With 2 more days til showtime, it's time to announce the players and to bust out some polls! First, an additional rule we'd like to install: # If the TL-submitted handicap has not come up yet, it will be enforced in the final game for a complete victory.
Players:
To those selected, please be in channel TL-Arena a bit before the designated time and whisper to Julmust or Pholon so we know you're there. If you play make sure you have Antihack on. If you lag we find a reserve. Those picked as reserves may step up if people don't show up. If they also fail to show we start going down the list of people who left their ID in the announcement topic. Additionally, the same procedure is used if the Team Melee handicap is picked. + Show Spoiler +
Trying to keep this in proper TL-submission style I've named all the submissions (thx for raising the bar Alur!! >_< ). Some are combinations of several suggestions.
Slowvermind - No speed upgrades are allowed. Exempt are Overlord because:
Underlords - No Ovie upgrades
Sleeveless - No tricks (Muta stack, hold Lurker, Drone drill, Gas tricks, Glitching)
Whereto?! - No rally points
We don't sell Broodwar here - No Broodwar units (Lurkers, Devourers)
Why wasn't I picked to play? D:< I make a numbered list of people as they come in. When it's complete I have my TI-83 pick 8 random numbers and those players get in. It's fair this way. + Show Spoiler +
Seriously though, you'll let me in right? ;D No. + Show Spoiler +
Aw cmon, I'll be your best friend :D I cannot be bribed. + Show Spoiler +
Chocolate chip :3 Ok you're in, but don't tell anyone mkay ;o
I played last time, can I play again? We like giving more people a chance to play so you'll have to sit one out. You can always join the reserves though!
Why wasn't my handicap picked? It probably won't work as well as you thought, cannot be monitored by the refs, has no show element or is just plain retarded.
Okay then, what makes a good handicap? There are a couple of things that make a bad handicap.
The offline handicap - "Has to play with ovenmittenslol" There's no way of us to check this (other than trust the Hero) and it either won't show in the games or be so detrimental that he'll just roll over and die right off the bat.
The area-bound handicap - "No maybard/scouting" Although "base" and "expansion" seem pretty straightforward they really aren't. Also "yeah I was gonna build a building there but I changed my mind" is a pretty good excuse for the examples.
The do handicap - "Yeah he's gotta plague his army lol" Handcaps are mostly about what he can't do. If you tell he has to do something it raises when?/how?/where? questions - which makes the whole thing rather complicated - and if his opponent ggs before he can do whatever it is he has to do does he lose?
The undoable handicap - "Can only morph from the left-most larvae" The sole concept of playing with handicaps is hard. You have to remember what they are and drop some thing you are really really used to. Some things are therefore pretty undoable for a player. On top of that we don't want to go kESPA on his ass when he forgets, but just give him a reminder nudge. Therefore handicaps need to be checkable (i.e. nothing involving supply numbers).
Furthermore keep in mind that we try to go for non match-up specific handicaps.
You say it's on Sunday but the calender says Monday - I'm so confused! TeamLiquid runs on KST (Korean time). Because of the timezone difference they arrive at their Monday before Europeans or Americans do.
Hey at what time do I get to play? Can I play first? There is no set time for when you get to play. Adapting to Handicaps is in and of itself a tactical consideration and we leave the Hero the freedom to choose the order in which he plays people. Some Handicaps may prompt him to play vs a certain race first, or he might choose to save his best MU for last.
I didn't get to play, can I default to next time? The show is about the Hero, not about the fodder. Being selected does not guarantee you a game. The Hero is just required to play you if he wants a full win. If, however, he loses the event is officially over. Of course we ask our Heroes to play some more games (who wants a 30 minute show?) but if we don't get to your it's just tough luck. You're free to enter future Arenas and if you showed up we'll pick you over people who didn't.
neat handicaps, i hope queen, no broodwar and whereto?! get picked, they are by far the best. Handicaps should force the challenger to play unorthodox and these three make that happen sept for whereto?! perhaps but it pulls his mechanical skills about down.
