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Poll: Who do you think will win?
(Vote): KT Rolster
(Vote): Hite Sparkyz
Poll: Who are you rooting for?
(Vote): KT Rolster
(Vote): Hite Sparkyz
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KT should have this easy.
I wouldn't even put Leta as a fav over Tempest at this point.
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looks like hite is going to get mauled
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is awesome32274 Posts
Hrmmm I like the predictions.
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3-0 KT
leta prob won't beat tempest lol
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KT 3-1 i guess, poor hite... 
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KT always has trouble with Hite. 3-2 KT, one of Firefist/tempest will probably drop their game. Also, it's not impossible for Flash to lose. The last time he had a really incredible TvZ build, it got mauled by yarnc due to late turrets.
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Sorry, I mistyped "KT" and "Sparkyz" in the title. It's not standardized now... If a mod can change this?
This is my first thread ever lol.
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KT will have an easy win. probably just leta will take it
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KT should take this 3-0.
Go KT!
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KTR 3-1 is what most likely to happen.
Firefist is like Hyuk, very good in ZvZ, meh in the other two MUs. And HoGil is like *check TLPD* holy fuck! 22% ZvZ in his career, seriously? I thought Zero's ZvZ was bad.
Leta should grab Hite's only win due to the map favor, and that Tempest is not any significant threat, as long as he doesn't 2-port in TvP.
Even though YarnSee's ZvT is top notch, I don't see him taking a game from Flash here. Against any other Terran, I would call this a toss-up. But this is motherfucking Flash we're talking about.
Violet should wrap it up ezpz for KTR because who the fuck is herb?
to LorD_PaLmersToN: lol @ your closer prediction, I knew you made a mistake posting in the wrong thread but it just seems too troll'ish, it's hilarious.
edit: on a side note, Leta played like shit lately so fuck him, KTR 3-0 ezpz ...
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
Wow, unless something major happens, I don't see any chance of Hite even scrapping out a win.
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Sparkyz will take this either 3-0 or 3-2. Quote me on it.
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MrHoon
10183 Posts
GOOOOOOOOOO KTTTTTTTTTTTT
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On November 28 2009 10:06 MrHoon wrote:
GOOOOOOOOOO KTTTTTTTTTTTT
Agreed!
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On November 28 2009 10:04 asdfTT123 wrote:
Sparkyz will take this either 3-0 or 3-2. Quote me on it.
quoted, but won't happen
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Yarnc actually has the highest ZvT Elo right now, I hope he puts up a good fight.
Can't wait to see Flash's new TvZ against someone who isn't a total failure at ZvT (not counting Effort, who he dismantled pretty ezpz)
3-0 or 3-1 KT
Ace map is good for Terran too, so even if hite pulls a 2-2 miracle, they have to face Flash in ace.
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Psh, gonna be a ezpz rape for KT.
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hopefully yarnc aint slumping in his zvt so we can actually see him get raped by flash in a good game.
tee hee
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On November 28 2009 09:59 nayumi wrote:
KTR 3-1 is what most likely to happen.
to LorD_PaLmersToN: lol @ your closer prediction, I knew you made a mistake posting in the wrong thread but it Jus seems too troll'ish, it's hilarious.
Umm that was an embarrasing post..... at least some people could have missed it if they didn't check the spoiler, but that dream is over . POST NOOB RIGHT HERE!
+ Show Spoiler +
+ Show Spoiler +
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hogil playing zerg oh dear get ready for some epic fail
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unfortunate how bad his zvz is considering his zvp/zvt are really strong.
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luls, don't even need lux
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Hopefully it does make it to the fourth set though, PvP's on outsider always have the potential to be really amazing.
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On November 28 2009 10:30 Count9 wrote:
luls, don't even need lux
Luxury and Yarnc are actually one. He plays for two teams so obviously he can't appear twice in a match.
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On November 28 2009 10:36 nayumi wrote:Luxury and Yarnc are actually one. He plays for two teams so obviously he can't appear twice in a match.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO BELIEVE ANYMORE
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A body double obviously, that's how conspiracy works.
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konadora
Singapore66163 Posts
proper capitalized title plz
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On November 28 2009 10:47 konadora wrote:
proper capitalized title plz
Yeah, I asked a mod on page one I'm really sorry for this. Won't happen again.
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If this goes to ace, I don't think sparkz is stupid enough to send out a terran.
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KT ROLSTER HWAITING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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On November 28 2009 09:43 Nevuk wrote:
KT always has trouble with Hite. 3-2 KT, one of Firefist/tempest will probably drop their game. Also, it's not impossible for Flash to lose. The last time he had a really incredible TvZ build, it got mauled by yarnc due to late turrets.
QFT, for some reason KT has a rough time against Hite. Right now they're on two different levels but I won't underestimate Hite since they have some sort of aura against KT.
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i dont even care about hite, i just want leta to win
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your ogn link is broken and i don't know why
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Well, I took the exact same link you gave to me
EDIT : Fixed, I searched on others LR thread and found the right one.
