• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 07:22
CEST 13:22
KST 20:22
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins EWC 202537Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 202510Power Rank - Esports World Cup 202580RSL Season 1 - Final Week9[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall15
Community News
LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments3[BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder9EWC 2025 - Replay Pack4Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced50BSL Team Wars - Bonyth, Dewalt, Hawk & Sziky teams10
StarCraft 2
General
Teller Digital Interview with Chris "ChanmanV" Chan The GOAT ranking of GOAT rankings Serral wins EWC 2025 Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 2025
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) TaeJa vs Creator Bo7 SC Evo Showmatch FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $10,000 live event
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 484 Magnetic Pull Mutation #239 Bad Weather Mutation # 483 Kill Bot Wars Mutation # 482 Wheel of Misfortune
Brood War
General
Nobody gona talk about this year crazy qualifiers? Which top zerg/toss will fail in qualifiers? Scmdraft 2 - 0.9.0 Preview BW General Discussion [BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder
Tourneys
[ASL20] Online Qualifiers Day 2 [ASL20] Online Qualifiers Day 1 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
[G] Mineral Boosting Muta micro map competition Does 1 second matter in StarCraft? Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Beyond All Reason Total Annihilation Server - TAForever [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok)
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
9/11 Anniversary Possible Al Qaeda Attack on 9/11 US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread Movie Discussion! Korean Music Discussion
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2025 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Gtx660 graphics card replacement Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale The Automated Ban List
Blogs
ASL S20 English Commentary…
namkraft
The Link Between Fitness and…
TrAiDoS
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Socialism Anyone?
GreenHorizons
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 637 users

[CSL+] Duke versus Georgia Tech - Page 5

Forum Index > Brood War Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 Next All
StarN
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States2587 Posts
November 09 2009 13:38 GMT
#81
I can vouch for them, none of the Duke guys cheated. (and I go to UNC :X)
Retired BW Noob
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
November 09 2009 15:37 GMT
#82
ALL of the Duke guys cheated!!!!

HAXXXXXXX
twitter.com/xerislight -- follow me~~
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8100 Posts
November 09 2009 18:25 GMT
#83
btw in my interview i mean to say your_killer is awesome, not attackzerg LOL
Free Palestine
YoUr_KiLLeR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States3420 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-09 18:31:00
November 09 2009 18:25 GMT
#84
On November 08 2009 01:37 hazelynut wrote:
- Who do you think will make the finals from the West Conference, and how do you think Georgia Tech would fare against them?
▲ I haven’t really paid much attention to other divisions but I would say UT. They were great last year and it looks like they’re just as good this year, plus AttackZerg is a great guy.

WTF OZZIE
what the fuck do you have to say for yourself now you protoss jackass can you retaliate in any way
LeoTheLion
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
China958 Posts
November 10 2009 03:49 GMT
#85
On November 09 2009 15:47 DarthThienAn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2009 15:16 SilverskY wrote:
On November 09 2009 14:56 LeoTheLion wrote:
uhh, isn't that kind of retarded? what if people viewed stream and cheated

That's what we were worried about too.


There's always a possibility of cheating. There are things we can't stop, and I think this was definitely a matchup worth live streaming for the CSL fans. Our hope is that people are above cheating and respect themselves, their opponents, and the league enough to not resort to something like that.. It'd be the same as a hacker imo.


Yes I know, but something like delaying the stream by 15 or 30 minutes reduces the possibility of cheating by a lot, while still allowing for a stream.

