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[SPL] MBCGame HERO vs SK Telecom T1

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ItsBigfoot
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States432 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-04 10:24:16
January 04 2010 08:50 GMT
#1
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Game 1: (T)Light vs (P)BeSt on New Tornado
Game 2: (Z)HyuN vs (Z)n.Die_soO on New Heartbreak Ridge
Game 3: (T)Sea vs (T)fantasy on Neo Moon Glaive
Game 4: (P)han vs (P)Bisu on Match Point
Closer on Outsider SE


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Game 1: (T)Light vs (P)BeSt on New Tornado
Game 2: (Z)HyuN vs (Z)n.Die_soO on New Heartbreak Ridge
Game 3: (T)Sea vs (T)fantasy on Neo Moon Glaive
Game 4: (P)han vs (P)Bisu on Match Point
Game 5: (T)Sea vs (P)Bisu on Outsider SE



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Game 1: (T)Light vs (P)BeSt on New Tornado
Game 2: (Z)HyuN vs (Z)n.Die_soO on New Heartbreak Ridge
Game 3: (T)Sea vs (T)fantasy on Neo Moon Glaive
Game 4: (P)han vs (P)Bisu on Match Point
Closer on Outsider SE



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mbc.ferron.pe
Konadora's Stream

post your stream and I'll put it up
Kal Fighting!
ItsBigfoot
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States432 Posts
January 04 2010 08:51 GMT
#2
updated results may be late, as in all honesty I'm more interested in samsung vs KT
Kal Fighting!
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66201 Posts
January 04 2010 08:56 GMT
#3
Wrong title format, it should be "[SPL] MBCGame HERO vs SK Telecom T1"

That said, I'm streaming

http://c.zeroboy.net/konadora/
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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66201 Posts
January 04 2010 08:57 GMT
#4
and PLEASE TLPD-ize the OP
POGGERS
ItsBigfoot
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States432 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-04 09:00:52
January 04 2010 08:58 GMT
#5
gotcha

title cannot be fixed though
Kal Fighting!
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66201 Posts
January 04 2010 09:02 GMT
#6
leave that to a mod, someone will change it I guess
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mog87
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1586 Posts
January 04 2010 09:04 GMT
#7
I think Light will take best.
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-04 09:13:47
January 04 2010 09:13 GMT
#8
Are all T1 fans taking a break or what? Never expect a SKT1 LR thread to be so barren.

If Best doesn't beat Light, I'm guessing 3-0 MBC. If Best wins, I think T1 takes it 3-2(due to Ace map being bad for TvP).
Meh
jodogohoo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada2533 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-04 09:15:01
January 04 2010 09:13 GMT
#9
lol thanks for the up : ]
predictions should be
+ Show Spoiler +
Game 1: (T)Light vs (P)BeSt on New Tornado
Game 2: (Z)HyuN vs (Z)n.Die_soO on New Heartbreak Ridge
Game 3: (T)Sea vs (T)fantasy on Neo Moon Glaive
Game 4: (P)han vs (P)Bisu on Match Point
Game 5: (T)Sea vs (P)Bisu on Outsider SE


tlpd doesn't tlpdize when u bold for some weird reason : (
just quote / copy this ^_^
also http://www.teamliquid.net/video/mbc
is a good stream
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66201 Posts
January 04 2010 09:15 GMT
#10
outsider SE isn't TLPD-ized correctly, you have to highlight "Outsider SE" and TLPD-ize it
POGGERS
Hyaach
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Singapore1737 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-04 09:19:07
January 04 2010 09:17 GMT
#11
Might wanna tlpd your post but all in all more excited for khan/kt

oh shit didnt know so many people already pointed it out while i was finding food.

Hoping Light wins and han fail for my fpl.
Thailand is my new obsession
Mystlord *
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
January 04 2010 09:20 GMT
#12
Although I'm honestly more interested in the other game, it's OGN and I don't trust it, so I'm doing this one.

http://tv.zeroboy.net/mystlord
It is impossible to be a citizen if you don't make an effort to understand the most basic activities of your government. It is very difficult to thrive in an increasingly competitive world if you're a nation of doods.
blue_arrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1971 Posts
January 04 2010 09:22 GMT
#13
SKT FTW
| MLIA | the weather sucks dick here
DoX.)
Profile Joined December 2008
Singapore6164 Posts
January 04 2010 09:25 GMT
#14
SKT FTW
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10341 Posts
January 04 2010 09:26 GMT
#15
Hmm... A big-name player is going to really fuck up here...
[21:07] <Shock710> whats wrong with her face [20:50] <dAPhREAk> i beat it the day after it came out | <BLinD-RawR> esports is a giant vagina
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66201 Posts
January 04 2010 09:27 GMT
#16
eew MBC's jackets are plain ugly
POGGERS
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8090 Posts
January 04 2010 09:28 GMT
#17
Konadora dont be so harsh, Thanks for the op bigfoot
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
DoX.)
Profile Joined December 2008
Singapore6164 Posts
January 04 2010 09:28 GMT
#18
Bisu ninja mode?
bitchaRd[raGe]
Profile Joined August 2008
Russian Federation376 Posts
January 04 2010 09:28 GMT
#19
I hope today SKT won't be SK Failcom again.
SKT1!
PeAcY6969
Profile Joined January 2008
France621 Posts
January 04 2010 09:28 GMT
#20
Thanks for the Stream, gogo MBC !

