'm actually more inclined to believe that he's not that bright.
for the first month or two, I gave him the benefit of the doubt
On April 17 2010 17:13 JSH wrote: Flash finds the 12 oclock proxy starport
maphack obv
but seriously what game sense
Don't you guy see that the cube's glass is transparent?
The players could cheat either by looking to the screen or looking for "mirror" by reflection without turning their heads.
I am pretty sure Flash use it as advantage.
He plays good but without the "maphack", he is no different from others.....
Anyone notice they could cheat???
I hope you're just trolling.
I am actually flash's fan. If they could seal the cube up, i would say it is a more fair game for everyone.
Dude it's not transparent towards the big screen, just towards the crowd. And after playing thousands of games on a map I'm pretty sure the event of hiding wraiths have occurred before when going noncloak vs cloak.
troll or not lol
Normal game does not have the shade between the player and the Big Center Screen.
It is not just from this game. I have been watching Flash's game. He is just too good at predicting some events.
All I am saying is , put that shade up for all game. That would be fair for everyone. If flash is really that good, he should still be good even with the shade up.
The players can never see the big screen. End of discussion:/
What a horrible, horrible game by Sea. I love the guy, but he just plays like trash. If he had just defended his third he would have been in a good position
Well, hmm, this is why I hate split Bo3's. These one-sided game 1s leave a bad taste in your mouth for a few days, and you're less hyped for the next two games.
On April 17 2010 17:13 JSH wrote: Flash finds the 12 oclock proxy starport
maphack obv
but seriously what game sense
Don't you guy see that the cube's glass is transparent?
The players could cheat either by looking to the screen or looking for "mirror" by reflection without turning their heads.
I am pretty sure Flash use it as advantage.
He plays good but without the "maphack", he is no different from others.....
Anyone notice they could cheat???
I hope you're just trolling.
I am actually flash's fan. If they could seal the cube up, i would say it is a more fair game for everyone.
Dude it's not transparent towards the big screen, just towards the crowd. And after playing thousands of games on a map I'm pretty sure the event of hiding wraiths have occurred before when going noncloak vs cloak.
troll or not lol
Normal game does not have the shade between the player and the Big Center Screen.
It is not just from this game. I have been watching Flash's game. He is just too good at predicting some events.
All I am saying is , put that shade up for all game. That would be fair for everyone. If flash is really that good, he should still be good even with the shade up.
The players can never see the big screen. End of discussion:/
They might not be able to see in today's setup because of shades. But normal games don't have those shades.
All I am saying it, put those shades up for normal games.
On April 17 2010 17:13 JSH wrote: Flash finds the 12 oclock proxy starport
maphack obv
but seriously what game sense
Don't you guy see that the cube's glass is transparent?
The players could cheat either by looking to the screen or looking for "mirror" by reflection without turning their heads.
I am pretty sure Flash use it as advantage.
He plays good but without the "maphack", he is no different from others.....
Anyone notice they could cheat???
I hope you're just trolling.
I am actually flash's fan. If they could seal the cube up, i would say it is a more fair game for everyone.
Dude it's not transparent towards the big screen, just towards the crowd. And after playing thousands of games on a map I'm pretty sure the event of hiding wraiths have occurred before when going noncloak vs cloak.
troll or not lol
Normal game does not have the shade between the player and the Big Center Screen.
It is not just from this game. I have been watching Flash's game. He is just too good at predicting some events.
All I am saying is , put that shade up for all game. That would be fair for everyone. If flash is really that good, he should still be good even with the shade up.
The players can never see the big screen. End of discussion:/
They might not be able to see in today's setup because of shades. But normal games don't have those shades.
All I am saying it, put those shades up for normal games.
The booths are slightly angeled towards the people. The shade (wall with sponsor commercial) is always there. The wall, thus is also angeled slightly towards the crowd and the big screen can thus not be seen. Every broadcasted game, PL or starleague, uses this kind of booths. The players can never see the screen.
On April 17 2010 17:13 JSH wrote: Flash finds the 12 oclock proxy starport
maphack obv
but seriously what game sense
Don't you guy see that the cube's glass is transparent?
The players could cheat either by looking to the screen or looking for "mirror" by reflection without turning their heads.
I am pretty sure Flash use it as advantage.
He plays good but without the "maphack", he is no different from others.....
Anyone notice they could cheat???
I hope you're just trolling.
I am actually flash's fan. If they could seal the cube up, i would say it is a more fair game for everyone.
Dude it's not transparent towards the big screen, just towards the crowd. And after playing thousands of games on a map I'm pretty sure the event of hiding wraiths have occurred before when going noncloak vs cloak.
troll or not lol
Normal game does not have the shade between the player and the Big Center Screen.