Some cheating may be unintentional, i.e. the team watching in the same room as the player playing, and the sound is on. Even if the player doesn't want to cheat, he'll still hear stuff, and it's hard to ignore "OMG OMG PROXY RAX" when you hear it.
Communism is not love. Communism is a hammer which we use to crush the enemy. -Chairman Mao
LeoTheLion
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
China958 Posts
November 10 2009 03:49 GMT
#86
On November 09 2009 22:38 StarN wrote:
I can vouch for them, none of the Duke guys cheated. (and I go to UNC :X)


I didn't say Duke or GT cheated. I'm just saying that it might be a better idea to have a delayed stream, or to even cast the reps.
Communism is not love. Communism is a hammer which we use to crush the enemy. -Chairman Mao
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
16987 Posts
November 10 2009 03:58 GMT
#87
On November 10 2009 12:49 LeoTheLion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2009 22:38 StarN wrote:
I can vouch for them, none of the Duke guys cheated. (and I go to UNC :X)


I didn't say Duke or GT cheated. I'm just saying that it might be a better idea to have a delayed stream, or to even cast the reps.


I pushed for this but Xeris kept on PMSing
Moderator
blabber
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4448 Posts
November 10 2009 05:01 GMT
#88
On November 10 2009 12:49 LeoTheLion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2009 15:47 DarthThienAn wrote:
On November 09 2009 15:16 SilverskY wrote:
On November 09 2009 14:56 LeoTheLion wrote:
uhh, isn't that kind of retarded? what if people viewed stream and cheated

That's what we were worried about too.


There's always a possibility of cheating. There are things we can't stop, and I think this was definitely a matchup worth live streaming for the CSL fans. Our hope is that people are above cheating and respect themselves, their opponents, and the league enough to not resort to something like that.. It'd be the same as a hacker imo.


Yes I know, but something like delaying the stream by 15 or 30 minutes reduces the possibility of cheating by a lot, while still allowing for a stream.

Some cheating may be unintentional, i.e. the team watching in the same room as the player playing, and the sound is on. Even if the player doesn't want to cheat, he'll still hear stuff, and it's hard to ignore "OMG OMG PROXY RAX" when you hear it.

a delay of like 2 or 3 minutes would probably be enough. The main problem here is actually figuring out how to delay the stream through livestream
blabberrrrr
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
November 10 2009 05:31 GMT
#89
On November 10 2009 12:58 Empyrean wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2009 12:49 LeoTheLion wrote:
On November 09 2009 22:38 StarN wrote:
I can vouch for them, none of the Duke guys cheated. (and I go to UNC :X)


I didn't say Duke or GT cheated. I'm just saying that it might be a better idea to have a delayed stream, or to even cast the reps.


I pushed for this but Xeris kept on PMSing


I pushed for people to remove the sticks from their anuses, and it worked.

In the future though, we'll coordinate these big matches so that we can get a delay. Although at the time, it'd be really annoying to 100 people on my stream to watch me sit in the channel for 20 mins waiting for a game to be played, etc.
twitter.com/xerislight -- follow me~~
LeoTheLion
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
China958 Posts
November 10 2009 05:35 GMT
#90
On November 10 2009 14:01 blabber wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2009 12:49 LeoTheLion wrote:
On November 09 2009 15:47 DarthThienAn wrote:
On November 09 2009 15:16 SilverskY wrote:
On November 09 2009 14:56 LeoTheLion wrote:
uhh, isn't that kind of retarded? what if people viewed stream and cheated

That's what we were worried about too.


There's always a possibility of cheating. There are things we can't stop, and I think this was definitely a matchup worth live streaming for the CSL fans. Our hope is that people are above cheating and respect themselves, their opponents, and the league enough to not resort to something like that.. It'd be the same as a hacker imo.


Yes I know, but something like delaying the stream by 15 or 30 minutes reduces the possibility of cheating by a lot, while still allowing for a stream.

Some cheating may be unintentional, i.e. the team watching in the same room as the player playing, and the sound is on. Even if the player doesn't want to cheat, he'll still hear stuff, and it's hard to ignore "OMG OMG PROXY RAX" when you hear it.

a delay of like 2 or 3 minutes would probably be enough. The main problem here is actually figuring out how to delay the stream through livestream


If player A takes a hidden expo, player B may never find that expo in a game. But if the commentator says "A is taking an expo at 7!!!" three minutes later B hears it and recalls to 7.