http://c.zeroboy.net/konadora/
http://tv.zeroboy.net/mystlord
"MBCGame HERO... What Else ?"
bitchaRd[raGe]
Profile Joined August 2008
Russian Federation376 Posts
January 04 2010 09:29 GMT
#21
Surgeon toss ftw!
SKT1!
blue_arrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1971 Posts
January 04 2010 09:31 GMT
#22
WTF UNIFORMS -.-;
| MLIA | the weather sucks dick here
Chen
Profile Joined June 2009
United States6344 Posts
January 04 2010 09:31 GMT
#23
WTF is MBC wearing?!?... those.... indescribably bad
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66201 Posts
January 04 2010 09:32 GMT
#24
On January 04 2010 18:28 Scaramanga wrote:
Konadora dont be so harsh, Thanks for the op bigfoot

I'm just saying he should at least follow the standard format, especially when there are rules regarding it
POGGERS
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10341 Posts
January 04 2010 09:33 GMT
#25
On January 04 2010 18:28 bitchaRd[raGe] wrote:
I hope today SKT won't be SK Failcom again.

... That was pretty lame.
[21:07] <Shock710> whats wrong with her face [20:50] <dAPhREAk> i beat it the day after it came out | <BLinD-RawR> esports is a giant vagina
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
January 04 2010 09:34 GMT
#26
Bisu wearing his surgeon mask again haha
Writerptrk
bitchaRd[raGe]
Profile Joined August 2008
Russian Federation376 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-04 09:36:04
January 04 2010 09:35 GMT
#27
On January 04 2010 18:33 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
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On January 04 2010 18:28 bitchaRd[raGe] wrote:
I hope today SKT won't be SK Failcom again.

... That was pretty lame.


I am cheering for SKT since it was founded, but if you watched their last games, man they were bad.
SKT1!
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-04 09:37:07
January 04 2010 09:36 GMT
#28
Bisu is gonna open up a can of surgery on han's ass.

On January 04 2010 18:35 bitchaRd[raGe] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2010 18:33 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
On January 04 2010 18:28 bitchaRd[raGe] wrote:
I hope today SKT won't be SK Failcom again.

... That was pretty lame.


I am cheering for SKT since it was founded, but if you watched their last games, man they were bad.

Have some confidence in T1 man, they've been through rough patches before. ~_~ A measly losing streak is nothing in the long run.
DoX.)
Profile Joined December 2008
Singapore6164 Posts
January 04 2010 09:36 GMT
#29
Woot go Best
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66201 Posts
January 04 2010 09:37 GMT
#30
poor Light, always getting compared to Sea

POGGERS
DoX.)
Profile Joined December 2008
Singapore6164 Posts
January 04 2010 09:39 GMT
#31
Both players as standard as can be.

T1 icons ftw
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10341 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-04 09:39:35
January 04 2010 09:39 GMT
#32
Best going DTs

Light going 2 fact
[21:07] <Shock710> whats wrong with her face [20:50] <dAPhREAk> i beat it the day after it came out | <BLinD-RawR> esports is a giant vagina
lazz
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia3119 Posts
January 04 2010 09:39 GMT
#33
2 fac vs DT
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10341 Posts
January 04 2010 09:40 GMT
#34
Light not researching mines yet, although he's getting 2 machine shops.
[21:07] <Shock710> whats wrong with her face [20:50] <dAPhREAk> i beat it the day after it came out | <BLinD-RawR> esports is a giant vagina
Mystlord *
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
January 04 2010 09:41 GMT
#35
1 Gate DT vs a 2 fac. Lol this is going to be so sad. GG on DT sighting?
It is impossible to be a citizen if you don't make an effort to understand the most basic activities of your government. It is very difficult to thrive in an increasingly competitive world if you're a nation of doods.
DoX.)
Profile Joined December 2008
Singapore6164 Posts
January 04 2010 09:41 GMT
#36
One gate DT into nexus. DT on the way
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10341 Posts
January 04 2010 09:41 GMT
#37
No vultures, no mines, no turrets, no scan, dts out.
[21:07] <Shock710> whats wrong with her face [20:50] <dAPhREAk> i beat it the day after it came out | <BLinD-RawR> esports is a giant vagina
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66201 Posts
January 04 2010 09:41 GMT
#38
NEO XELLOS
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Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
January 04 2010 09:41 GMT
#39
Young Xellos!
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66201 Posts
January 04 2010 09:41 GMT
#40
LOOOL DT WALKS INTO MAIN
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Chen
Profile Joined June 2009
United States6344 Posts
January 04 2010 09:41 GMT
#41
DT vs 2-fact. Light hasnt even started acad or egen bay and DTs are in the fricken base
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51475 Posts
January 04 2010 09:42 GMT
#42
light

Commentator
Mystlord *
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
January 04 2010 09:42 GMT
#43
Lol DTs raping Light's push.