It is not just from this game. I have been watching Flash's game. He is just too good at predicting some events.
All I am saying is , put that shade up for all game. That would be fair for everyone. If flash is really that good, he should still be good even with the shade up.
The players can never see the big screen. End of discussion:/
They might not be able to see in today's setup because of shades. But normal games don't have those shades.
All I am saying it, put those shades up for normal games.
The booths are slightly angeled towards the people. The shade (wall with sponsor commercial) is always there. The wall, thus is also angeled slightly towards the crowd and the big screen can thus not be seen. Every broadcasted game, PL or starleague, uses this kind of booths. The players can never see the screen.
How come I could see the commentators through the glass in some games? I am talking those games....
On April 17 2010 17:13 JSH wrote: Flash finds the 12 oclock proxy starport
maphack obv
but seriously what game sense
Don't you guy see that the cube's glass is transparent?
The players could cheat either by looking to the screen or looking for "mirror" by reflection without turning their heads.
I am pretty sure Flash use it as advantage.
He plays good but without the "maphack", he is no different from others.....
Anyone notice they could cheat???
I hope you're just trolling.
I am actually flash's fan. If they could seal the cube up, i would say it is a more fair game for everyone.
Dude it's not transparent towards the big screen, just towards the crowd. And after playing thousands of games on a map I'm pretty sure the event of hiding wraiths have occurred before when going noncloak vs cloak.
troll or not lol
Normal game does not have the shade between the player and the Big Center Screen.
It is not just from this game. I have been watching Flash's game. He is just too good at predicting some events.
All I am saying is , put that shade up for all game. That would be fair for everyone. If flash is really that good, he should still be good even with the shade up.
The players can never see the big screen. End of discussion:/
They might not be able to see in today's setup because of shades. But normal games don't have those shades.
All I am saying it, put those shades up for normal games.
The booths are slightly angeled towards the people. The shade (wall with sponsor commercial) is always there. The wall, thus is also angeled slightly towards the crowd and the big screen can thus not be seen. Every broadcasted game, PL or starleague, uses this kind of booths. The players can never see the screen.
How come I could see the commentators through the glass in some games? I am talking those games....
I don't know, maybe the commentators are placed in an angel they can see. The booths are constructed in a way that make it impossible for the players to watch the big screen. Think about it, it's a big business. Lot's of money involved. This is an easy matter, don't you think they have thought about this before or that other players would complain if what you say is true.
Trust me, they cannot see the screen. It wouldn't work if they could.
wow tosses sometimes play so stupid its geting me so mad watching this. Then they complain the maps are bad or toss is weak well you gonna lose no matter what if you play like a retard
On April 17 2010 18:05 Lann555 wrote: Didnt Jangbi used to be good at this matchup?
It doesn't make any sense. He wasn't just good at this matchup - at his peak he was probably the best PvT player ever. He looked unstoppable in this matchup.
I don't think the matchup changed that much either. It's not like TvP or ZvT or PvZ which are more "unstable" (harder to maintain dominance in). PvT is a staple matchup for P and for the best PvT player ever to fall this much without a huge metagame shift baffles me to this day.
On April 17 2010 18:05 Lann555 wrote: Didnt Jangbi used to be good at this matchup?
It doesn't make any sense. He wasn't just good at this matchup - at his peak he was probably the best PvT player ever. He looked unstoppable in this matchup.
I don't think the matchup changed that much either. It's not like TvP or ZvT or PvZ which are more "unstable" (harder to maintain dominance in). PvT is a staple matchup for P and for the best PvT player ever to fall this much without a huge metagame shift baffles me to this day.
Is it just him though? Stork has also been losing to terrans lately and there really aren't that many PvT specialists left from what I can tell. Maybe Kal or Free would be considered best in this matchuop now?
I almost always root for Terran in TvP but at least Jangbi used to abuse the matchup the right way - seemed like he used to do every abusive thing in the matchup exactly right and you had to give him credit for that.
On April 17 2010 18:05 Lann555 wrote: Didnt Jangbi used to be good at this matchup?
It doesn't make any sense. He wasn't just good at this matchup - at his peak he was probably the best PvT player ever. He looked unstoppable in this matchup.
I don't think the matchup changed that much either. It's not like TvP or ZvT or PvZ which are more "unstable" (harder to maintain dominance in). PvT is a staple matchup for P and for the best PvT player ever to fall this much without a huge metagame shift baffles me to this day.