Best case scenario is if games are cast after they are completed.
Communism is not love. Communism is a hammer which we use to crush the enemy. -Chairman Mao
LeoTheLion
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
China958 Posts
November 10 2009 05:36 GMT
#91
On November 10 2009 14:31 Xeris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2009 12:58 Empyrean wrote:
On November 10 2009 12:49 LeoTheLion wrote:
On November 09 2009 22:38 StarN wrote:
I can vouch for them, none of the Duke guys cheated. (and I go to UNC :X)


I didn't say Duke or GT cheated. I'm just saying that it might be a better idea to have a delayed stream, or to even cast the reps.


I pushed for this but Xeris kept on PMSing


I pushed for people to remove the sticks from their anuses, and it worked.

In the future though, we'll coordinate these big matches so that we can get a delay. Although at the time, it'd be really annoying to 100 people on my stream to watch me sit in the channel for 20 mins waiting for a game to be played, etc.


They don't have to watch you for 20 min waiting in channel. Just say stream starts 30 minutes after the matches start. Until then just play a vod or something.
Communism is not love. Communism is a hammer which we use to crush the enemy. -Chairman Mao
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8100 Posts
November 10 2009 06:01 GMT
#92
Leo you need learn to trust people a little more man lol
Free Palestine
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
November 10 2009 06:04 GMT
#93
On November 10 2009 14:36 LeoTheLion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2009 14:31 Xeris wrote:
On November 10 2009 12:58 Empyrean wrote:
On November 10 2009 12:49 LeoTheLion wrote:
On November 09 2009 22:38 StarN wrote:
I can vouch for them, none of the Duke guys cheated. (and I go to UNC :X)


I didn't say Duke or GT cheated. I'm just saying that it might be a better idea to have a delayed stream, or to even cast the reps.


I pushed for this but Xeris kept on PMSing


I pushed for people to remove the sticks from their anuses, and it worked.

In the future though, we'll coordinate these big matches so that we can get a delay. Although at the time, it'd be really annoying to 100 people on my stream to watch me sit in the channel for 20 mins waiting for a game to be played, etc.


They don't have to watch you for 20 min waiting in channel. Just say stream starts 30 minutes after the matches start. Until then just play a vod or something.

there was trust between our teams. i know how much cooler it is to watch the games live than watch delayed replays.
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8100 Posts
November 10 2009 06:09 GMT
#94
On November 10 2009 15:04 OneOther wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2009 14:36 LeoTheLion wrote:
On November 10 2009 14:31 Xeris wrote:
On November 10 2009 12:58 Empyrean wrote:
On November 10 2009 12:49 LeoTheLion wrote:
On November 09 2009 22:38 StarN wrote:
I can vouch for them, none of the Duke guys cheated. (and I go to UNC :X)


I didn't say Duke or GT cheated. I'm just saying that it might be a better idea to have a delayed stream, or to even cast the reps.


I pushed for this but Xeris kept on PMSing


I pushed for people to remove the sticks from their anuses, and it worked.

In the future though, we'll coordinate these big matches so that we can get a delay. Although at the time, it'd be really annoying to 100 people on my stream to watch me sit in the channel for 20 mins waiting for a game to be played, etc.


They don't have to watch you for 20 min waiting in channel. Just say stream starts 30 minutes after the matches start. Until then just play a vod or something.

there was trust between our teams. i know how much cooler it is to watch the games live than watch delayed replays.


I kinda got the feeling you guys didn't trust us at all. What with cameron kicking our ob out of the match and then starting it immediately after and all....
Free Palestine
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
November 10 2009 06:10 GMT
#95
On November 10 2009 14:36 LeoTheLion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2009 14:31 Xeris wrote:
On November 10 2009 12:58 Empyrean wrote:
On November 10 2009 12:49 LeoTheLion wrote:
On November 09 2009 22:38 StarN wrote:
I can vouch for them, none of the Duke guys cheated. (and I go to UNC :X)


I didn't say Duke or GT cheated. I'm just saying that it might be a better idea to have a delayed stream, or to even cast the reps.