DT raping Light's SCVs. Game over light, sorry

GG from Light
It is impossible to be a citizen if you don't make an effort to understand the most basic activities of your government. It is very difficult to thrive in an increasingly competitive world if you're a nation of doods.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66201 Posts
January 04 2010 09:42 GMT
#44
lolololololololololol

DTS IMBA
POGGERS
DoX.)
Profile Joined December 2008
Singapore6164 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-04 09:42:58
January 04 2010 09:42 GMT
#45
Light making his push with 3 rines, 2 tanks and vults from 2 fac

9 SCV KILLS FROM DT IN LIGHTS BASE

Dts gonna hold of the 2 fac push it seems

GG
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10341 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-04 09:43:59
January 04 2010 09:42 GMT
#46
That was pretty pathetic from Light.

Best is giggling. His dt control (picking off mines) was good.
[21:07] <Shock710> whats wrong with her face [20:50] <dAPhREAk> i beat it the day after it came out | <BLinD-RawR> esports is a giant vagina
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
January 04 2010 09:42 GMT
#47
aaaaaaaand fail.
Moderatorhttp://carbonleaf.yuku.com/topic/408/t/So-I-proposed-at-a-Carbon-Leaf-concert.html ***** RIP Geoff
lazz
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia3119 Posts
January 04 2010 09:42 GMT
#48
sick DT micro takes out mines before they can get planted
bitchaRd[raGe]
Profile Joined August 2008
Russian Federation376 Posts
January 04 2010 09:42 GMT
#49
Best looks happy ^__^
SKT1!
blue_arrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1971 Posts
January 04 2010 09:42 GMT
#50
EZPZ
| MLIA | the weather sucks dick here
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
January 04 2010 09:43 GMT
#51
wuttt
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
dekuschrub
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2069 Posts
January 04 2010 09:43 GMT
#52
wowwww

that was pretty lame lol
d3_crescentia
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4054 Posts
January 04 2010 09:43 GMT
#53
holy wow DTs killing so many mines

GG lol
once, not long ago, there was a moon here
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
January 04 2010 09:43 GMT
#54
That was one of the worst games I've ever seen light play.
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
fearus
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
China2164 Posts
January 04 2010 09:44 GMT
#55
protoss manlyness triumphs over attempted terran gayness yet again
bisu fanboy
Gao Xi
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Hong Kong5178 Posts
January 04 2010 09:44 GMT
#56
16 kill DT?
That was lame.
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ItsBigfoot
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States432 Posts
January 04 2010 09:44 GMT
#57
that was quick
Kal Fighting!
Chen
Profile Joined June 2009
United States6344 Posts
January 04 2010 09:44 GMT
#58
even though im happy to see SKT and Best win for once, that was a pretty lame game. kinda sucks for Best that even when he tries to mix it up hes pretty boring
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
January 04 2010 09:44 GMT
#59
The DTs totally nullified the timing attack and secured Best's FE.
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10341 Posts
January 04 2010 09:44 GMT
#60
On January 04 2010 18:44 fearus wrote:
protoss manlyness triumphs over attempted terran gayness yet again

You're calling 1-base dts manly and 2 fact push gay?
[21:07] <Shock710> whats wrong with her face [20:50] <dAPhREAk> i beat it the day after it came out | <BLinD-RawR> esports is a giant vagina
lazz
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia3119 Posts
January 04 2010 09:44 GMT
#61
terrible gamble by light.
bitchaRd[raGe]
Profile Joined August 2008
Russian Federation376 Posts
January 04 2010 09:45 GMT
#62
Congratulations on playing protoss (c)
SKT1!
fearus
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
China2164 Posts
January 04 2010 09:45 GMT
#63
On January 04 2010 18:44 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2010 18:44 fearus wrote:
protoss manlyness triumphs over attempted terran gayness yet again

You're calling 1-base dts manly and 2 fact push gay?


was calling protoss manly and terrans gay

but yes what you said wouldnt be entirely false either
bisu fanboy
DoX.)
Profile Joined December 2008
Singapore6164 Posts
January 04 2010 09:45 GMT
#64
On January 04 2010 18:44 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2010 18:44 fearus wrote:
protoss manlyness triumphs over attempted terran gayness yet again

You're calling 1-base dts manly and 2 fact push gay?

LOL. wtf
lazz
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia3119 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-04 09:48:01
January 04 2010 09:46 GMT
#65
On January 04 2010 18:44 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2010 18:44 fearus wrote:
protoss manlyness triumphs over attempted terran gayness yet again

You're calling 1-base dts manly and 2 fact push gay?

