• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 14:06
CET 20:06
KST 04:06
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!12[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5
Community News
Dark completes military service, returns to SC211[BSL23] RO16 Group Stage19Weekly Cups (Nov 2-8): herO back on top?2Weekly Cups (Oct 26 - Nov 1): MaxPax, herO, Solar win0Weekly Cups (October 19-25): Clem triples first in 5.0.175
StarCraft 2
General
Dark completes military service, returns to SC2 Greetings.. No more SC2 streamers on team liquid? Serral's getting trashed by New Catsle's Mind Weekly Cups (Nov 2-8): herO back on top?
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) Dark returns! GSL CK #7 4v4 Team Battle (Nov 19) soO & FanTaSy return! SC2 Kevin Scrim 4v4 (Nov 16) RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[G] How to playtest arcade maps Starcraft 2 Advance [D] the control group Simple Questions/Answers
External Content
Mutation # 552 Secret Storm The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 551 Robotic Revival Mutation # 550 Graveyard Shift
Brood War
General
Korean players' earnings Hit New All-Time High! BW General Discussion List of top players active on ShieldBattery SOOP Hosts SC1 & SC2 Event Tournament: Kevin Scrim BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[$1250] International ShieldBattery League [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL23] Ro16 Group A - Saturday 21:00 CET Bisu's Team vs Shuttle's Team 2026-11-14
Strategy
Pluto's TvP 5Marine 2Medic Push Simple Questions, Simple Answers Infested Terran strategies in 2026 Nuke strategy worked in K-League 2026-11-09
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Free Space RTS Game, optimised f. Phone/Tablet etc List of Game Threads The PlayStation 5
Dota 2
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Artificial Intelligence Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Trading/Investing Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
Fan Club Resource Thread Reynor Fan Club The Flash Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
The time I organised my…
AssyrianKing
Why I built Repalyzer (1.1.…
BlueStar
Innovate or Game Over?
TrAiDoS
ShieldBattery on Mac
Kraekkling
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 12079 users

[OSL] EVER OSL Semi-Final A: Flash vs Calm - Page 46

Forum Index > Brood War Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 44 45 46 47 48 122 Next
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17743 Posts
January 01 2010 10:26 GMT
#901
On January 01 2010 19:23 mog87 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2010 19:17 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
light take note



Yes....Light finds these notes not so helpful...but realizes losing your medics is bad. Surely this information is the final key he needs to defeat kwanro.

look at flash's speedling defense. Look at light's simcity vs kwanro.
ils
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
FireGuyX
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1712 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-01 10:28:12
January 01 2010 10:26 GMT
#902
On January 01 2010 19:24 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2010 19:23 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On January 01 2010 19:22 Avidkeystamper wrote:
On January 01 2010 19:21 TwoToneTerran wrote:
gg I hate HBR.

Dude, listen to Day 9's podcast. Nothing wrong with muta harass on HBR.


I have watched every single Day9 podcast, and as much as I love him, I will take Flash's word and the Z domination on the map as evidence. >:[


Statistically its balanced in zvt. But of course if flash loses it has to be the map not because he got outplayed. you flash fanboys are really pathetic T_T.

Go Calm win game 3 and 4 .



Yeah I admit, it had more to do with Calm playing better, although I am rooting for Flash.
Flash, ForGG, and Movie fan.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
January 01 2010 10:26 GMT
#903
On January 01 2010 19:25 StRyKeR wrote:
When Flash takes a risk and it pays off, it's brilliance. When he takes a risk and it doesn't pan out, it's map imba.

We need more Zerg fans in this room!


+1 its very pathetic tbh and annoying.
When I think of something else, something will go here
DragoonPK
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
3259 Posts
January 01 2010 10:26 GMT
#904
Calm go win this and avenge JD's LOSS!! YEAHHHHHBRAIN ZERG! <3
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
January 01 2010 10:26 GMT
#905
On January 01 2010 19:25 alffla wrote:
did calm do gaspool before 2nd hatch or just noraml 12 hatch this time? o _O


12hatch.
Remember Violet.
Atrioc
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States1866 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-01 10:27:25
January 01 2010 10:26 GMT
#906
On January 01 2010 19:23 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2010 19:22 Avidkeystamper wrote:
On January 01 2010 19:21 TwoToneTerran wrote:
gg I hate HBR.

Dude, listen to Day 9's podcast. Nothing wrong with muta harass on HBR.


I have watched every single Day9 podcast, and as much as I love him, I will take Flash's word and the Z domination on the map as evidence. >:[


Both versions of HBR have above 50% win for Terran in TvZ

really cannot blame the map for calm's good play
Writerman what
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21248 Posts
January 01 2010 10:26 GMT
#907
There is nothing imbalanced about HBR, jesus christ lol. Calm did a good build, Flash didn't react 100% properly, and that cost him the game, end of story.
TranslatorBaa!
DoX.)
Profile Joined December 2008
Singapore6164 Posts
January 01 2010 10:27 GMT
#908
On January 01 2010 19:25 alffla wrote:
did calm do gaspool before 2nd hatch or just noraml 12 hatch this time? o _O

normal 12 hatch i think
Devolved
Profile Joined April 2008
United States2753 Posts
January 01 2010 10:27 GMT
#909
On January 01 2010 19:25 Chen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2010 19:23 yhnmk wrote:
lol everyones screaming "calms muta micro sucks" "never two hatch against flash" then he does it and it works. People need to stop jumping over people all the time. Calms muta micro is fine and two hatch is valid even if its not 100% standard anymore. GG. Looks like this will be a closer series than I first thought.