Pholon i demand a recount, using your calculator doesn't provide truly random results. Unbiased results maybe, truly random - no. Edit: For your convenience: http://www.random.org/
On January 23 2010 04:17 Alur wrote: Pholon i demand a recount, using your calculator doesn't provide truly random results. Unbiased results maybe, truly random - no. Edit: For your convenience: http://www.random.org/
I hope you're kidding. It's close enough to random...
hehe, well I have no idea whether or not the calculator was completely random, but it seems fair enough to me, your calculator just doesn't like me haha
For this TL Arena, i was picked as one of the eight main contestants (Brontosaurex) to play a game. I had waited in channel for two hours when Pholon called me to join the game, but I was booted from the game I was chosen to play in! (A reserve got to play instead (TerranYouApart))
Is there any way I can get a slot in the next TL Arena, seeing as I enlisted properly, was chosen as a main contestant, got called to a game by Pholon, but was booted from the game I was selected to play in while a reserve gamed in my place?
On January 25 2010 08:20 Nytefish wrote: He just happens to unfortunately have the same voice as "that really annoying nerdy kid" everyone knows.
believe me or not but I honestly don't think that my voice is weird or annoying at all irl. I'd have to listen to myself to see the difference, but its sorta weird lol
On January 25 2010 08:20 Nytefish wrote: He just happens to unfortunately have the same voice as "that really annoying nerdy kid" everyone knows.
believe me or not but I honestly don't think that my voice is weird or annoying at all irl. I'd have to listen to myself to see the difference, but its sorta weird lol
yeah no offense, but it really is the stereotypical smart geek/nerd kids voice you normally see in most movies, where the kid is tiny, skinny, with bigass round glasses and gets bullied a ton etc
On January 25 2010 08:35 SerpentFlame wrote: For this TL Arena, i was picked as one of the eight main contestants (Brontosaurex) to play a game. I had waited in channel for two hours when Pholon called me to join the game, but I was booted from the game I was chosen to play in! (A reserve got to play instead (TerranYouApart))
Is there any way I can get a slot in the next TL Arena, seeing as I enlisted properly, was chosen as a main contestant, got called to a game by Pholon, but was booted from the game I was selected to play in while a reserve gamed in my place?
Pholon'll probably take this into consideration next time. I was about 100% certain Pholon told me that TerranYouApart was supposed to play though. Since we were in a rush to get things started, I might not have heard.
On January 25 2010 08:35 SerpentFlame wrote: For this TL Arena, i was picked as one of the eight main contestants (Brontosaurex) to play a game. I had waited in channel for two hours when Pholon called me to join the game, but I was booted from the game I was chosen to play in! (A reserve got to play instead (TerranYouApart))
Is there any way I can get a slot in the next TL Arena, seeing as I enlisted properly, was chosen as a main contestant, got called to a game by Pholon, but was booted from the game I was selected to play in while a reserve gamed in my place?
Pholon'll probably take this into consideration next time. I was about 100% certain Pholon told me that TerranYouApart was supposed to play though. Since we were in a rush to get things started, I might not have heard.
Yeah, basically what happened was: Pholon called for a player, Terran spoke up first even though he was a reserve. He joined the game. Then brontosaurus said that he was on the main list, and pholon said that he should go instead. However this wasn't communicated in time, so bronto got kicked and the game started.
Well Pholon was calling specifically for Orgine at the time, amidst a ton of random players (including many not on the list at all) spamming for a chance to game: I thought it wouldn't be cool to be spamming for games when the TL staff running the event were doing their thing, hence my two-second-later speakup.