2 fac is kinda gay if it just auto loses vs a certain build :/ totally all-in from light.

best's build wasnt all-in at all
Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
January 04 2010 09:47 GMT
#66
On January 04 2010 18:43 Plexa wrote:
That was one of the worst games I've ever seen light play.


2fac always looks pretty bad when it fails.
I'm taking whatever coverage I can get, because frankly, I'm busy working on this million dollar deal at my job. Early retirement is a good thing brotha man. - MessengerASL
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10341 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-04 09:50:18
January 04 2010 09:48 GMT
#67
Nevermind, I'll focus on the games, not the posts.
[21:07] <Shock710> whats wrong with her face [20:50] <dAPhREAk> i beat it the day after it came out | <BLinD-RawR> esports is a giant vagina
fearus
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
China2164 Posts
January 04 2010 09:50 GMT
#68
On January 04 2010 18:48 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2010 18:46 lazz wrote:
On January 04 2010 18:44 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
On January 04 2010 18:44 fearus wrote:
protoss manlyness triumphs over attempted terran gayness yet again

You're calling 1-base dts manly and 2 fact push gay?

2 fac is kinda gay if it ust auto loses vs a certain build :/ totally all-in from light.

best's buidl wasnt all -in at all

So you think all-ins are gay?


yes
bisu fanboy
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66201 Posts
January 04 2010 09:52 GMT
#69
On January 04 2010 18:44 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2010 18:44 fearus wrote:
protoss manlyness triumphs over attempted terran gayness yet again

You're calling 1-base dts manly and 2 fact push gay?

what is this blasphemy
POGGERS
matjlav
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany2435 Posts
January 04 2010 09:52 GMT
#70
On January 04 2010 18:45 bitchaRd[raGe] wrote:
Congratulations on playing protoss (c)


Get it right, it's "Congratulations on lpaying protoss"!
lazz
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia3119 Posts
January 04 2010 09:53 GMT
#71
well i wouldnt exactly call all-ins "gay", but they are a little lame. perfectly fine way to play the game though. sometimes it's good to keep your opponents honest and make sure they aren't cutting corners (which best IS likely to do)


what irks me though is terran players calling DTs lame when a terran player doesn't prepare for them and loses. THAT is gay.
DoX.)
Profile Joined December 2008
Singapore6164 Posts
January 04 2010 09:55 GMT
#72
Oh, please. 2-fac is the epitome of terran manliness.
Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9023 Posts
January 04 2010 09:55 GMT
#73
Poor Light, first Kwanro and now Best. People really needs to stop cheesing this guy.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66201 Posts
January 04 2010 09:56 GMT
#74
n.die_sOo going 9pool
POGGERS
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66201 Posts
January 04 2010 09:56 GMT
#75
HYUN 12 HATCHHHHHHHHHHH
POGGERS
bitchaRd[raGe]
Profile Joined August 2008
Russian Federation376 Posts
January 04 2010 09:57 GMT
#76
On January 04 2010 18:52 matjlav wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2010 18:45 bitchaRd[raGe] wrote:
Congratulations on playing protoss (c)


Get it right, it's "Congratulations on lpaying protoss"!


Yea, exaclty
SKT1!
DoX.)
Profile Joined December 2008
Singapore6164 Posts
January 04 2010 09:57 GMT
#77
LINGS OUT FOR SOO

GoGoSoo
DoX.)
Profile Joined December 2008
Singapore6164 Posts
January 04 2010 09:58 GMT
#78
2 drones left for hyun it looks like
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66201 Posts
January 04 2010 09:59 GMT
#79
SKT1 3-0 inc
POGGERS
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66201 Posts
January 04 2010 09:59 GMT
#80
wtf that hatch had like 100hp left, why don't kill it?
POGGERS
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66201 Posts
January 04 2010 10:00 GMT
#81
1 muta out for sOo = gg for hyun
POGGERS
DoX.)
Profile Joined December 2008
Singapore6164 Posts
January 04 2010 10:00 GMT
#82
Spire on the way for Soo..hyun going for one big ling attk

SOO HOLDS IT OFF

Lair no where in sight for Hyun
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
January 04 2010 10:00 GMT
#83
On January 04 2010 18:59 konadora wrote:
SKT1 3-0 inc


fantasy over Sea?