I pushed for this but Xeris kept on PMSing


I pushed for people to remove the sticks from their anuses, and it worked.

In the future though, we'll coordinate these big matches so that we can get a delay. Although at the time, it'd be really annoying to 100 people on my stream to watch me sit in the channel for 20 mins waiting for a game to be played, etc.


They don't have to watch you for 20 min waiting in channel. Just say stream starts 30 minutes after the matches start. Until then just play a vod or something.


The point is, that wasn't practical at that moment because there were already 100 people in the channel. Sure in the future it can be worked out so this is no problem, but for that time it wasn't very efficient.

Plus, people likely wouldn't cheat.
twitter.com/xerislight -- follow me~~
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
November 10 2009 06:13 GMT
#96
On November 10 2009 15:09 Ideas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2009 15:04 OneOther wrote:
On November 10 2009 14:36 LeoTheLion wrote:
On November 10 2009 14:31 Xeris wrote:
On November 10 2009 12:58 Empyrean wrote:
On November 10 2009 12:49 LeoTheLion wrote:
On November 09 2009 22:38 StarN wrote:
I can vouch for them, none of the Duke guys cheated. (and I go to UNC :X)


I didn't say Duke or GT cheated. I'm just saying that it might be a better idea to have a delayed stream, or to even cast the reps.


I pushed for this but Xeris kept on PMSing


I pushed for people to remove the sticks from their anuses, and it worked.

In the future though, we'll coordinate these big matches so that we can get a delay. Although at the time, it'd be really annoying to 100 people on my stream to watch me sit in the channel for 20 mins waiting for a game to be played, etc.


They don't have to watch you for 20 min waiting in channel. Just say stream starts 30 minutes after the matches start. Until then just play a vod or something.

there was trust between our teams. i know how much cooler it is to watch the games live than watch delayed replays.


I kinda got the feeling you guys didn't trust us at all. What with cameron kicking our ob out of the match and then starting it immediately after and all....

there was no reason to create more potential problems when you could have watched the stream, just like we were
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8100 Posts
November 10 2009 06:15 GMT
#97
On November 10 2009 15:13 OneOther wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2009 15:09 Ideas wrote:
On November 10 2009 15:04 OneOther wrote:
On November 10 2009 14:36 LeoTheLion wrote:
On November 10 2009 14:31 Xeris wrote:
On November 10 2009 12:58 Empyrean wrote:
On November 10 2009 12:49 LeoTheLion wrote:
On November 09 2009 22:38 StarN wrote:
I can vouch for them, none of the Duke guys cheated. (and I go to UNC :X)


I didn't say Duke or GT cheated. I'm just saying that it might be a better idea to have a delayed stream, or to even cast the reps.


I pushed for this but Xeris kept on PMSing


I pushed for people to remove the sticks from their anuses, and it worked.

In the future though, we'll coordinate these big matches so that we can get a delay. Although at the time, it'd be really annoying to 100 people on my stream to watch me sit in the channel for 20 mins waiting for a game to be played, etc.


They don't have to watch you for 20 min waiting in channel. Just say stream starts 30 minutes after the matches start. Until then just play a vod or something.

there was trust between our teams. i know how much cooler it is to watch the games live than watch delayed replays.


