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Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17731 Posts
January 01 2010 10:26 GMT
#901
On January 01 2010 19:23 mog87 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2010 19:17 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
light take note



Yes....Light finds these notes not so helpful...but realizes losing your medics is bad. Surely this information is the final key he needs to defeat kwanro.

look at flash's speedling defense. Look at light's simcity vs kwanro.
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
FireGuyX
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1712 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-01 10:28:12
January 01 2010 10:26 GMT
#902
On January 01 2010 19:24 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2010 19:23 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On January 01 2010 19:22 Avidkeystamper wrote:
On January 01 2010 19:21 TwoToneTerran wrote:
gg I hate HBR.

Dude, listen to Day 9's podcast. Nothing wrong with muta harass on HBR.


I have watched every single Day9 podcast, and as much as I love him, I will take Flash's word and the Z domination on the map as evidence. >:[


Statistically its balanced in zvt. But of course if flash loses it has to be the map not because he got outplayed. you flash fanboys are really pathetic T_T.

Go Calm win game 3 and 4 .



Yeah I admit, it had more to do with Calm playing better, although I am rooting for Flash.
Flash, ForGG, and Movie fan.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
January 01 2010 10:26 GMT
#903
On January 01 2010 19:25 StRyKeR wrote:
When Flash takes a risk and it pays off, it's brilliance. When he takes a risk and it doesn't pan out, it's map imba.

We need more Zerg fans in this room!


+1 its very pathetic tbh and annoying.
When I think of something else, something will go here
DragoonPK
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
3259 Posts
January 01 2010 10:26 GMT
#904
Calm go win this and avenge JD's LOSS!! YEAHHHHHBRAIN ZERG! <3
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
January 01 2010 10:26 GMT
#905
On January 01 2010 19:25 alffla wrote:
did calm do gaspool before 2nd hatch or just noraml 12 hatch this time? o _O


12hatch.
Remember Violet.
Atrioc
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States1865 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-01 10:27:25
January 01 2010 10:26 GMT
#906
On January 01 2010 19:23 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2010 19:22 Avidkeystamper wrote:
On January 01 2010 19:21 TwoToneTerran wrote:
gg I hate HBR.

Dude, listen to Day 9's podcast. Nothing wrong with muta harass on HBR.


I have watched every single Day9 podcast, and as much as I love him, I will take Flash's word and the Z domination on the map as evidence. >:[


Both versions of HBR have above 50% win for Terran in TvZ

really cannot blame the map for calm's good play
Writerman what
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
January 01 2010 10:26 GMT
#907
There is nothing imbalanced about HBR, jesus christ lol. Calm did a good build, Flash didn't react 100% properly, and that cost him the game, end of story.
TranslatorBaa!
DoX.)
Profile Joined December 2008
Singapore6164 Posts
January 01 2010 10:27 GMT
#908
On January 01 2010 19:25 alffla wrote:
did calm do gaspool before 2nd hatch or just noraml 12 hatch this time? o _O

normal 12 hatch i think
Devolved
Profile Joined April 2008
United States2753 Posts
January 01 2010 10:27 GMT
#909
On January 01 2010 19:25 Chen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2010 19:23 yhnmk wrote:
lol everyones screaming "calms muta micro sucks" "never two hatch against flash" then he does it and it works. People need to stop jumping over people all the time. Calms muta micro is fine and two hatch is valid even if its not 100% standard anymore. GG. Looks like this will be a closer series than I first thought.

did you watch the first game? It was ridiculously bad. He looked like a different person this game

The only reason it looked bad was because Flash's micro, timing, and defense were perfect, unlike in the second game.
$♥$
ssj114
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Afghanistan461 Posts
January 01 2010 10:27 GMT
#910
So close to 2400 ELO too Flash. I don't think he can get there tonight now.
Sandboxie + SUA + DEP, Windows Firewall + NAT Router
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17731 Posts
January 01 2010 10:27 GMT
#911
calm mostly won because he sniped that key turret with muta+ling and abused the cliff while flash had no range or vision.
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
FireGuyX
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1712 Posts
January 01 2010 10:27 GMT
#912
Flash is pissed, you don't want to get Flash pissed, just ask Zero.
Flash, ForGG, and Movie fan.
mog87
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1586 Posts
January 01 2010 10:28 GMT
#913
On January 01 2010 19:26 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2010 19:23 mog87 wrote:
On January 01 2010 19:17 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
light take note



Yes....Light finds these notes not so helpful...but realizes losing your medics is bad. Surely this information is the final key he needs to defeat kwanro.

look at flash's speedling defense. Look at light's simcity vs kwanro.



I know your point was valid, I was just being facetious with regard to the results, I realize that may not convey easily on a e-forum.
Coffee
Profile Joined March 2008
United Kingdom347 Posts
January 01 2010 10:28 GMT
#914



Statistics don't tell everything, you put up the wrong built against zergs on HBR it usually equals doom.


this is true for almost any map..
Jakalo
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Latvia2350 Posts
January 01 2010 10:28 GMT
#915
On January 01 2010 19:24 Demand2k wrote:
too bad terran can't recover from anything


Terrans are the ultimate turtle power. What are you talking about
Nostalgia is not as good as it used to be.
muramasa
Profile Joined March 2005
Canada1299 Posts
January 01 2010 10:28 GMT
#916
Flash apologists = scum

Whenever he loses it's because of map imba, because he made a mistake, cheese, or pretty much any excuse but that he got outplayed.
Hong Jin Ho. Nevar forget.
viewer
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada662 Posts
January 01 2010 10:28 GMT
#917
i fuckin hate hbr but that was pretty obvious what happened there guys
johanes
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Czech Republic2229 Posts
January 01 2010 10:28 GMT
#918
On January 01 2010 19:25 Devolved wrote:
Flash never had his marines grouped together well (they were in a line) and the two medics that got sniped were nowhere near the rines. Flash lost this game, plain and simple. Calm's micro was pretty similar in the two games, but Flash had why better rine micro and defense in game 1.

the thing is, given the topology of HBR main and natural, its practically imposible to keep your marines clumped
PredY
Profile Joined September 2009
Czech Republic1731 Posts
January 01 2010 10:28 GMT
#919
i thought flash had too many scv, he could have cut some in order to get turrets up. his eco would still be good
http://www.twitch.tv/czelpredy
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
January 01 2010 10:28 GMT
#920
wtf company of heroes
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
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