Well, he wasn't doing great around the time that protoss players sacrificing unit count for the arb tech became mainstream and used every game. Jangbi's style really flourished with large army battles and storming well. His macro and storm micro was what made him so strong pvt. He was also aggressive and the fast arb style of play is more passive.
What I mean to say that there was a meta game switch. It wasn't a sudden thing like the Flash build but it did happen. Jangbi was owning around the time that arbs were becoming the staple late game unit instead of carriers (due to the flash build) but still weren't rushed every single game on two base like now. They were teched towards more around the time your 3rd base was up and running and around the time you started adding mass gates. now it's tech towards arbiter around the time you're starting your natural half the time and the other half is soon after.
Expand a bunch but don't delay terran push and let him position directly outside your nat is pretty gg. He had a shot if he delayed more but oh well. Can't say this was unexpected.
On April 17 2010 18:13 Kwanroller wrote: This MSL blows hard so far. None of these games are really that good.
Matchups in the RO16 just aren't that good. The big names like Flash and Jaedong have no challenge this round. The only good matchups are Fantasy/Calm (who have a history of playing horrible games between the two) and Free/Sea who are both kinda fail in individual leagues.
I also hate this format where they play the other games on a later day. Much rather see the first 4 matchups played out on a sin gle day
Movie decision to move out with zeal/archon had some idea, but Great didn't fall for it. Would've been much better in close positons to move out and pressure.
On April 17 2010 18:38 MuffinDude wrote: Great doing what many other zergs fail to do, making enough sunkens to stop movie's initial push of speedlots and archons.
On April 17 2010 18:39 Tuke wrote: Movie decision to move out with zeal/archon had some idea, but Great didn't fall for it. Would've been much better in close positons to move out and pressure.
Uh... Movie does this like in 80% of his pvz. I just can't believe zergs are falling for it time after time.
On April 17 2010 18:42 Holgerius wrote: It's so satisfying to see Movie lose.
evil...
I play Terran, and Movie does nothing but 12 Nex or some sort of cheese every single PvT. Gimmicky Protoss players FTL (except Much)!
so did you hate Flash when he only kept doing 14ccs?
Most people did actually hate him for it.
But here its less of a "He can only win with that stuff" response and more of a "Why the fuck are you doing this Flash, you know you can easily bash the shit out of that scrub without 14CC" response.
(Why can't more fanboys be more like Realpenguin? At least he's cool about it.)
On April 17 2010 18:42 Holgerius wrote: It's so satisfying to see Movie lose.
evil...
I play Terran, and Movie does nothing but 12 Nex or some sort of cheese every single PvT. Gimmicky Protoss players FTL (except Much)!
so did you hate Flash when he only kept doing 14ccs?
Flash had already shown that he was an S-class player in every aspect of the game. Movie is bad.
You can hate him as much as you want but its really irritating seeing your joy expressed with posts everytime he loses..Atleast try to keep it in yourselft,every player deserves respect.
On April 17 2010 18:42 Holgerius wrote: It's so satisfying to see Movie lose.
evil...
I play Terran, and Movie does nothing but 12 Nex or some sort of cheese every single PvT. Gimmicky Protoss players FTL (except Much)!
so did you hate Flash when he only kept doing 14ccs?
Flash had already shown that he was an S-class player in every aspect of the game. Movie is bad.
You can hate him as much as you want but its really irritating seeing your joy expressed with posts everytime he loses..Atleast try to keep it in yourselft,every player deserves respect.
Ignore Holgerius, he's just jealous Violet/Stats don't play as good as Movie in clutch situations.
On April 17 2010 18:42 Holgerius wrote: It's so satisfying to see Movie lose.
evil...
I play Terran, and Movie does nothing but 12 Nex or some sort of cheese every single PvT. Gimmicky Protoss players FTL (except Much)!
so did you hate Flash when he only kept doing 14ccs?
Flash had already shown that he was an S-class player in every aspect of the game. Movie is bad.
You can hate him as much as you want but its really irritating seeing your joy expressed with posts everytime he loses..Atleast try to keep it in yourselft,every player deserves respect.
Come on, how boring would the forum be if we kept on ''respecting'' everybody? Just accept the fact that your favourites will have haters.
I remember that SKT vs Oz LR thread where half of the pages were filled with post-game shit because some SKT fanboys were pissed off because everyone else enjoyed watching SKT lose. XD
On April 17 2010 18:42 Holgerius wrote: It's so satisfying to see Movie lose.
evil...
I play Terran, and Movie does nothing but 12 Nex or some sort of cheese every single PvT. Gimmicky Protoss players FTL (except Much)!
According to terran players the only thing protoss ever do is chees or are being lame ass so
Some Protoss players show actual skill in several areas of the game, and most of them actually only cheese every now and then. Movie does gay shit literally every single PvT, and he has a really bad record so he's obviously not even good at that either.