It could happen but I wouldn't call it.
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10341 Posts
January 04 2010 10:00 GMT
#84
Soo is gonna win? Holy....
[21:07] <Shock710> whats wrong with her face [20:50] <dAPhREAk> i beat it the day after it came out | <BLinD-RawR> esports is a giant vagina
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66201 Posts
January 04 2010 10:01 GMT
#85
4 ling vs 1 ling

no chamber

mutas being spawned for sOo

Hyun's totally screwed

Evo chamber going up for Hyun only now
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Chen
Profile Joined June 2009
United States6344 Posts
January 04 2010 10:01 GMT
#86
Soo with more lings, more drones, and more tech with more mutas soon. evo chamber started for Hyun tho
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Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66201 Posts
January 04 2010 10:01 GMT
#87
wow somehow gets a spore colony up rofl
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Singapore6164 Posts
January 04 2010 10:02 GMT
#88
spore inc for Hyun

Soo's one muta gonna have to retreat
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Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
January 04 2010 10:02 GMT
#89
Hyun trying to climb back into this with an evo chamber and spores, but it looks like a clear victory for Hyun regardless since the natural hatchery looks set to get sniped by 1 Muta, plus Soo wins in terms of lings.
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Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
January 04 2010 10:02 GMT
#90
GG Best, playing always standard macro is boring xd
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Profile Joined December 2008
Singapore6164 Posts
January 04 2010 10:02 GMT
#91
lings coming in for Soo

Hyun GGs
Mystlord *
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
January 04 2010 10:02 GMT
#92
Soo going to snipe Hyun's spawning pool, which means Hyun is so dead.

No lings for Hyun. GG from him.

Lol wow an SKT Zerg won.
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EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
January 04 2010 10:03 GMT
#93
Oh dear god, a T1 Zerg won? Sweeeeeet!
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Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66201 Posts
January 04 2010 10:03 GMT
#94
A SKT1 Zerg just won

Holy crap
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Profile Joined February 2004
Netherlands1821 Posts
January 04 2010 10:03 GMT
#95
So if Bisu doesnt choke SKT actually wins.... nice ^^
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Chen
Profile Joined June 2009
United States6344 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-04 10:03:57
January 04 2010 10:03 GMT
#96
man Bisu might not get to play today. one day they get owned 1-3, the next they might 3-0 without their ACE.
blue_arrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1971 Posts
January 04 2010 10:03 GMT
#97
raped
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Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
January 04 2010 10:03 GMT
#98
Ninja Bisu
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bitchaRd[raGe]
Profile Joined August 2008
Russian Federation376 Posts
January 04 2010 10:03 GMT
#99
It looked like Soo was kinda nervous and a bit confused that it worked.
SKT1!
Deleted User 37864
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
780 Posts
January 04 2010 10:04 GMT
#100
Yessss. SKT should have a definite win now.
If fantasy fails.. we have Bisu playing a PvP.
If they both fail, we will have an ace.. and it can get epic!! BeSt vs Sea?! Bisu vs Sea!?
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21243 Posts
January 04 2010 10:04 GMT
#101
Lame lol I traded Hyun for Sangho thinking he'd win. Oh well.
TranslatorBaa!
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
January 04 2010 10:04 GMT
#102
Sea vs Fantasy and Flash vs FBH at the same time....damn
Terran
Anduril
Profile Joined May 2009
United States248 Posts
January 04 2010 10:04 GMT
#103
This is not looking good at all for MBC
mog87
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1586 Posts
January 04 2010 10:04 GMT
#104
Now fantasy will like proxy fact sea and gay him, but even if sea wins I dont have faith for han to beat bisu.
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10341 Posts
January 04 2010 10:08 GMT
#105
MBC is cooling off, their second best player lost to freaking SoO.
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Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
January 04 2010 10:10 GMT
#106
On January 04 2010 19:08 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
MBC is cooling off, their second best player lost to freaking SoO.

How is Hyun ever considered better than Light or Sea...?
Ikonn
Profile Joined October 2009
Netherlands1958 Posts
January 04 2010 10:11 GMT
#107
On January 04 2010 19:08 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
MBC is cooling off, their second best player lost to freaking SoO.


How can losing one or two games be considered 'cooling off'?
mog87
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1586 Posts
January 04 2010 10:12 GMT
#108
On January 04 2010 19:10 Jyvblamo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2010 19:08 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
MBC is cooling off, their second best player lost to freaking SoO.

How is Hyun ever considered better than Light or Sea...?


or like anybody on mbc...
matjlav
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany2435 Posts
January 04 2010 10:12 GMT
#109
What happened to the Hyun that went on a 5-win streak against Stork, Calmx2, Flash, and free? MBC is depressing me... hopefully Sea will bring his A-game against fantasy, and han pulls some sort of miracle... yeah, this doesn't look too good.
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10341 Posts
January 04 2010 10:15 GMT
#110
On January 04 2010 19:10 Jyvblamo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2010 19:08 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
MBC is cooling off, their second best player lost to freaking SoO.

How is Hyun ever considered better than Light or Sea...?

This proleague, Hyun has beat Stork, Calm twice, free, and Flash.

Light's best wins are Killer, Canata, and Frozean.