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On November 28 2009 12:25 Pepsicolaone wrote:
hoping for 3-0 KT it might happen
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Flash fanboy's ITT. Gogo Leta!
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On November 28 2009 12:43 myfriendPlank wrote:
Flash fanboy's ITT. Gogo Leta!
That's right, Flash fanboy's represent!
Yarnc gonna get smashed.
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On November 28 2009 09:43 Nevuk wrote:
KT always has trouble with Hite. 3-2 KT, one of Firefist/tempest will probably drop their game. Also, it's not impossible for Flash to lose. The last time he had a really incredible TvZ build, it got mauled by yarnc due to late turrets.
His recent performance suggest something else ^^
3:1 KT
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KT HWAITING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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damn stream is maxed!
updates please!! 
KT HWAITINGGGGG!!!! :D
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Anyone else see only blackness on ogn.ferron.pe?
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Caller is still not streaming, sadly
Edit : theqat : it's working for me
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On November 28 2009 13:04 theqat wrote:
Anyone else see only blackness on ogn.ferron.pe?
no.. it seems fine
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Always amazes me how SKT gets a million streams and KT gets 1.
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Mystlord
United States10264 Posts
I pray for good internet tonight.
tv.zeroboy.net/mystlord
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KT Sense v. Hite Zerg (how creative).
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On November 28 2009 13:06 Tyxiquale wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2009 13:04 theqat wrote:
Anyone else see only blackness on ogn.ferron.pe? no.. it seems fine
Tried IE instead of FF and it worked.
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Firefist going for fast lair, Yarnc going for speed first. Both did a variation of 12pool FE
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Firefist going for speedlings.
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Why did Hogil back off? Anyways, he delayed long enough for same spire timing. I don't think FF has speed yet. Hogil does.
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Oh, I just realized that Firefist changed his aka to Sense. Much better name imo.
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Firefist comes out ahead in a ling battle.
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Hite is really good at producing one matchup wunderkind players.
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firefist wins!
it means my trade in fantasy is already very lucrative
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Oh yea... I love KT. I don't even remember what it is like for my team to lose.... YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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At least that's over. GOGOGOGO LETA!!!!
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Wow that was soild by firefist
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Tempest v Leta on Matchpoint.
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kk, Tempest. Lets bring the thunder.
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i have a feeling leta is gonna win.
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Leta's pretty weak against P and has been pretty bad this last month. That said I still think he's the favorite here.
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Why do i have a feeling Leta's gonna lose.
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On November 28 2009 13:26 Sigh wrote:
Why do i have a feeling Leta's gonna lose. Probably because you felt like being WRONG
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This game has a high probability of ghosts if it goes on longer than 10 minutes.
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White guy taping the action? lol.
Is that a hard wall by Tempest?....
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On November 28 2009 13:26 Zozma wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2009 13:26 Sigh wrote:
Why do i have a feeling Leta's gonna lose. Probably because you felt like being WRONG
Leta lost his last match against tempest and is very weak vs protoss.so many people think this way.
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Both going standard so far.
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lawl. GOOGOGOGOGOGOGOO VIOLET
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On November 28 2009 13:29 BloodDrunK wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2009 13:26 Zozma wrote:On November 28 2009 13:26 Sigh wrote:
Why do i have a feeling Leta's gonna lose. Probably because you felt like being WRONG Leta lost his last match against tempest and is very weak vs protoss.so many people think this way. And many people are WRONG
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Tempest probably also feels quite pressured to win this match. With Violet and stats doing so good lately he probably won't get many more chances unless he wins this one
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walloff scout for Leta
Violet 1 gate gas core
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Quick shot of Violet looking happy about tempest's gateway placement.
Aw, seeing Violet reminds me that the winner's interview after his Ace match win never did get translated. Oh well.
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DSLKFJLSD:FKJ
SORRY!!! TEMPEST
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Leta tries for early pressure but doesn't get anywhere, both players put down expo.
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Templar archives down, 2 base arbiters.
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super fast arbiters. Should be good on this map.
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Tempest needs more probes on that gas!
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Damn DT!
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Nice mine drags by Tempest
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tempest doing a really bad job at stopping reinforcmens but dts and speedzeals save the day...
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those were some sexy mine drags
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Recall gets cleaned up pretty easily.
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That push still did enough damage, Tempest was on 1 base to Leta's 2 (and 3 ) for way too long.
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oh wow how did that get killed so fast, huge failure
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Why the fuck would he recall at that point in the game? What was the point?
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Both players grabbing their 4ths. Doesn't look good for Tempest.
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This game has to get to nukes
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Leta tosses away a fair amount of units in a failed push. He got some goons early though I guess.
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Tempest isn't really that good at the recall thing.
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Recall at Leta's 3rd is infinitely more successful than his first, it was probably an even exchange.
