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Breach_hu
Hungary2431 Posts
On October 24 2009 19:00 samachking wrote: Can you please inform us with your strategic insight what better options Violet had to do that game and how could he have won? Mass Carriers FTW! useful skill toi have. even with upgs. | ||
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darktreb
United States3019 Posts
He has really blown quite a few games that he should not have lost, especially in TvZ (don't forget the GOM loss to July ... I mean come on) which I guess he needs to work on a bit. The thing that is tempting about Skyhigh is that he has demonstrated that he is capable of winning against anyone. Indeed, that's what is tempting about all of the CJ next generation players (Effort, Skyhigh, Movie). I think if Skyhigh figures it all out he could be nearly as good as Flash (and maybe even better in the individual leagues where a hard to analyze style is arguably better). But that's a gigantic IF and he's definitely at least one, likely two or more starleague seasons away from being a legitimate contender to win one. In fact, I would argue that at the moment, Movie is actually a better player. + Show Spoiler + Movie has just ballered his way into both leagues, and is arguably the third best Protoss player at the moment ... only Bisu, Stork, and Kal are in that discussion and only Stork is going to be in both leagues like Movie is. | ||
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pR0gR4m3R
Spain1446 Posts
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Xeln4g4
Italy1209 Posts
On October 24 2009 19:00 samachking wrote: Can you please inform us with your strategic insight what better options Violet had to do that game and how could he have won? Maybe just preventing Light to expand on base (3), 4 and 5? He had economic/units advantage to do this and keep expanding ... recalling in main was pointless, was only a good way to waste resources and allow Light to come back. Moreover Violet has a good melee skill with storming etc. (army vs army i mean) and should just have used this skill to prevent Light from exp (at 6 and 4 o'clock) If a T play so defensivly with 10000 turrets, he has no way to win a game with correct play by P, it's too much waste of time and mineral, P has only to avoid to waste 10 arbiter against them ... (something Violet didn't manage to do ...). | ||
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Musoeun
United States4324 Posts
On October 24 2009 18:56 Holgerius wrote: Learn from that game, Skyhigh, and make Science Vessels in the rematch. This would be assuming sKyHigh can even beat Shine. After all, I think Shine's better than ggaemo. | ||
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samachking
Bahrain4949 Posts
On October 24 2009 19:05 darktreb wrote: The thing that is tempting about Skyhigh is that he has demonstrated that he is capable of winning against anyone. Indeed, that's what is tempting about all of the CJ next generation players (Effort, Skyhigh, Movie). Unlike Effort and Movie who are actually good,Moive cant beat everyone PvP its not that good with his low apm, Skyhigh is not capable of beating anyone, especially dragons and any A/S-class Zerg and has never proved it and seems like he never will judging by his loss to ggaemo. Edit: TvT he is actually good The rest of his mus are basically all hype with no results to back them up | ||
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Xeln4g4
Italy1209 Posts
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Chen
United States6344 Posts
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samachking
Bahrain4949 Posts
On October 24 2009 19:09 IH4t3z3rg wrote: I trust Violet will beat next opponent (whoever will be the one) and rehabilitate himself qualifying for MSL I dont think hell beat Shine  , however he will beat Skyhigh, especially on Destination | ||
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Musoeun
United States4324 Posts
On October 24 2009 19:06 IH4t3z3rg wrote: Maybe just preventing Light to expand on base (3), 4 and 5? He had economic/units advantage to do this and keep expanding ... recalling in main was pointless, was only a good way to waste resources and allow Light to come back. If a T play so defensivly with 10000 turrets, he has no way to win a game with correct play by P, it's too much waste of time and mineral, P has only to avoid to waste 10 arbiter against them ... (something Violet didn't manage to do ...). Moreover Violet has a good melee skill with storming etc. (amry vs army i mean) and should just have used this skill to prevent Light from exp. The thing is... Violet did keep killing Light's bases. Especially the bottom right. But it was costing him too much every time. He won the battles too - but not emphatically. And his recalls never really touched Light's production capability. Violet's only clear advantage was with the early-game kookiness after he got his expo up safely, and Light kept him from capitalizing on that. | ||
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Chen
United States6344 Posts
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IntoTheWow
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JohnColtrane
Australia4813 Posts
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Xeln4g4
Italy1209 Posts
On October 24 2009 19:10 samachking wrote: I dont think hell beat Shine , however he will beat Skyhigh, especially on DestinationViolet PVZ isn't bad and is playing well also vs T. ... he just have to use his brain a little more. | ||
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Musoeun
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Chen
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IntoTheWow
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IntoTheWow
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