So, I consider Hyun MBC's second best player behind Sea.
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nebffa
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Australia776 Posts
January 04 2010 10:15 GMT
#111
On January 04 2010 19:12 matjlav wrote:
What happened to the Hyun that went on a 5-win streak against Stork, Calmx2, Flash, and free? MBC is depressing me... hopefully Sea will bring his A-game against fantasy, and han pulls some sort of miracle... yeah, this doesn't look too good.


dude... 12hatch v 9pool. jaedong loses those games too.

lolz
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10341 Posts
January 04 2010 10:17 GMT
#112
On January 04 2010 19:15 nebffa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2010 19:12 matjlav wrote:
What happened to the Hyun that went on a 5-win streak against Stork, Calmx2, Flash, and free? MBC is depressing me... hopefully Sea will bring his A-game against fantasy, and han pulls some sort of miracle... yeah, this doesn't look too good.


dude... 12hatch v 9pool. jaedong loses those games too.

lolz

Even build order losses are not adequate excuses for losing to SKT zergs.
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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66201 Posts
January 04 2010 10:18 GMT
#113
fantasy 2 fact
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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66201 Posts
January 04 2010 10:19 GMT
#114
..lol
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Mystlord *
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
January 04 2010 10:20 GMT
#115
Sea gets 2 rines killed by a vult, fantasy backs off and doesn't go into Sea's base though.

Scouting SCV denied by fantasy...

2 fac from Fantasy.. This could be bad for Sea.
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Promises
Profile Joined February 2004
Netherlands1821 Posts
January 04 2010 10:21 GMT
#116
Somehow I just cant get exited about TvT's... it always seems so slow and with very few hold-your-breath moments =/
I'm a man of my word, and that word is "unreliable".
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66201 Posts
January 04 2010 10:21 GMT
#117
On January 04 2010 18:59 konadora wrote:
SKT1 3-0 inc

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Gao Xi
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Hong Kong5178 Posts
January 04 2010 10:22 GMT
#118
Sea GGs.
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Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66201 Posts
January 04 2010 10:22 GMT
#119
GG
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blue_arrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1971 Posts
January 04 2010 10:22 GMT
#120
MBC GOT SMASHED
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DoX.)
Profile Joined December 2008
Singapore6164 Posts
January 04 2010 10:22 GMT
#121
wraith out for sea

Fantasy producing a rine from his rax to chase the wraith away
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10341 Posts
January 04 2010 10:22 GMT
#122
*looks at time*.... 3-0ed in 50 minutes... that's with commercials people
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muramasa
Profile Joined March 2005
Canada1299 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-04 10:23:01
January 04 2010 10:22 GMT
#123
T1 Zerg wins.
Sea loses a TvT.

WTF.
Hong Jin Ho. Nevar forget.
Promises
Profile Joined February 2004
Netherlands1821 Posts
January 04 2010 10:22 GMT
#124
GG ^^ I actually meant to type above message at the Khan thread, and ofcourse Fantasy pulls of a fast win here ^^
I'm a man of my word, and that word is "unreliable".
Mystlord *
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
January 04 2010 10:22 GMT
#125
SEA GOT RAPED SO HARD BY 2 FAC! GOOD MINE DIFFUSAL FROM FANTASY!

SEA GGS!

3-0 SKT!

OMG I'VE WAITED FOR THIS MOMENT FOR A LONG TIME!
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Whiplash
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States2928 Posts
January 04 2010 10:22 GMT
#126
MBC's weakness is Estro and SKT1. I am sad bisu did not get to play though
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blue_arrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1971 Posts
January 04 2010 10:22 GMT
#127
also this has to be the shortest skt pl match thread in recent memory
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matjlav
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany2435 Posts
January 04 2010 10:23 GMT
#128
That felt like a replay of Sea vs Flash...
Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
January 04 2010 10:23 GMT
#129
Blah 7th player on ranking so bad, Bisu doesnt even need to play xD
Revolutionist fan
skronch
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2717 Posts
January 04 2010 10:23 GMT
#130
wow mbc barely put up a fight today
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Profile Joined December 2008
Singapore6164 Posts
January 04 2010 10:23 GMT
#131
SKT FIGHTING
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
January 04 2010 10:23 GMT
#132
Here I come, ready for Sea vs Fantasy, and the first thing I see is Fantasy high-fiving Best. tt
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Chen
Profile Joined June 2009
United States6344 Posts
January 04 2010 10:23 GMT
#133
On January 04 2010 19:22 muramasa wrote:
T1 Zerg wins.
Sea loses.

WTF.

well to be fair its Fantasy, he who can beat players like JD then lose to Killer....badly...
Gao Xi
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Hong Kong5178 Posts
January 04 2010 10:25 GMT
#134
On January 04 2010 19:22 blue_arrow wrote:
also this has to be the shortest pl match thread in recent memory

fixed.
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GoSu
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Korea (South)1773 Posts
January 04 2010 10:38 GMT
#135
What a short 3-0. GG SKT.
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Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1971 Posts
January 04 2010 10:52 GMT
#136
On January 04 2010 19:25 Gao Xi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2010 19:22 blue_arrow wrote:
also this has to be the shortest pl match thread in recent memory

fixed.