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this is so over, leta can nuke the shit out of tempest if he wants, do it leta
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Leta kills a bunch of probes and sticks his tongue out
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that stasis was nice, my biased terran self still hoping for nukes later on
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Tempest shuts down Leta's 4th and an arbiter gets a kill!
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arbiters are an imbalanced unit
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ppppppppprrrrrrrrooooooooooootttttttttttooooooooooooossssssssssssssssssss
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Nm, good stasis by Tempest ends Leta's push.
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On November 28 2009 13:50 revy wrote:
good stasis by Tempest ends Leta's push.
ya he sure clicked on those units well
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On November 28 2009 13:50 IdrA wrote:
ppppppppprrrrrrrrooooooooooootttttttttttooooooooooooossssssssssssssssssss
No shit.
This game makes me so sad.
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3 mining expos for tempest 1 for leta.
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On November 28 2009 13:50 IdrA wrote:
ppppppppprrrrrrrrooooooooooootttttttttttooooooooooooossssssssssssssssssss
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On November 28 2009 13:52 myfriendPlank wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2009 13:50 IdrA wrote:
ppppppppprrrrrrrrooooooooooootttttttttttooooooooooooossssssssssssssssssss
Sums up my thoughts as a Terran player. Doesn't matter if you have better mechanics and everything.
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gg, tempest wins 2 - 0 kt!
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On November 28 2009 13:50 IdrA wrote:
ppppppppprrrrrrrrooooooooooootttttttttttooooooooooooossssssssssssssssssss fourthed
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leta did not take that...... 3-0
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My predictions were wrong
Anyway, I hope my banner was good enough to have wrong predictions!
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On November 28 2009 13:50 IdrA wrote:
ppppppppprrrrrrrrooooooooooootttttttttttooooooooooooossssssssssssssssssss
QFMFT
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Tempest played very well that game, aside from a couple of lame recalls. Make as many "Protoss is so easy" jokes as you want, but Leta could've played better.
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hehe terrans are so whiny. I offrace as terran and its actually my best race, despite no practice with it.
I found tvp especially easy. Cry now! hehe
I knew Tempest would take it.
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Leta leta leta. tsk tsk tsk.
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Leta had no vessels and got stasis'd to death that game.
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On November 28 2009 13:26 Zozma wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2009 13:26 Sigh wrote:
Why do i have a feeling Leta's gonna lose. Probably because you felt like being WRONG
^_^
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On November 28 2009 13:56 yhnmk wrote:
hehe terrans are so whiny. I offrace as terran and its actually my best race, despite no practice with it.
I found tvp especially easy. Cry now! hehe
I knew Tempest would take it.
Yer so full of crap yer eyes are brown
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Flash looking sharp! A true test for his revamped TvZ incoming
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On November 28 2009 13:57 DyEnasTy wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2009 13:56 yhnmk wrote:
hehe terrans are so whiny. I offrace as terran and its actually my best race, despite no practice with it.
I found tvp especially easy. Cry now! hehe
I knew Tempest would take it. Yer so full of crap yer eyes are brown nope lol, first time I hit d+ was casually raping shit as terran. its the REAL ez race.
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On November 28 2009 13:56 yhnmk wrote:
hehe terrans are so whiny. I offrace as terran and its actually my best race, despite no practice with it.
I found tvp especially easy. Cry now! hehe
I knew Tempest would take it.
Yeah dude, get stasis'd a billion times then lets talk about it. Okay?
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On November 28 2009 13:58 myfriendPlank wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2009 13:56 yhnmk wrote:
hehe terrans are so whiny. I offrace as terran and its actually my best race, despite no practice with it.
I found tvp especially easy. Cry now! hehe
I knew Tempest would take it. Yeah dude, get stasis'd a billion times then lets talk about it. Okay? I've played terran. I've been stasised a billion times. But I had solace in the riggedness of my vultures and tanks, and they saw me through.
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On November 28 2009 13:59 yhnmk wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2009 13:58 myfriendPlank wrote:On November 28 2009 13:56 yhnmk wrote:
hehe terrans are so whiny. I offrace as terran and its actually my best race, despite no practice with it.
I found tvp especially easy. Cry now! hehe
I knew Tempest would take it. Yeah dude, get stasis'd a billion times then lets talk about it. Okay? I've played terran. I've been stasised a billion times. But I had solace in the riggedness of my vultures and tanks, and they saw me through.
Then again, most D-Level Protoss's are garbage anyways.
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On November 28 2009 14:01 Lebesgue wrote:
Don't feed the troll!
I sorry boss
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CA10828 Posts
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yes flash incoming, this is what i am awake for
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On November 28 2009 14:07 IPS.ZeRo wrote:
yes flash incoming, this is what i am awake for
Same.
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Flash fighting! Hoping for a GG
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flashs eye is twitching
rape incoming
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prepare for some epic flash rape.
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Go Flash! Make us scream out ''TERRAN IMBA'' after this game. 
