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On November 28 2009 15:38 iamho wrote: i usually never blame map imba, but those freaking chokes everywhere were just ridiculous. on no other map could a terran with one working base beat a zerg with 5 working bases, even if it was flash vs combat-ex offracing LOL
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I have no idea how Calm won that first game, and I have no idea how Fantasy won that second game.
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On November 28 2009 15:38 Avidkeystamper wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2009 15:38 Chen wrote:On November 28 2009 15:37 DoX.) wrote:On November 28 2009 15:36 JWD wrote: NO IDEA WHAT HAPPENED IN THIS GAME
BUT GO T1 lol this. where are the ultras??!!! Lurker-ling Defiler scourge kinda gas intensive? plus i dont think Ultras would work to well with 10 vessels flying around the map Four gas supports ultras. Basic part of TvZ. this
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On November 28 2009 15:38 Avidkeystamper wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2009 15:38 Chen wrote:On November 28 2009 15:37 DoX.) wrote:On November 28 2009 15:36 JWD wrote: NO IDEA WHAT HAPPENED IN THIS GAME
BUT GO T1 lol this. where are the ultras??!!! Lurker-ling Defiler scourge kinda gas intensive? plus i dont think Ultras would work to well with 10 vessels flying around the map Four gas supports ultras. Basic part of TvZ.
I thought Calm only had 3 gas? After he lost that 4o clock expo, he only had 2 gas.
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On November 28 2009 15:39 Ideas wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2009 15:38 Jaksiel wrote: Seriously though, where the fuck were the cows? he was never really on 4 gas. when his 4th gas expo went up he lost his 3rd gas expo. this. Fantasy always had constant pressure never letting calm's 4th gas to fully get up
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There was no turning point. Calm just slowly let that game slip away from his hands...
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wow Clam's lategame there was just like my crappy D+ play (I'm not bashing his mid game; he held off Fantasy's marines with 8 mutas for like 2 minutes). Fantasy played well for being down by so much - props to him.
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no brilliance by fantasy at all
he just played the most standard possible TvZ known to man
and SOMEHOW with a HUGE HUGE HUGE advantage
calm loses? i mean that's one of the worst chokes i've ever seen in my life
half an army going this way, the other half hanging out doing nothing
awfulawfulwafulwauflwaful
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FAAAAAAANTASYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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How do you fall apart that badly. My gawd man uhh
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On November 28 2009 15:39 Disregard wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2009 15:38 Avidkeystamper wrote:On November 28 2009 15:38 Chen wrote:On November 28 2009 15:37 DoX.) wrote:On November 28 2009 15:36 JWD wrote: NO IDEA WHAT HAPPENED IN THIS GAME
BUT GO T1 lol this. where are the ultras??!!! Lurker-ling Defiler scourge kinda gas intensive? plus i dont think Ultras would work to well with 10 vessels flying around the map Four gas supports ultras. Basic part of TvZ. I thought Calm only had 3 gas? After he lost that 4o clock expo, he only had 2 gas. Yeah Calm was only on 4 gas for maybe one or two minutes, considering the drop that took out bottom right and that 6:00 wasn't up for long
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On November 28 2009 15:39 Disregard wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2009 15:38 Avidkeystamper wrote:On November 28 2009 15:38 Chen wrote:On November 28 2009 15:37 DoX.) wrote:On November 28 2009 15:36 JWD wrote: NO IDEA WHAT HAPPENED IN THIS GAME
BUT GO T1 lol this. where are the ultras??!!! Lurker-ling Defiler scourge kinda gas intensive? plus i dont think Ultras would work to well with 10 vessels flying around the map Four gas supports ultras. Basic part of TvZ. I thought Calm only had 3 gas? After he lost that 4o clock expo, he only had 2 gas. He had 6 o clock, but it is true he lost his lower right for a bit after being on four gas. I guess it's more how does he lose a base with his overwhelming advantage?
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Calm was too focused on controlling the middle. Fantasy slipped a dropship past Calm's defenses every time there was a fight in mid. It lost him 5 o'clock for entire second half of the game and disabled his main for a long while too.
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On November 28 2009 15:40 Day[9] wrote: no brilliance by fantasy at all
he just played the most standard possible TvZ known to man
and SOMEHOW with a HUGE HUGE HUGE advantage
calm loses? i mean that's one of the worst chokes i've ever seen in my life
half an army going this way, the other half hanging out doing nothing
awfulawfulwafulwauflwaful This calls for an impromptu emergency Day[9] daily now gogo.
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Calm just too aggressive with his early lurkers.
Maybe shoulda waited for swarm, fantasy couldnt have stopped it
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all my streams died for me when everyone was saying fantasy 2 base vs 5 bases gonna get overrun soon, and then its clam ggs anyone tell me wtf happened
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On November 28 2009 15:40 Avidkeystamper wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2009 15:39 Disregard wrote:On November 28 2009 15:38 Avidkeystamper wrote:On November 28 2009 15:38 Chen wrote:On November 28 2009 15:37 DoX.) wrote:On November 28 2009 15:36 JWD wrote: NO IDEA WHAT HAPPENED IN THIS GAME
BUT GO T1 lol this. where are the ultras??!!! Lurker-ling Defiler scourge kinda gas intensive? plus i dont think Ultras would work to well with 10 vessels flying around the map Four gas supports ultras. Basic part of TvZ. I thought Calm only had 3 gas? After he lost that 4o clock expo, he only had 2 gas. He had 6 o clock, but it is true he lost his lower right for a bit after being on four gas. I guess it's more how does he lose a base with his overwhelming advantage? especially because all he needed to keep 6:00 was one lurker and one swarm, considering how narrow that choke is
also has anyone else noticed that apparently STX Zergs have forgotten about Nydus Canals?
all this fast hive tech, no Nyduses!!
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On November 28 2009 15:38 iamho wrote: i usually never blame map imba, but those freaking chokes everywhere were just ridiculous. on no other map could a terran with one working base beat a zerg with 5 working bases, even if it was flash vs combat-ex offracing
Calm only had 4 gas running for like 30 secs before fantasy shut down his base, he never had 5 working bases, and he was running 3gas for most of the game and 2 gas for like 7 minutes after the drop shut down his 4th and stoppped mining at his main
Calm was basically playing it like he was playing Blue storm, except this map has chokes everywhere and Zerg doesnt have one place to take map control of and win. He choked, but it was more Fantasy's incredible play and Calm's failure to defend vs drops that lead to the loss
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He never had 4 gas consistently, if ever. One of his bases was min only and his expo at 6 was after fantasy killed off lower right.
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Calm didn't lose because of the map. He lost because he did stuff like mass suiciding overlords and generally throwing away units. Oh, and fantasy played awesome... that had something to do with it too.
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