ehh, not really, i remember shorter ones but none of them were with skt

in fact, i dont think skt has had this short of a thread since streams became widely available
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Fx_
Profile Joined April 2008
503 Posts
January 04 2010 10:52 GMT
#137
My congratulations to SKT
Power is your Intelligence
Emon_
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
3925 Posts
January 04 2010 10:56 GMT
#138
[image loading]

Poll: Game of the night
(Vote): Set 1 - (Light vs. Best)
(Vote): Set 2 - (Hyun vs. soO)
(Vote): Set 3 - (Sea vs. Fantasy)
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SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13040 Posts
January 04 2010 10:56 GMT
#139
wow this was battle of my antiteam. Best Bisu and Han playing good thing Bisu didnt play
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
pripple
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Finland1714 Posts
January 04 2010 10:58 GMT
#140
oh it's over already ;p SKT1 back in business?
Jaedong! <> Team MVP <> Mouz.
blue_arrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1971 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-04 11:01:23
January 04 2010 11:00 GMT
#141
On January 04 2010 19:58 pripple wrote:
oh it's over already ;p SKT1 back in business?


i think this match was more due to MBC sucking and SKT getting a bit lucky tbh
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Matoo-
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Canada1397 Posts
January 04 2010 11:46 GMT
#142
Aw shit, completely forgot about this match. Would've felt bad watching MBC getting crushed anyway since I'm wearing my MBC hoodie today :p good job still SKT, I'll watch the vods later!
nozaro33
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Taiwan1819 Posts
January 04 2010 11:55 GMT
#143
about time SKT pulled things together
#1 Flash / #2 NaDa / #3 Stats fan / KT fan for life
nozaro33
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Taiwan1819 Posts
January 04 2010 12:02 GMT
#144
On January 04 2010 19:22 blue_arrow wrote:
also this has to be the shortest skt pl match thread in recent memory


Because Canata didn't play
#1 Flash / #2 NaDa / #3 Stats fan / KT fan for life
RamenStyle
Profile Joined September 2004
United States1929 Posts
January 04 2010 12:20 GMT
#145
It looks like MBC has run out of fuel. I'm guessing WL will put everyone at where they belong. MBC needs new blood, both for fillers and for ace players.
Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
January 04 2010 12:47 GMT
#146
On January 04 2010 20:55 nozaro33 wrote:
about time SKT pulled things together



vouch. but in WL skt´s depth will show anyway. and with all players out of SLs (soon..... sry best, but i dont have faith in u to go 3-1 on flash on a single day..), they got lots of time to prepare.
"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
January 04 2010 12:51 GMT
#147
I told you people Fantasy would win...
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Kyo Yuy
Profile Joined January 2009
United States1286 Posts
January 04 2010 13:43 GMT
#148
On January 04 2010 20:00 blue_arrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2010 19:58 pripple wrote:
oh it's over already ;p SKT1 back in business?


i think this match was more due to MBC sucking and SKT getting a bit lucky tbh

Are you sure you're an SKT fan? Your signature says you are but I question that, being an SKT fan myself
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BanZu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3329 Posts
January 04 2010 14:36 GMT
#149
On January 04 2010 21:02 nozaro33 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2010 19:22 blue_arrow wrote:
also this has to be the shortest skt pl match thread in recent memory


Because Canata didn't play

lul good retort
Sun Tzu once said, "Defiler becomes useless at the presences of a vessel."
Silentness
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2821 Posts
January 04 2010 14:45 GMT
#150
On January 04 2010 19:25 Gao Xi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2010 19:22 blue_arrow wrote:
also this has to be the shortest pl match thread in recent memory

fixed.


I'd like to thank Light for that.

FAIL LIGHT so much fail. (gets memories of ling run by against Kwanro in their first MSL bout)
GL HF... YOLO..lololollol.
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
January 04 2010 14:49 GMT
#151
On January 04 2010 21:47 Black Gun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2010 20:55 nozaro33 wrote:
about time SKT pulled things together



vouch. but in WL skt´s depth will show anyway. and with all players out of SLs (soon..... sry best, but i dont have faith in u to go 3-1 on flash on a single day..), they got lots of time to prepare.


SKT has crap players for WL.

Bisu/Canata were their only good ones.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
Bisu-Fan
Profile Joined January 2010
Russian Federation3332 Posts
January 04 2010 14:51 GMT
#152
Man~ I wanted to See Bisu play
BUT SKT FIGHTING!!!
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Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
January 04 2010 16:19 GMT
#153
Didn't watch it live, but wanted to throw in my two cents. Normally terrans are annoyed by a toss going DT, but it was a smart move by Best. Light's plan was to use 2-fac to attack before Best could get his famed macro going, but DT first was a strong counter to that. Now other players can't assume Best will go 2/3-base Arbiters and thus can't tailor their builds entirely to counter Best's favorite build, which is I think a big reason why Terrans have been more successful against Best recently. DT vs mine micro was pretty good too, for someone who is so usually careless with his units.

n.Die_soO is the next Hyuk perhaps in the SKT coaching perspective? He's in the lineup pretty often now. A win is a start.