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REALLY? Another team other than SKT decided to field TWO Protosses instead of 2 zergs? Is this still 2009?
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Flash at 12
MS (Yarnc) at 5
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On November 28 2009 14:10 WheelOfTime wrote:
REALLY? Another team other than SKT decided to field TWO Protosses instead of 2 zergs? Is this still 2009?
yes
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On November 28 2009 14:10 WheelOfTime wrote:
REALLY? Another team other than SKT decided to field TWO Protosses instead of 2 zergs? Is this still 2009?
Khan's done it a few times already. KT probably thinks of this as a practice match, no lux, no 815, no ForGG.
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12 hatch from Yarnc
1 rax from Flash
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
Flash has recently had a few opportunities to beat zergs which have had his number in the past. First Kwanro, now Yarnc. Flash is 2-4 against Yarnc.
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Flash's SCV gets raped. Suck it Flash.
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LOL LUX IS LIKE SINCE WHEN DO DRONES OWN SCV'S.
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On November 28 2009 14:11 Chen wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2009 14:10 WheelOfTime wrote:
REALLY? Another team other than SKT decided to field TWO Protosses instead of 2 zergs? Is this still 2009? Khan's done it a few times already. KT probably thinks of this as a practice match, no lux, no 815, no ForGG.
Fuck 815 and ForGG. Both of them suck
Lux , Flash , Violet , and Hoejja is their starters xD
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;] cute . Lux looking proud
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Looked like for a second Yarnc was drinking from a straw and playing Flash at the same time.
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The video was cooked, they are trying to make us believe that they are two people.
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haha I loved how they showed Lux face for that scv death
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1 rax expand from Flash with no scout
Yarnc looks like 2 hatch lair
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Oh god, Flash doesn't know what's coming at all
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On November 28 2009 14:14 Hinanawi wrote:Oh god, Flash doesn't know what's coming at all
2 Hatch mutalisk is a pretty safe assumption nowadays, especially when they drone block like that.
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DOUBLE BREAK MNM AT YARNC
MUTALS AT FLASH
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Weird decision by Yarnc to counter.
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God most Flash TvZ's are just go for sunk timing.
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Flash gets turrets up
this is over for yarnc it seems
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looks good for yarnc
edit: ok ill admit that was a little too cheeky
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YES flash please lose okay nvm flash wins most likely 2 base terran vs 1.5 base zerg.
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On November 28 2009 14:17 lazz wrote:
looks good for yarnc
how
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Are you fucking kidding me? WHAT THE FUCK?
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3-0000000000000000000000
Nice KT!
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Yarnc's muta micro kinda sloppy, but oh well, Flash played calmly and won easily.
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On November 28 2009 14:17 lazz wrote:
looks good for yarnc
Eh? confused here
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Haha oh wow, what is this I don't even...
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
Damn, Flash is good. Seems invincible.
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9-1 KT HWAITING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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kt fast rape
boring, boring, boring
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flash is looking really good, like physically. looks healthy
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United States12607 Posts
Flash is a god these days, holy crap
I guess Yarnc didn't watch his OSL game vs. Kwanro?
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lol yarnc what bad decision, he should have pulled his mutas and defended his nat.
KT wins 3-0!
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lmao KT Rolster are ruining EVERYONE
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Nice from Flash that sunken timing was perfect
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Hahaha why would Yarnc counter? That was horrible decision-making.
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Game wasn't great to watch but man oh man Flash's confidence is ridiculous.
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What a rape. Jesus...
Flash is a monster
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On November 28 2009 14:17 ReketSomething wrote:
why so fast gg...
what? He clearly lost badly
the muta harass was ineffective and once flash neutered it he was just gonna get rolled in the next 2 minutes
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The ONLY thing that went wrong today is that Violet didn't get to get his seventh win.
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On November 28 2009 14:17 ReketSomething wrote:
why so fast gg...
Yarnc was down his Natural, he had just lost like 4 of his 7 mutalisks, and his harass overall didn't do as enough damage.
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What will Flash's elo be now?
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R1 is COMPLETELY dominated by KT, they seem invincible
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so, what was it?
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shame that yarnc didn't see all those m&m moving only few of them... thinking that 1 late sunken is good or just force flash to come back...
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On November 28 2009 14:17 ReketSomething wrote:
why so fast gg...
Yarnc's economy couldn't produce Mutas on a mass level and his Mutas were about to be finished off.
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Yarnc got greedy.. As if he can harass a great turret defense by Flash
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Something about this match in ALL CAPS
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the ultimate weapon strikes again
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LOL why would Yarnc only build one sunken, and so late too? I don't get it. If he assumed Flash would just return to his base, he wouldn't need any sunkens. If he thought Flash was going to attack he would've either needed to use his mutas to help defend or build more sunkens. One sunken does absolutely nothing.
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Korea (South)3086 Posts
Flash has the godliest decision making ever. Props to crazy-ass play.
