On January 01 2010 20:19 prototype. wrote:
wow, i can't believe the ppl saying 3rd set was the best game

all flash did was turtle with 40 tanks and sniped everything the zerg had with 2 groups of marines and 10 vessels

LOL I'm gonna assume this comment is what it is because you were rooting for Clam.

valaki

Hungary2476 Posts

January 01 2010 11:21 GMT

#1862

calm should have carried his defilers in ols

Carnivorous Sheep

Baa?21244 Posts

January 01 2010 11:22 GMT

#1863

Guardians and Queens wouldn't have done anything, too many MnM still wandering around.

Calm should've persisted with the dropping.

t_co

United States702 Posts

January 01 2010 11:22 GMT

#1864

On January 01 2010 20:18 On_Slaught wrote:
How did Flash have so much gas.

Honest to fucking god, he must of lost 40 vessels that game yet he kept pumping them out. Plus another 30 tanks.

Calm probably lost equal numbers of ultras and defilers, plus he didn't use his scourge efficiently. Yu do realize that when you make 12 scourge and only take out 2 vessels you only break even on gas...

KristianJS

2107 Posts

January 01 2010 11:22 GMT

#1865

The Korean commentators pointed out that guardians with mutas were the thing to break Flash's tankdefense, but that there were not enough resources at that time to make the transition succesfully. By the time Flash had established his defense Calm was basically forced to commit to the Ultra/Ling.

HaXXspetten

Sweden15718 Posts

January 01 2010 11:22 GMT

#1866

How long was that game?

38 minutes I believe

MrHoon

10183 Posts

January 01 2010 11:22 GMT

#1867

Unless one of you guys bring out a better way flash could've played

please stop saying he turtled

Enlighten me

What could flash have done?

Lose?

Faranth

933 Posts

January 01 2010 11:22 GMT

#1868

--- Nuked ---

DoX.)

Singapore6164 Posts

January 01 2010 11:22 GMT

#1869

ROFL @ turrets on x16

snotboogie

Australia3550 Posts

January 01 2010 11:22 GMT

#1870

OGN is giving me an error, what is this?

GHOSTCLAW

United States17042 Posts

January 01 2010 11:22 GMT

#1871

On January 01 2010 20:20 Xxio wrote:

Show nested quote +

No not at all.

Flash took down how many of Calm's expos? There were so many I can't even remember, and on top of that he had map control the whole game.

Not quite the whole game - calm got map control off of 4 base defiler and then flash used that opportunity to take the whole bottom of the map. With T's defense advantage + flash's playing, flash was able to wait without map control until he regained it through his basecount advantage

TwoToneTerran

United States8841 Posts

January 01 2010 11:22 GMT

#1872

Also yeah, btw guys there's absolutely no fucking way to ever beat 5 gas Defiler Ultraling as T besides getting a lot of tanks. Period. Flash had NO option, no other terran could ever win any other way.

ps: He didn't use mines because he was still utilizing MnM to defend and mine drags are too great a threat with that many fast units.

d(O.o)a

Canada5066 Posts

January 01 2010 11:22 GMT

#1873

On January 01 2010 20:21 valaki wrote:
calm should have carried his defilers in ols

Units in overlords still take damage from irra.

StRyKeR

United States1739 Posts

January 01 2010 11:22 GMT

#1874

On January 01 2010 20:21 valaki wrote:
calm should have carried his defilers in ols

Yes, that should definitely have happened. Clam's intent to push 7 o'clock was deflected three times because defilers died before getting there.

All-in-all, Clam didn't have a late-late-game strategy, and only a late-game strategy.

Itachii

Poland12466 Posts

January 01 2010 11:22 GMT

#1875

On January 01 2010 20:22 MrHoon wrote:
Unless one of you guys bring out a better way flash could've played

please stop saying he turtled

Enlighten me

What could flash have done?

Lose?

YEAH FLASH SHOULD HAVE A MOVED ALL HIS TANKS TO CALMS MAIN JUST TO LOSE THEM ON THE WAY THERE TO 24 ULTRAS UNDER DS
YEEE LETS BLAME FLASH FOR WINNING HIS GAME AND DELIVERING US EPIC 35MIN TVZ

lavion

Singapore286 Posts

January 01 2010 11:23 GMT

#1876

you guys are talking as if calm has unlimited gas to build guardians mutas scourge queens ultras defilers in one go

StRyKeR

United States1739 Posts

January 01 2010 11:23 GMT

#1877

On January 01 2010 20:22 d(O.o)a wrote:

Show nested quote +

Units in overlords still take damage from irra.

The point is that you can't irradiate a Defiler that's inside an ovie, so you can pop them out where you need them instead of walking and dying.

Puosu

7000 Posts

January 01 2010 11:23 GMT

#1878

On January 01 2010 20:22 MrHoon wrote:
Unless one of you guys bring out a better way flash could've played

please stop saying he turtled

Enlighten me

What could flash have done?

Lose?

This, turtling was the obvious and easiest way out of the situation, risking a win there by trying some cute shit and depending on Calm fucking up is not that good of an idea imo.

Cambium

United States16368 Posts

January 01 2010 11:23 GMT

#1879

I was surpised Flash didn't turn the game completely into a TvT with BCs, now THAT would've been epic.

:O

GHOSTCLAW

United States17042 Posts

January 01 2010 11:23 GMT

#1880

On January 01 2010 20:22 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Also yeah, btw guys there's absolutely no fucking way to ever beat 5 gas Defiler Ultraling as T besides getting a lot of tanks. Period. Flash had NO option, no other terran could ever win any other way.

ps: He didn't use mines because he was still utilizing MnM to defend and mine drags are too great a threat with that many fast units.

in a completely different era, you could go mass sci vessels. That being said, mass tanks are the only way in modern play