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Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
March 11 2010 11:21 GMT
#141
skyhigh gg's

BW is back
Fx_
Profile Joined April 2008
503 Posts
March 11 2010 11:21 GMT
#142
bb sKyHigh
Power is your Intelligence
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
March 11 2010 11:21 GMT
#143
Nah, Skyhigh's aight at TvZ. Firefist CLEARLY had his Gatorade today. Played that last game like a complete hero.
God Bless
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
March 11 2010 11:22 GMT
#144
firefist all smiles as he plops himself into a chair in the waiting room and chats with what I presume to be his coach - they never show the other people in the waiting room
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11144 Posts
March 11 2010 11:23 GMT
#145
lol firefist is really good at knocking TL-loved terrans out of the msl
brood war for life, brood war forever
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
March 11 2010 11:24 GMT
#146
Yay ^_^
TranslatorBaa!
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
March 11 2010 11:25 GMT
#147
firefist's timing might have been slightly tweaked - his gas was a tad early, and skyhigh built only a few turrets

"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
gngfn
Profile Joined January 2009
United States1726 Posts
March 11 2010 11:25 GMT
#148
Skyhigh began his career 16-7 in TvZ and has since proceeded to go 7-15. (It's not like he started playing against better Zergs, either--that 16-7 includes being 2-2 vs Jaedong, whereas the latter stat has stuff like 0-2 ggaemo.)
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3017 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-11 11:31:07
March 11 2010 11:29 GMT
#149
Skyhigh's play was indefensible that game. He's got all the talent in the world as evidenced by his occasional amazing showings against the biggest names (including the only straight up win against Flash since MSL), but his inability to control his aggression and make good decisions consistently is why he's once again in zero leagues.

Just absolutely indefensible decision after meeting the Mutas in the middle to go TOWARD the Zerg base instead of going home. What was he thinking? That Firefist wouldn't just make Sunkens which he had the time to do? Skyhigh basically flipped a coin and said "I'm going to go forward and hopefully distract your Mutas into following me, but if they don't they'll ravage my insufficiently defended base". But you can't go deep in leagues (or even make them apparently) by flipping coins all the time. Why not just follow the Mutas home, hold your position (not like Skyhigh cut hard to get to that point anyway) and play out a game against a mediocre Zerg on a T > Z map?

It's a decision that Flash would NEVER have made (except that time he actually did after the power outage, but I think those were special circumstances). Until Skyhigh figures this out he's going nowhere in any league, which is really sad, because he's really fun to watch when he's on.
samachking
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Bahrain4949 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-11 11:50:19
March 11 2010 11:34 GMT
#150
On March 11 2010 20:25 gngfn wrote:
Skyhigh began his career 16-7 in TvZ and has since proceeded to go 7-15. (It's not like he started playing against better Zergs, either--that 16-7 includes being 2-2 vs Jaedong, whereas the latter stat has stuff like 0-2 ggaemo.)


Why is his 2-2 vs JD even impressive at all, did people even watch those games?
The games he won were a proxy 8rax bunker rush in the main designed to snipe him, the 2nd was a 5pool defence. One of the JD wins included a nasty queen humiliation.

On March 11 2010 20:29 darktreb wrote:
It's a decision that Flash would NEVER have made (except that time he actually did after the power outage, but I think those were special circumstances). Until Skyhigh figures this out he's going nowhere in any league, which is really sad, because he's really fun to watch when he's on.


Actually Flash was the one who brought this back into the metagame, that aggressive push vs the Muta heavy Zerg who is cutting sunks, though it works for him most of the time, it failed vs Calm in the Heartbreak ridge set.
"And then Earthlings discovered tools. Suddenly agreeing with friends could be a form of suicide or worse. But agreements went on, not for the sake of common sense, or decency, or self preservation, but for friendliness."
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
March 11 2010 11:42 GMT
#151
oh boy, skyhigh got firefisted.
Brood War loyalist
SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
March 11 2010 11:50 GMT
#152
On March 11 2010 20:42 meegrean wrote:
oh boy, skyhigh got firefisted, hard.

"If i lost an arm, I would play w3." -IntoTheWow || "Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk cafe. He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
March 11 2010 11:53 GMT
#153
firefist? orly oO
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3017 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-11 12:00:31
March 11 2010 11:59 GMT
#154
On March 11 2010 20:34 samachking wrote:

Actually Flash was the one who brought this back into the metagame, that aggressive push vs the Muta heavy Zerg who is cutting sunks, though it works for him most of the time, it failed vs Calm in the Heartbreak ridge set.


... I'm fully aware of what Flash brought back to the metagame.

What I'm saying is that he never would have made that decision in this SPECIFIC situation, when the cons so greatly outweigh the pros and there's a large element of chance involved.

I can't believe you'd interpret what I said as "Flash would never go forward to break Sunkens", are you serious?
Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9033 Posts
March 11 2010 12:32 GMT
#155
Wrong order of bets costs me 2 points in LB.
RamenStyle
Profile Joined September 2004
United States1929 Posts
March 11 2010 12:39 GMT
#156
Damn sKyHigh needs a humbleness cure. Sometimes it looks like he is playing like he doesn't really care if he wins or he doesn't.
Katsuge
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore7730 Posts
March 11 2010 13:07 GMT
#157
skyhigh is so bad vs zergs.
김태연 | 정은지 | 아이유 |  한효주 | 이민정 <3 -|||- 소녀시대 에이핑크 사랑해!
DivinO
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4796 Posts
March 11 2010 13:22 GMT
#158
Zerg dominance yet again.
LiquipediaBrain in my filth.
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France7928 Posts
March 11 2010 13:51 GMT
#159
Oh well, I never really liked Skyhigh anyway, so fuck the terran solidarity and gogogo FireFirst!!
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
EleanorRIgby
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada3923 Posts
March 11 2010 13:53 GMT
#160
yes firefist is gosu
savior did nothing wrong
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