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That was pretty fucking horrible by Yarnc though as much as I would like to say Flash is a genius lol. Like, you put down the third hatch but then decide you'd rather counter and go for the short game?
Eek
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On November 28 2009 14:20 QuakerOats wrote:
LOL why would Yarnc only build one sunken, and so late too? I don't get it. If he assumed Flash would just return to his base, he wouldn't need any sunkens. If he thought Flash was going to attack he would've either needed to use his mutas to help defend or build more sunkens. One sunken does absolutely nothing.
He didn't see correct count of m&m because they did split.
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Incredible timing once again. Don't think zerg can get 3rd expo hatch against Flash that early if they want a chance.
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Uh yeah, Yarnc should not have countered. Period.
Flash v. Yarnc outside of results spoiler, on purpose?
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On November 28 2009 14:19 zenkicker wrote:
Yarnc got greedy.. As if he can harass a great turret defense by Flash
Actually, he can do that. Pretty much all the time.
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That was complete Domination X_X
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On November 28 2009 14:19 nayumi wrote:
flash is such a nice guy, now we can watch the other match up without losing anything
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Well one sunken doesn't do a whole lot even vs a small number of M&M. It's not like Flash was going to attack with just 4 marines or something.
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why do all zergs die to flash b4 10minute mark
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It was a weird way for the game to go but I guess that shows why you have to send mutas after that first MnM group.
I'm not sure about Yarnc's choice for an early 3rd expo with Flash's ultra aggressive TvZ lately.
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He made 2 Sunks but they were late. He assumed flash had only six rines because that's what he scouted.
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Flash is so good OMFG! I'm so happy right now.
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I'm kind of disappointed with how quickly Flash wins against Zerg lately. I want to see late-game play again...
I guess I have to watch Fantasy play if I want to see a TvZ game last more than 10 minutes.
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MrHoon
10183 Posts
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MrHoon
10183 Posts
<MrHoon> "I wasn't trying to finish the game so quick... I just wish my opponents would stop being so greedy (laughs). I think they're trying to play against the Older Me"
<MrHoon> - Flash
<MrHoon> "Unless you get blessed by God, I don't think you will beat me ever again"
<MrHoon> "Unless you're stork"
<MrHoon> - Flash
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konadora
Singapore66163 Posts
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At least Violet didn't get the chance to further ruin my FPL.
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lol
Did he really say that?
Can't wait for him vs Stork. Will be lots of fun...
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On November 28 2009 14:29 MrHoon wrote:
<MrHoon> "I wasn't trying to finish the game so quick... I just wish my opponents would stop being so greedy (laughs). I think they're trying to play against the Older Me"
<MrHoon> - Flash
<MrHoon> "Unless you get blessed by God, I don't think you will beat me ever again"
<MrHoon> "Unless you're stork"
<MrHoon> - Flash
Mad respect for Stork, lol.
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That game was sick, Flash is looking amazingly strong. This OSL is going to be off the hook.
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On November 28 2009 14:31 TwoToneTerran wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2009 14:29 MrHoon wrote:
<MrHoon> "I wasn't trying to finish the game so quick... I just wish my opponents would stop being so greedy (laughs). I think they're trying to play against the Older Me"
<MrHoon> - Flash
<MrHoon> "Unless you get blessed by God, I don't think you will beat me ever again"
<MrHoon> "Unless you're stork"
<MrHoon> - Flash Mad respect for Stork, lol.
I'd be afraid of Stork too if I had to play him in OSL next week on Heartbreak
Why couldn't they have had Flash vs Stork on one of the new maps?? Or just not Heartbreak =(
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Someone go update TLPD I want to see new ELO results =).
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On November 28 2009 14:29 MrHoon wrote:
<MrHoon> "I wasn't trying to finish the game so quick... I just wish my opponents would stop being so greedy (laughs). I think they're trying to play against the Older Me"
<MrHoon> - Flash
<MrHoon> "Unless you get blessed by God, I don't think you will beat me ever again"
<MrHoon> "Unless you're stork"
<MrHoon> - Flash
BALLER
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On November 28 2009 14:32 revy wrote:
Someone go update TLPD I want to see new ELO results =).
edit- Actually I might be wrong. I'm not sure how TL Elo works specifically.
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Tempest is not a bad player I don't know why KT Rolster don't use him as much.
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On the contrary, Tempest is a very inconsistent player. But this match further proves how overrated Leta is.
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KT's lineup looks really deep lately, I think they'll do just as amazing in the best of 7 format later on.
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On November 28 2009 14:34 FireGuyX wrote:
Tempest is not a bad player I don't know why KT Rolster don't use him as much.
Stats and Violet are just better. He'd definitely get play time over Sangho or some other tosses on weaker teams.
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On November 28 2009 14:34 FireGuyX wrote:
Tempest is not a bad player I don't know why KT Rolster don't use him as much.
Because they have Violet, Luxury, Stats, 815, Forgg and Firefist as well.
