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On January 01 2010 20:19 prototype. wrote: wow, i can't believe the ppl saying 3rd set was the best game
all flash did was turtle with 40 tanks and sniped everything the zerg had with 2 groups of marines and 10 vessels LOL I'm gonna assume this comment is what it is because you were rooting for Clam.
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calm should have carried his defilers in ols
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Baa?21242 Posts
Guardians and Queens wouldn't have done anything, too many MnM still wandering around.
Calm should've persisted with the dropping.
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On January 01 2010 20:18 On_Slaught wrote: How did Flash have so much gas.
Honest to fucking god, he must of lost 40 vessels that game yet he kept pumping them out. Plus another 30 tanks.
Calm probably lost equal numbers of ultras and defilers, plus he didn't use his scourge efficiently. Yu do realize that when you make 12 scourge and only take out 2 vessels you only break even on gas...
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The Korean commentators pointed out that guardians with mutas were the thing to break Flash's tankdefense, but that there were not enough resources at that time to make the transition succesfully. By the time Flash had established his defense Calm was basically forced to commit to the Ultra/Ling.
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How long was that game?
38 minutes I believe
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MrHoon
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Unless one of you guys bring out a better way flash could've played
please stop saying he turtled
Enlighten me
What could flash have done?
Lose?
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OGN is giving me an error, what is this?
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United States17042 Posts
On January 01 2010 20:20 Xxio wrote:Show nested quote +On January 01 2010 20:18 Highways wrote: Good game?? LOOOOOOLLLLL
That was some massive turtling going on. No not at all. Flash took down how many of Calm's expos? There were so many I can't even remember, and on top of that he had map control the whole game.
Not quite the whole game - calm got map control off of 4 base defiler and then flash used that opportunity to take the whole bottom of the map. With T's defense advantage + flash's playing, flash was able to wait without map control until he regained it through his basecount advantage
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Also yeah, btw guys there's absolutely no fucking way to ever beat 5 gas Defiler Ultraling as T besides getting a lot of tanks. Period. Flash had NO option, no other terran could ever win any other way.
ps: He didn't use mines because he was still utilizing MnM to defend and mine drags are too great a threat with that many fast units.
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On January 01 2010 20:21 valaki wrote: calm should have carried his defilers in ols
Units in overlords still take damage from irra.
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On January 01 2010 20:21 valaki wrote: calm should have carried his defilers in ols
Yes, that should definitely have happened. Clam's intent to push 7 o'clock was deflected three times because defilers died before getting there.
All-in-all, Clam didn't have a late-late-game strategy, and only a late-game strategy.
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On January 01 2010 20:22 MrHoon wrote: Unless one of you guys bring out a better way flash could've played
please stop saying he turtled
Enlighten me
What could flash have done?
Lose? YEAH FLASH SHOULD HAVE A MOVED ALL HIS TANKS TO CALMS MAIN JUST TO LOSE THEM ON THE WAY THERE TO 24 ULTRAS UNDER DS YEEE LETS BLAME FLASH FOR WINNING HIS GAME AND DELIVERING US EPIC 35MIN TVZ
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you guys are talking as if calm has unlimited gas to build guardians mutas scourge queens ultras defilers in one go
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On January 01 2010 20:22 d(O.o)a wrote:Show nested quote +On January 01 2010 20:21 valaki wrote: calm should have carried his defilers in ols Units in overlords still take damage from irra.
The point is that you can't irradiate a Defiler that's inside an ovie, so you can pop them out where you need them instead of walking and dying.
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On January 01 2010 20:22 MrHoon wrote: Unless one of you guys bring out a better way flash could've played
please stop saying he turtled
Enlighten me
What could flash have done?
Lose? This, turtling was the obvious and easiest way out of the situation, risking a win there by trying some cute shit and depending on Calm fucking up is not that good of an idea imo.
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I was surpised Flash didn't turn the game completely into a TvT with BCs, now THAT would've been epic.
:O
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United States17042 Posts
On January 01 2010 20:22 TwoToneTerran wrote: Also yeah, btw guys there's absolutely no fucking way to ever beat 5 gas Defiler Ultraling as T besides getting a lot of tanks. Period. Flash had NO option, no other terran could ever win any other way.
ps: He didn't use mines because he was still utilizing MnM to defend and mine drags are too great a threat with that many fast units.
in a completely different era, you could go mass sci vessels. That being said, mass tanks are the only way in modern play
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