I kinda got the feeling you guys didn't trust us at all. What with cameron kicking our ob out of the match and then starting it immediately after and all....

there was no reason to create more potential problems when you could have watched the stream, just like we were


that's your opinion but it doesn't give you the right to kick our ob out without discussion
Free Palestine
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8100 Posts
November 10 2009 06:16 GMT
#98
+ the first game was completely lag free and there was no reason to believe that the 2nd game would of been any different.
Free Palestine
SilverskY
Profile Joined September 2008
Korea (South)3086 Posts
November 10 2009 06:18 GMT
#99
The main reason why that happened was because our first CSL. We wanted to obs Nony play but one of the CSL admins stated that there were no obs allowed in any of our games.
Graphics
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
November 10 2009 06:21 GMT
#100
On November 10 2009 15:15 Ideas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2009 15:13 OneOther wrote:
On November 10 2009 15:09 Ideas wrote:
On November 10 2009 15:04 OneOther wrote:
On November 10 2009 14:36 LeoTheLion wrote:
On November 10 2009 14:31 Xeris wrote:
On November 10 2009 12:58 Empyrean wrote:
On November 10 2009 12:49 LeoTheLion wrote:
On November 09 2009 22:38 StarN wrote:
I can vouch for them, none of the Duke guys cheated. (and I go to UNC :X)


I didn't say Duke or GT cheated. I'm just saying that it might be a better idea to have a delayed stream, or to even cast the reps.


I pushed for this but Xeris kept on PMSing


I pushed for people to remove the sticks from their anuses, and it worked.

In the future though, we'll coordinate these big matches so that we can get a delay. Although at the time, it'd be really annoying to 100 people on my stream to watch me sit in the channel for 20 mins waiting for a game to be played, etc.


They don't have to watch you for 20 min waiting in channel. Just say stream starts 30 minutes after the matches start. Until then just play a vod or something.

there was trust between our teams. i know how much cooler it is to watch the games live than watch delayed replays.


I kinda got the feeling you guys didn't trust us at all. What with cameron kicking our ob out of the match and then starting it immediately after and all....

there was no reason to create more potential problems when you could have watched the stream, just like we were


that's your opinion but it doesn't give you the right to kick our ob out without discussion

are you actually still bitching about that? the player didn't want obs and he asked about five times to leave politely (actually kicked him once). he came back and wouldn't even respond to the player. if there's a stream, which already creates possibilities of cheating, we are not going to an obs in when the player doesn't want it. and how does first game being lagless mean the second game will be the same? it's two different players lol. and there was no obs in the first game either besides duran.
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Sparkling Tuna Cup
10:00
Weekly #100
Creator vs KrystianerLIVE!
ByuN vs TBD
CranKy Ducklings222
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
EmSc Tv 42
ProTech37
Aristorii 8
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 7813
Horang2 1945
ggaemo 1464
Hyuk 1130
EffOrt 730
Hyun 654
BeSt 577
Larva 545
firebathero 474
Mong 218
[ Show more ]
TY 145
Leta 138
Zeus 126
ToSsGirL 75
Sharp 33
Noble 32
Sea.KH 22
Killer 20
zelot 14
Icarus 13
ivOry 6
Dota 2
XcaliburYe587
Counter-Strike
x6flipin641
byalli477
Super Smash Bros
Westballz31
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor341
Other Games
gofns14677
DeMusliM422
B2W.Neo351
Fuzer 201
Organizations
StarCraft 2
EmSc Tv 42
EmSc2Tv 42
StarCraft: Brood War
CasterMuse 24
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• davetesta45
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV874
League of Legends
• Jankos1219
Upcoming Events
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
2h 38m
Bonyth vs TBD
WardiTV European League
4h 38m
ByuN vs ShoWTimE
HeRoMaRinE vs MaxPax
Wardi Open
23h 38m
OSC
1d 12h
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
3 days
The PondCast
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
[ Show More ]
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
6 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

ASL Season 20: Qualifier #1
FEL Cracow 2025
CC Div. A S7

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Qualifiers
ASL Season 20: Qualifier #2
HCC Europe
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025

Upcoming

ASL Season 20
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
BSL Season 21
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
SEL Season 2 Championship
WardiTV Summer 2025
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
Thunderpick World Champ.
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
CAC 2025
Roobet Cup 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.