On April 17 2010 18:39 Tuke wrote: Movie decision to move out with zeal/archon had some idea, but Great didn't fall for it. Would've been much better in close positons to move out and pressure.
Uh... Movie does this like in 80% of his pvz. I just can't believe zergs are falling for it time after time.
On April 18 2010 00:18 Lebesgue wrote: Midas won against Jangbi? What's wrong with Jangbi. He used to be the best PvTer in the world and now he sucks...
Just the general increase in skill, I think. Two years ago, or maybe as late as one year ago, a player could stand out by being slightly better than everyone else at one thing (say, using storms effectively in PvT). These days all decent players are so good at everything that it takes much more to win consistently even in one matchup. The recent terran surge doesn't help JangBi either. Given the circumstances, I don't think he's doing that poorly.
Just watched Movie vs Great and I expected this, I knew Great studied Movie's PvZ. I don't know how Movie was suppose to counter that built, maybe more dragoons? Movie definitely needed to make more cannons in his main and an observer in front of his natural.
Terrans love to bitch about how they get all the "gay shit" done to them as they keep on rolling over zergs. Whatever, I agree, movie sucks so much he is in the round of 8 in both leagues cause he really sucks.
Also, I remember arguing with someone how Kal is no way the undisputed best protoss right now. Hope this frees your stubbornness cause Kal just got snowed in.
What happened to JangBi? His PvZ used to be by far his weakest matchup around 50% now his PvZ is pretty much his strongest while the reverse has happened to his PvT. Did he just stop practicing PvT in favour of PvZ?
I think Jangbi said in an interview recently that PvZ is now a more fun matchup for him to play than PvT, but I dunno if that happened as a result of his PvT getting worse or not.
I wanna ask, is there are thread where I can find out, which Gamers are still in the MSL, OSL and AIR. With all this leagues this year, i am confused. I think Flash is the online one, who is still in every individual league right?
On April 20 2010 03:00 Actionshoe wrote: I wanna ask, is there are thread where I can find out, which Gamers are still in the MSL, OSL and AIR. With all this leagues this year, i am confused. I think Flash is the online one, who is still in every individual league right?
On April 17 2010 22:14 faction123 wrote: Yep. I love just about every other toss (even jaehoon), but movie just annoys me to no end for this reason. also he's ugly
Same here, I actually used to like movie before the OSL finals though. Also, you think so? I think he's actually kinda cute, just really really REALLY awkward and he does some funny faces while playing. Was it ever explained why people in CJ call him queen though?
On April 20 2010 01:45 Weasel- wrote: What happened to JangBi? His PvZ used to be by far his weakest matchup around 50% now his PvZ is pretty much his strongest while the reverse has happened to his PvT. Did he just stop practicing PvT in favour of PvZ?
This made me look at Jangbi's stat's since the start of 2010. He is 4-8 (33.3%) in PvT and 8-2 (80%-holy crap) in PvZ. Admittedly the list of terrans he has played is much more impressive than the list of zergs but still, that is really a big shift from the guy who used to have the best PvT in the world.
On April 20 2010 01:45 Weasel- wrote: What happened to JangBi? His PvZ used to be by far his weakest matchup around 50% now his PvZ is pretty much his strongest while the reverse has happened to his PvT. Did he just stop practicing PvT in favour of PvZ?
This made me look at Jangbi's stat's since the start of 2010. He is 4-8 (33.3%) in PvT and 8-2 (80%-holy crap) in PvZ. Admittedly the list of terrans he has played is much more impressive than the list of zergs but still, that is really a big shift from the guy who used to have the best PvT in the world.
I think I read an interview somewhere in which Jangbi talked about his recent success in PvZ. He said that he simply enjoyed playing PvZ more, and that the matchup and its dynamics were much more appealing to him now. He also noted that he felt the opposite way before; he loved PvT and found PvZ boring or confusing.
This is probably why Jangbi is in such a PvT slump. However, being a huge Jangbi fan from the beginning, I must say I kind of like that he is getting so good at the PvZ matchup, especially since he has been demonstrating solid PvP as well (his game vs Horang2 tonight was a must watch). I feel like he is mastering, or at least gaining a deep understanding of a match up that is currently very hard for Protoss. However, I also hope / believe that Jangbi will regain his PvT magic (and really, some of his old PvT games were pure magic) and put it all together, and then maybe he can make a run at winning a starleague.
Of course...this is if he can do this before SC2 takes over the scene...
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Horrible. 
Just accept the fact that your favourites will have haters. 