did you watch the first game? It was ridiculously bad. He looked like a different person this game

The only reason it looked bad was because Flash's micro, timing, and defense were perfect, unlike in the second game.
$♥$
ssj114
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Afghanistan462 Posts
January 01 2010 10:27 GMT
#910
So close to 2400 ELO too Flash. I don't think he can get there tonight now.
Sandboxie + SUA + DEP, Windows Firewall + NAT Router
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17743 Posts
January 01 2010 10:27 GMT
#911
calm mostly won because he sniped that key turret with muta+ling and abused the cliff while flash had no range or vision.
ils
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
FireGuyX
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1712 Posts
January 01 2010 10:27 GMT
#912
Flash is pissed, you don't want to get Flash pissed, just ask Zero.
Flash, ForGG, and Movie fan.
mog87
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1586 Posts
January 01 2010 10:28 GMT
#913
On January 01 2010 19:26 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2010 19:23 mog87 wrote:
On January 01 2010 19:17 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
light take note



Yes....Light finds these notes not so helpful...but realizes losing your medics is bad. Surely this information is the final key he needs to defeat kwanro.

look at flash's speedling defense. Look at light's simcity vs kwanro.



I know your point was valid, I was just being facetious with regard to the results, I realize that may not convey easily on a e-forum.
Coffee
Profile Joined March 2008
United Kingdom347 Posts
January 01 2010 10:28 GMT
#914



Statistics don't tell everything, you put up the wrong built against zergs on HBR it usually equals doom.


this is true for almost any map..
Jakalo
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Latvia2350 Posts
January 01 2010 10:28 GMT
#915
On January 01 2010 19:24 Demand2k wrote:
too bad terran can't recover from anything


Terrans are the ultimate turtle power. What are you talking about
Nostalgia is not as good as it used to be.
muramasa
Profile Joined March 2005
Canada1299 Posts
January 01 2010 10:28 GMT
#916
Flash apologists = scum

Whenever he loses it's because of map imba, because he made a mistake, cheese, or pretty much any excuse but that he got outplayed.
Hong Jin Ho. Nevar forget.
viewer
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada662 Posts
January 01 2010 10:28 GMT
#917
i fuckin hate hbr but that was pretty obvious what happened there guys
johanes
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Czech Republic2246 Posts
January 01 2010 10:28 GMT
#918
On January 01 2010 19:25 Devolved wrote:
Flash never had his marines grouped together well (they were in a line) and the two medics that got sniped were nowhere near the rines. Flash lost this game, plain and simple. Calm's micro was pretty similar in the two games, but Flash had why better rine micro and defense in game 1.

the thing is, given the topology of HBR main and natural, its practically imposible to keep your marines clumped
PredY
Profile Joined September 2009
Czech Republic1731 Posts
January 01 2010 10:28 GMT
#919
i thought flash had too many scv, he could have cut some in order to get turrets up. his eco would still be good
http://www.twitch.tv/czelpredy
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
January 01 2010 10:28 GMT
#920
wtf company of heroes
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
Prev 1 44 45 46 47 48 122 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
IPSL
02:00
Ro24 Group F
Art_Of_Turtle vs KameZerg
Radley vs George
Airneanach127
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ProTech122
BRAT_OK 48
MindelVK 23
StarCraft: Brood War
Rain 1242
Shuttle 430
firebathero 84
Zeus 70
Hm[arnc] 24
soO 10
Dota 2
Gorgc6185
qojqva2499
Counter-Strike
pashabiceps2824
allub277
gobbtv183
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King54
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor381
Other Games
Grubby2278
Liquid`RaSZi2115
Beastyqt642
zeus335
syndereN213
UpATreeSC17
Railgan12
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick4257
EGCTV969
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 49
• Reevou 13
• maralekos1
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• Michael_bg 9
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Other Games
• imaqtpie1033
• Shiphtur450
Upcoming Events
BSL
54m
Artosis vs Dewalt
Ret vs Tech
SOOP
14h 54m
soO vs FanTaSy
WardiTV Weekly
16h 54m
Replay Cast
1d 3h
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 21h
PiGosaur Cup
2 days
The PondCast
2 days
GSL
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
KCM Race Survival
4 days
[ Show More ]
RSL Revival
5 days
BSL
6 days
eOnzErG vs StRyKeR
Cross vs JDConan
RSL Revival
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-11-14
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HCC Season 3

Ongoing

Acropolis #5
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
International ShieldBattery League
BSL Season 23
IPSL Winter 2026-27
Calamity Cup Div. A Season 8
Underdog Cup 2026 Div 2-3
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026

Upcoming

YSL S4
Sector 591
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
StarCraft2 Weekly Open Tournament 2026 Grand Finals
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
IEM Kraków 2027
PGL Bucharest 2027
BLAST Bounty Winter 2027
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.