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One more victory, and they finish R1 with an amazing 10-1 record.
When's the last time a team finished R1 with a better record?
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I'm not sure how ELO works, is it based off your total ELO or your vRace ELO? If it takes into account Yarnc's vT ELO Flash will move up at least 5 points since that's what he moved up vs Kwanro and Yarnc has a higher vT.
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I think that means his TvZ Elo will go up higher but his main elo won't go up as high.
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On November 28 2009 14:35 usopsama wrote:
On the contrary, Tempest is a very inconsistent player. But this match further proves how overrated Leta is.
Leta didn't really play bad at all IMO. His first push died because of one DT making a lucky mine drag, and the Arbiters were just imba.
On November 28 2009 14:29 MrHoon wrote:
<MrHoon> "I wasn't trying to finish the game so quick... I just wish my opponents would stop being so greedy (laughs). I think they're trying to play against the Older Me"
<MrHoon> - Flash
<MrHoon> "Unless you get blessed by God, I don't think you will beat me ever again"
<MrHoon> "Unless you're stork"
<MrHoon> - Flash
<3 Flash!
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On November 28 2009 14:37 revy wrote:
I'm not sure how ELO works, is it based off your total ELO or your vRace ELO? If it takes into account Yarnc's vT ELO Flash will move up at least 5 points since that's what he moved up vs Kwanro and Yarnc has a higher vT.
His overall Elo is compared to Yarnc's overall Elo to calculate how much is added to his overall Elo.
His TvZ Elo is compared to Yarnc's ZvT Elo to calculate how much is added to his TvZ Elo.
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tempest is inconsistent as fuck and plays the most horrible games when on the left side of consistency
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3364, 2nd place all time. =)
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On November 28 2009 14:40 revy wrote:
3364, 2nd place all time. =)
Assuming he can beat Frozean (I DUNNO MAN IT'S GONNA BE TUFF), he's got #1 Elo peak of all time in the bag, now.
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Frozean is the world's most silly top player sniper.
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Elo updated, Flash is 1 point above Jaedong's all time high now. One more win and he breaks Bisu's. His vZ elo is now above Boxer's, as well. 6 points behind Nada's.
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I think 3 points is the smallest gain I've ever seen but who knows Frozean has a low ELO. It may move Flash up to only tie Bisu.
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Sorry but Leta is such a chobo compared to the ace players on other teams. I'm glad he's getting roflstomped all over the place nowadays.
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On November 28 2009 14:45 alexpnd wrote:Frozean won't beat flash. + Show Spoiler +
DON'T JINX
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misread something. disregard my post
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FLASHFLASHFLASHKTKTKTKTKTKT Wow it feels good to be a KT fans these days
Anyone remember the days when Flash was the only player capable of winning for KT?
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On November 28 2009 14:56 nozaro33 wrote:
FLASHFLASHFLASHKTKTKTKTKTKT Wow it feels good to be a KT fans these days
Anyone remember the days when Flash was the only player capable of winning for KT?
KT vs CJ. =(
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On November 28 2009 14:56 nozaro33 wrote:
FLASHFLASHFLASHKTKTKTKTKTKT Wow it feels good to be a KT fans these days
Anyone remember the days when Flash was the only player capable of winning for KT?
It's my second season following but I picked the right team to begin with. All because flash.
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On November 28 2009 14:35 Hinanawi wrote:
KT's lineup looks really deep lately, I think they'll do just as amazing in the best of 7 format later on.
Firefist > Hogil isn't depth, and Tempest, well everyone else already said it.
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On November 28 2009 14:45 alexpnd wrote:Frozean won't beat flash. + Show Spoiler +
Frozean plays T. This should answer your question.
+ Show Spoiler +Flash wants to achieve 20 game winning streak in TvT
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On November 28 2009 14:58 Count9 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2009 14:35 Hinanawi wrote:
KT's lineup looks really deep lately, I think they'll do just as amazing in the best of 7 format later on. Firefist > Hogil isn't depth, and Tempest, well everyone else already said it.
KT has 3 viable protoss, 4 viable zerg, and 2 viable terrans (one being FLASH) for PL. They are a very high depth team when they're performing.
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On November 28 2009 15:08 TwoToneTerran wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2009 14:58 Count9 wrote:On November 28 2009 14:35 Hinanawi wrote:
KT's lineup looks really deep lately, I think they'll do just as amazing in the best of 7 format later on. Firefist > Hogil isn't depth, and Tempest, well everyone else already said it. KT has 3 viable protoss, 4 viable zerg, and 2 viable terrans (one being FLASH) for PL. They are a very high depth team when they're performing. They've got the most depth actually. lol.
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Since CJ lost Much and Kwanro? Probably. STX is good competition.