( PS: I'm not trying to blame anyone in this post, just wondering if there is any sort of recompense for it )
On January 25 2010 08:20 Nytefish wrote: He just happens to unfortunately have the same voice as "that really annoying nerdy kid" everyone knows.
believe me or not but I honestly don't think that my voice is weird or annoying at all irl. I'd have to listen to myself to see the difference, but its sorta weird lol
yeah no offense, but it really is the stereotypical smart geek/nerd kids voice you normally see in most movies, where the kid is tiny, skinny, with bigass round glasses and gets bullied a ton etc
On January 25 2010 08:20 Nytefish wrote: He just happens to unfortunately have the same voice as "that really annoying nerdy kid" everyone knows.
believe me or not but I honestly don't think that my voice is weird or annoying at all irl. I'd have to listen to myself to see the difference, but its sorta weird lol
yeah no offense, but it really is the stereotypical smart geek/nerd kids voice you normally see in most movies, where the kid is tiny, skinny, with bigass round glasses and gets bullied a ton etc
lol that's not at all what I'm like
yeah i didnt say you were just the voice conjures that image
thanks to everyone for the kind words and for allowing me to do this event! Was a LOT of fun.
Anna was kinda upset that I tarnished her possible reputation as a possible "ok" SC gamer.. but that will be fixed I promised to actually teach her and possibly at a later date we can see a girl vs girl foreigner showmatch
Hopefully this was recorded cause I would LOVE to get a vod of it.
On January 25 2010 08:20 Nytefish wrote: He just happens to unfortunately have the same voice as "that really annoying nerdy kid" everyone knows.
believe me or not but I honestly don't think that my voice is weird or annoying at all irl. I'd have to listen to myself to see the difference, but its sorta weird lol
yeah no offense, but it really is the stereotypical smart geek/nerd kids voice you normally see in most movies, where the kid is tiny, skinny, with bigass round glasses and gets bullied a ton etc
It has to be an American stereotype then, since I have no idea what people complain about.
Pretty fun episode, though I`m sure people would like to see more shit-talk from Chill. Thanks to the hero and commentators.
On January 25 2010 17:39 {88}iNcontroL wrote: thanks to everyone for the kind words and for allowing me to do this event! Was a LOT of fun.
Anna was kinda upset that I tarnished her possible reputation as a possible "ok" SC gamer.. but that will be fixed I promised to actually teach her and possibly at a later date we can see a girl vs girl foreigner showmatch
Hopefully this was recorded cause I would LOVE to get a vod of it.
Thx <3
She was very good for first time player. I remember one German who was wandering around the map to find something to mine =]
On January 25 2010 17:39 {88}iNcontroL wrote: thanks to everyone for the kind words and for allowing me to do this event! Was a LOT of fun.
Anna was kinda upset that I tarnished her possible reputation as a possible "ok" SC gamer.. but that will be fixed I promised to actually teach her and possibly at a later date we can see a girl vs girl foreigner showmatch
Hopefully this was recorded cause I would LOVE to get a vod of it.
Thx <3
She was very good for first time player. I remember one German who was wandering around the map to find something to mine =]
Once my sisters decided to play each other 1v1 PvP on some blizzard map. In the end the map was mined out and neither of them had any money left. They each had 100 cannons dotted around the map with about 3 dark archons and 1 corsair each.
I told them the game was a draw and they were pretty happy.
On January 25 2010 17:39 {88}iNcontroL wrote: thanks to everyone for the kind words and for allowing me to do this event! Was a LOT of fun.
Anna was kinda upset that I tarnished her possible reputation as a possible "ok" SC gamer.. but that will be fixed I promised to actually teach her and possibly at a later date we can see a girl vs girl foreigner showmatch
Hopefully this was recorded cause I would LOVE to get a vod of it.
Thx <3
I'm trying to convince my GF to learn to play. We should totally get them to have a grudge rematch.
On January 25 2010 17:39 {88}iNcontroL wrote: thanks to everyone for the kind words and for allowing me to do this event! Was a LOT of fun.
Anna was kinda upset that I tarnished her possible reputation as a possible "ok" SC gamer.. but that will be fixed I promised to actually teach her and possibly at a later date we can see a girl vs girl foreigner showmatch
Hopefully this was recorded cause I would LOVE to get a vod of it.
Thx <3
I'm trying to convince my GF to learn to play. We should totally get them to have a grudge rematch.
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just the voice conjures that image