Fantasy vs Sea - I'm always glad to see econ-focused builds get defeated. Nice going using marines to defuse mines. Poor marines T_T.

What a short series, haha.

"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-04 16:53:04
January 04 2010 16:51 GMT
#154
lol, bout time!!!
Pretty happy with the results.
Saw the games and...
Best is showing a lil diversity, a few more dt games, he still avoids reaver like the plague lol -_-;;
Soo... goddamn you are bad. But still, good/lucky build choice.
Fantasy... LOL!!!! YESSSSSS EAT IT SEA. We risk the game knowing your greedy ass FE FE FE.

Cuz you know.. it's cooler to beat MBC without Bisu. =)
POWER OVERWHELMING ! ! ! KRUU~ KRUU~
Hazard
Profile Joined September 2009
Norway594 Posts
January 04 2010 20:11 GMT
#155
Finally some nice coaching from SKT. Best wasn't put into PvP and Bisu was put in a PvP. n.Die_soO finally won a game for all those fails from SKT Zergs. But games were tooooooo short
"Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Cafe! He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
DreaM)XeRO
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Korea (South)4667 Posts
January 04 2010 22:18 GMT
#156
...what teh
well this is GOOD
but .... HYUN C'MON MAN
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Too_MuchZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Finland2818 Posts
January 05 2010 00:14 GMT
#157
Um was zvz longest game today or what? If it was some fast proleague games today :D
BraveNewWorld
Profile Joined December 2009
United States229 Posts
January 05 2010 00:16 GMT
#158
what the hell first SKT-T1 on like a 7 game losing streak now they 3-0 in less than 30 minutes wtf?

and we didnt even get to see bisu?
"who is bisu anyway" - torm3ntin (Jan. 19th, 2009)
iNfeRnaL *
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Germany1908 Posts
January 05 2010 00:19 GMT
#159
And it was even MBC who's been doing good recently...
Well I guess fantasy had a good day for once and Best PvT = roflsup
mog87
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1586 Posts
January 05 2010 05:22 GMT
#160
Lol@ the people bitching out sea for using the oh so greedy 1 fact cc, god what a risky bastard using one of the most standard builds. SKT1 was very fortunate with all of their builds that much, a win is a win, but it doesnt really say anything about the direction either team will go from here.
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
January 05 2010 05:31 GMT
#161
On January 05 2010 14:22 mog87 wrote:
Lol@ the people bitching out sea for using the oh so greedy 1 fact cc, god what a risky bastard using one of the most standard builds. SKT1 was very fortunate with all of their builds that much, a win is a win, but it doesnt really say anything about the direction either team will go from here.

Well, if the team's zerg lineup would stop sucking it up every single game, SKT would be fine. As long as Fantasy can round into form, SKT has a good shot at winning every game.

It's the fact that the zergs still suck after all these years, and Bisu/Fantasy not performing as well as they did last round or last season that lead to a long loss streak.

In other thoughts: Play Best. The guy's playing a lot better as of late. Sick macro as always.
God Bless
Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7244 Posts
January 05 2010 05:57 GMT
#162
man get plague please.

PLEASE
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mog87
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1586 Posts
January 05 2010 09:26 GMT
#163
On January 05 2010 14:31 Roffles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2010 14:22 mog87 wrote:
Lol@ the people bitching out sea for using the oh so greedy 1 fact cc, god what a risky bastard using one of the most standard builds. SKT1 was very fortunate with all of their builds that much, a win is a win, but it doesnt really say anything about the direction either team will go from here.

Well, if the team's zerg lineup would stop sucking it up every single game, SKT would be fine. As long as Fantasy can round into form, SKT has a good shot at winning every game.

It's the fact that the zergs still suck after all these years, and Bisu/Fantasy not performing as well as they did last round or last season that lead to a long loss streak.

In other thoughts: Play Best. The guy's playing a lot better as of late. Sick macro as always.


If SKT1 zergs stopped sucking..lol its just not gonna happen. Trouble with Bisu/Best/Fantasy is that in the age of zerg they are very vulnerable. But Im sure Bisu will pick it up, hes not really doing badly at all just not as good as last year. Oh well we shall see.
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
January 05 2010 13:20 GMT
#164
On January 05 2010 14:22 mog87 wrote:
Lol@ the people bitching out sea for using the oh so greedy 1 fact cc, god what a risky bastard using one of the most standard builds. SKT1 was very fortunate with all of their builds that much, a win is a win, but it doesnt really say anything about the direction either team will go from here.

Wat. Of course it's possible that the advantageous builds were a fluke, but I don't think so, this time. Light's 2-fac was likely designed to punish what how he expected Best to play, but Best decided not to be a predictable chump and that paid off. And it's good that the "most standard builds" can be beaten by certain other builds. If it wasn't possible to punish standard builds, then there would be zero variety to the game (build-wise, at least) at all. So when a standard build falls to another build, it's a good thing.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
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