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On November 28 2009 15:08 TwoToneTerran wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2009 14:58 Count9 wrote:On November 28 2009 14:35 Hinanawi wrote:
KT's lineup looks really deep lately, I think they'll do just as amazing in the best of 7 format later on. Firefist > Hogil isn't depth, and Tempest, well everyone else already said it. KT has 3 viable protoss, 4 viable zerg, and 2 viable terrans (one being FLASH) for PL. They are a very high depth team when they're performing.
<Insert "no they only have 1 viable Terran" ForGG joke here>
I think ForGG gets made fun of more than any other player on TL.
But I agree, the Lux/Hoejja/Firefist/815 and Violet/Stats/Tempest groups are really solid.
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FLASH
WELCOME THE FUCK BACK MAN
WE MISSED YOU
GO WIN THE OSL AGAIN OK?
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ForGG may not be the best but he's STILL viable when you need 2 T's.
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On November 28 2009 14:58 Count9 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2009 14:35 Hinanawi wrote:
KT's lineup looks really deep lately, I think they'll do just as amazing in the best of 7 format later on. Firefist > Hogil isn't depth, and Tempest, well everyone else already said it.
Flash, Luxury, and Violet have been the most dominate trio in PL R1 so far. Aside from that they also have Firefist, Hoejja, 815, and Stats who are all decent (not great). Oh and ForGG can be good if he ever gets out of his slump. That's depth.
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If someone would've told me last season that KT was the deepest team in PL I would've died laughing.
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On November 28 2009 15:11 TwoToneTerran wrote:
ForGG may not be the best but he's STILL viable when you need 2 T's. only his tvp is actually bad. If his tvp was as good as his tvt [which is decent enough] he'd be known as a respectable terran. But considering hes got one good mu, one decent, and one terrible, he works out to be a shitty and unreliable player in most peoples eyes.
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On November 28 2009 15:12 Holgerius wrote:
If someone would've told me last season that KT was the deepest team in PL I would've died laughing.
Did you not see R5? =(
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I was thinking overall; all I remember is KTFlash.
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KT, it is time to prepare for rematch against cj the 6th of december. I want revenge!
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wow wtf result.
I have Firefist and Tempest in my FPL
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On November 28 2009 10:04 asdfTT123 wrote:
Sparkyz will take this either 3-0 or 3-2. Quote me on it.
sure
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On November 28 2009 14:12 DreaM)XeRO wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2009 14:11 Chen wrote:On November 28 2009 14:10 WheelOfTime wrote:
REALLY? Another team other than SKT decided to field TWO Protosses instead of 2 zergs? Is this still 2009? Khan's done it a few times already. KT probably thinks of this as a practice match, no lux, no 815, no ForGG. Fuck 815 and ForGG. Both of them suck Lux , Flash , Violet , and Hoejja is their starters xD
i cant believe ur saying 815 and forgg suck. they arent THAT good or anything but both are pretty reliable as back up players (sometimes ace when e.g. 815 on blue storm), knowing that forgg does kinda fuck up.
815 has like a 2-1 rec against jaedong anyways and he can produce pretty good results man. i remember the "blue storm" days when i think he went like 8-1 for a while, not too sure.
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On November 28 2009 15:13 TwoToneTerran wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2009 15:12 Holgerius wrote:
If someone would've told me last season that KT was the deepest team in PL I would've died laughing. Did you not see R5? =(
round 5 was flash raping it on winners league
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On November 28 2009 20:13 thestool91 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2009 15:13 TwoToneTerran wrote:On November 28 2009 15:12 Holgerius wrote:
If someone would've told me last season that KT was the deepest team in PL I would've died laughing. Did you not see R5? =( round 5 was flash raping it on winners league
Winners league was round 3 I believe. round 5 was when violet became a reliable part of KTs lineup.
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what the hell another 3-0 for KT with FireFist & Tempest?
man they are looking strong now!
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flash going for an ELO of 2400, fuck yeah xD
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Firefist, damn that kid is on a roll
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Haha...God, Flash is on fire with red hot coal burning on his ass. So much for Yarnc being one of the last Zerg capable of stopping Flash.
Can't believe it, KT is seriously the team with the greatest of depth at this point, over CJ.
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On November 29 2009 02:14 dukethegold wrote:
Haha...God, Flash is on fire with red hot coal burning on his ass. So much for Yarnc being one of the last Zerg capable of stopping Flash.
Can't believe it, KT is seriously the team with the greatest of depth at this point, over CJ.
basically, their newcomers have stepped up at the same time: violet, firefist and stats. add a flash on fire and lux who finally came out of his slump and u got a team with great depth. and with flash they also got the strongest ace player right now. the only thing they maybe lack atm is unpredictability when it comes to ace choices. but on the other side... whats the use of knowing that they gonna send flash if u cant stop him anyways?
indeed, the pl set between skt1 and kt looked like a preview to this seasons grand finals. atm i dont see any other team than skt1 who could rival kt.
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Call it Flash vs Jaedong Final for both MSL and OSL. Jaedong might be the only person that can stop him.
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On November 28 2009 15:13 TwoToneTerran wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2009 15:12 Holgerius wrote:
If someone would've told me last season that KT was the deepest team in PL I would've died laughing. Did you not see R5? =(
R5 was Violet stepping up as a support for Flash. Luxury still sucked and others were performing pretty average. This season is VERY different. Seems like there is no weak player on KT anymore. All of them are capable of winning tough games. Plus Violet became a good alternative for an ace...
It is really hard to believe how well KT performs. Especially after such a dismal performance last season when they got their 7th spot by abusing Flash...
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On November 29 2009 03:17 Xiphos wrote:
Call it Flash vs Jaedong Final for both MSL and OSL. Jaedong might be the only person that can stop him.
A really strong Protoss seems like the best bet to me right now. Stork, Bisu, Best and JD are the only players I would give a close to 50/50 chance of beating flash in bo3 right now. Bisu is actually 6-2 against him in 2009, his smart recall play seems to work well against him
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On November 29 2009 03:42 InFiNitY[pG] wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2009 03:17 Xiphos wrote:
Call it Flash vs Jaedong Final for both MSL and OSL. Jaedong might be the only person that can stop him. A really strong Protoss seems like the best bet to me right now. Stork, Bisu, Best and JD are the only players I would give a close to 50/50 chance of beating flash in bo3 right now. Bisu is actually 6-2 against him in 2009, his smart recall play seems to work well against him
vouch, but keep in mind that all those games between bisu and flash have been balanced on a knife´s edge. they could easily turn around by the slightest change in the current form of the players. and since then, flash has improved quite a lot while bisu is stagnating.
lets wait for stork vs flash next week. its gonna rock^^
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that was hyuk style zvt from yellow[arnc] lol :o
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On November 29 2009 03:17 Xiphos wrote:
Call it Flash vs Jaedong Final for both MSL and OSL. Jaedong might be the only person that can stop him.
Or a Protoss. Or some cheeser in a bo3
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I'm very happy about KT's depth, I think that's part of the reason why you see Flash doing so well lately. He does not have to carry his team and as a result he is thriving. I have a feeling you wont see Flash playing in an ACE match very often while he is alive in OSL/MSL this season. It's almost to the point where KT can experiment with putting Flash 4th or not even playing him every game. SKT has done that with Bisu and it's working for him. Aside from his loss to Shine Bisu has been performing very well, just check who has #2 ELO currently. Further, SKT is in 2nd place 2 games behind KT. KT can afford to drop a game here or there to make sure Flash is well rested for when they need him during important series', during playoffs, etc.
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On November 28 2009 14:56 nozaro33 wrote:
FLASHFLASHFLASHKTKTKTKTKTKT Wow it feels good to be a KT fans these days
Anyone remember the days when Flash was the only player capable of winning for KT?
hahaha
you new KT fans have no idea how it feels to be alone
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flash's interview confirms what i had suspected: his win against Yarnc was far from a sure thing -- flash got no scouting of yellow's base, yellow got mutas super quick with no sunkens and only 4 zerglings, flash still hadnt finished his E-bay and had only 3 marines at home when 6 mutas popped -- and it was only his decisiveness in contrast to Yarnc's indecisiveness that won him that game. if yellow had committed to his aggressiveness even after the third hatch and had kept on the offensive, at worst i think it would have been a race to elimination. Yellow even might have had an advantage in this since he got flash to lift his barrakcs: if he had sent just a few more instead of wasting his larvae on zerglings, he might have been able to win.
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Yellow did commit to his aggressiveness though.. that's why he lost. If he pulled back to defend he would have been behind but at least had a chance to keep the game going. By forcing "flash to lift his barracks" he let his natural die and lost the game.. if he pulled back and defended he wouldn't have been able to make Flash lift.. so, he can't be both "more aggressive" and also win the game..
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nah the thing was he might have been aggressive with his mutas but not with his larvae management. utlimately he tried to do too many things: expand, attack, defend. if he had committed his larvae to mutas he would have had more of a chance than trying to defend with lings/sunkens
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On November 29 2009 11:45 d_so wrote:
flash's interview confirms what i had suspected: his win against Yarnc was far from a sure thing -- flash got no scouting of yellow's base, yellow got mutas super quick with no sunkens and only 4 zerglings, flash still hadnt finished his E-bay and had only 3 marines at home when 6 mutas popped -- and it was only his decisiveness in contrast to Yarnc's indecisiveness that won him that game. if yellow had committed to his aggressiveness even after the third hatch and had kept on the offensive, at worst i think it would have been a race to elimination. Yellow even might have had an advantage in this since he got flash to lift his barrakcs: if he had sent just a few more instead of wasting his larvae on zerglings, he might have been able to win.
yeah its really hard to play blind, but yellow was just lucky in the first place denying that scv to scout him... survived at 5! Still, I bet he scanned and count the drones, if you do that you can tell if there are masslings aswell.
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