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Pholon
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Netherlands6142 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-20 18:51:45
September 18 2009 16:34 GMT
#1
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WE'RE GOING LIVE AT 4:00
STREAM LINK : http://www.teamliquid.net/video/userstream.php?user=Pholon




If needed you can contact me as "Pholon" on ICC during the event. The IRC channel will be #TL-Arena which we will also read. Please use this to chat as the stream chat will be turned off.


The stage is set, the lights are dimmed and we’re only hours away from the kickoff of TL Arena. It’s time we announce the players and put up the handicap and map polls.

The hero of the evening is:
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Shauni.

He will face off against eight of the bravest TLers. They are:
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Punkbroodling
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ZergZoul
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PocketX
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tyr
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JonsaBoy
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Nevuk
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MisterKatoss

To these players: be in channel op TL-Arena at the designated time/date. Remember, we at all times reserve the right to kick you out. Don’t show up on time, cause lag, don’t have AH on and out you are. We’re fortunate enough to have a bunch of backups so we can afford to be real dicks about this.

The first 8 reserves are:+ Show Spoiler +
TSL-Alur, D+, T, Denmark
Iamdisco, C, T, Netherlands
Peeano, D, Z, Netherlands
Rolster, D, Z, China
Fatalis, D, Z, USA
]-[ero, D, Z, USA
Strayline, D+, Z, USA
Swft, D, Z, Sweden

If someone drops out we’ll let the first one on the list in and work downwards etc.

Now, onto more interesting things! The maps TL will get to pick out are:

+ Show Spoiler [Map poll] +

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Poll: Map?
(Vote): Heartbreak Ridge
(Vote): Nostalgia
(Vote): Fantasy II
(Vote): Bloodbath
(Vote): Battle Royale


We've done a bit of work on the handicaps. We nerved the Probe sac from 12 to 8. No Attack ups and No Defend ups are combined into No Forge ups and we ditched W-mode. This leaves 2 open spots that we will fill with TL-submissions. If he draws a TL submission once we'll get the first one from the poll, then second etc...

We selected to following HCs you can vote for:

+ Show Spoiler [Handicap poll] +

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Poll: Handicap?
(Vote): No Corsairs
(Vote): Double Tech
(Vote): Allied AI
(Vote): Kill 1 Initial Peon
(Vote): Compulsive Merging

Explanation: + Show Spoiler +
No Corsairs = Contestant doesn't get to make any Corsairs.
Double Tech = 2 Tech buildings are required before contestant can make the unit (i.e. 2 Cy-cores before Goon)
Allied AI = Opponent gets an Allied cpu (ie. 1 v 1 + cpu)
Kill 1 Initial Peon = Contestant has to kill 1 of his initial peons before starting to mine
Compulsive Merging = Whenever contestant has 2 or more Templars he must merge them



These polls will close right as the event starts. I've editted the original topic to include the new handicaps. Let's do some voting!
Moderator@TLPholon // "I need a third hand to facepalm right now"
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
September 18 2009 16:42 GMT
#2
Fantasy II for the win + Kill 1 initial peon :D
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tirentu
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1257 Posts
September 18 2009 16:47 GMT
#3
Absolutely awesome.
drug_vict1m
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
844 Posts
September 18 2009 16:49 GMT
#4
blood bath + allied ai is insta win
One must feel chaos within, to give birth to a dancing star.
tyr
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France1686 Posts
September 18 2009 17:01 GMT
#5
Yay France !
Go MisterKatoss !
Surprisingly, only one US player in the initial 8.
"I'm always reminded of how manly Jaedong is every time I see him." -Bisu
Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-18 17:09:19
September 18 2009 17:04 GMT
#6
Bwaaaargh, you noted me as P even though i said Terran. Which is understandable because all my games on the TSL acc this season are with P. But the 53 games i played last season were with T, which is still my main race.
+ Show Spoiler +
It's because i used P to beat you, so you want to see my P get bashed? =)
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7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
September 18 2009 17:05 GMT
#7
oh come on people, dont vote for kill 1 inital peon.
that will just make people go for boring timing attacks/rushes
beep boop
Musoeun
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States4324 Posts
September 18 2009 17:09 GMT
#8
I love double tech. Great idea.

Fantasy II is definitely go as well. Although Blood Bath would be funny...
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FaCE_1
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada6184 Posts
September 18 2009 17:10 GMT
#9
Nostalgia
Merging stuff
n_n
barth
Profile Joined March 2008
Ireland1272 Posts
September 18 2009 17:32 GMT
#10
I hope Kill 1 initial peon + Bloodbath wont happen...
"Somebody you are talking to disappears mid sentence, and the universe shoots you because you talked to someone that wasn`t there." - MasterOfChaos
Pholon
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Netherlands6142 Posts
September 18 2009 17:51 GMT
#11
On September 19 2009 02:04 Alur wrote:
Bwaaaargh, you noted me as P even though i said Terran. Which is understandable because all my games on the TSL acc this season are with P. But the 53 games i played last season were with T, which is still my main race.
+ Show Spoiler +
It's because i used P to beat you, so you want to see my P get bashed? =)


My bad, fixed
Moderator@TLPholon // "I need a third hand to facepalm right now"
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
September 18 2009 17:58 GMT
#12
AI!

When was the last time you watched a competitive BW event involving a computer player?
✌
sixghost
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States2096 Posts
September 18 2009 18:01 GMT
#13
On September 19 2009 02:58 JWD wrote:
AI!

When was the last time you watched a competitive BW event involving a computer player?

I think Idra was supposed to play a 2v2 with a computer ally vs [Light] in yankee league a while ago. I don't think the match ever happened though.
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Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8174 Posts
September 18 2009 18:04 GMT
#14
non ZvZ battle royal gogogogogo
Free Palestine
JonsaBoy
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Denmark457 Posts
September 18 2009 18:21 GMT
#15
You said only hours away. Am I missing something? Wasn't it tomorrow night? Just making sure that I'm there on time
TLMS
LordWeird
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3411 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-18 18:44:57
September 18 2009 18:43 GMT
#16
edit: Apparently it's Sunday at 3:00pm EST?

Sucks, I don't get off of work until then. Gotta rush home.
Chains none
JonsaBoy
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Denmark457 Posts
September 18 2009 18:45 GMT
#17
Calendar said tomorrow, so i guess its just me getting confused.
TLMS
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
September 18 2009 18:46 GMT
#18
This is going to be really fun
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n.DieJokes
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3443 Posts
September 18 2009 18:51 GMT
#19
sweet, now I have two days to think up some cheese
MyLove + Your Love= Supa Love
Bebop Berserker
Profile Joined April 2009
United States246 Posts
September 18 2009 19:04 GMT
#20
These handicaps are so random.... whoever thought these handicaps needs to reconsider. Double tech would be too good t v p and corsair or compulsive would be ok in z(especially the compulsive) but none of these really draw upon the player to do something escpecially hard. I feel it just limits him. You should instead give the other player a boost. I like the idea and will watch. I hope it turns out not completely imbalanced
Whatever happens, happens.
JonsaBoy
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Denmark457 Posts
September 18 2009 19:15 GMT
#21
Haha, i just realized its not today or tomorrow, its the day after tomorrow. Maybe i should invest in a calendar.
TLMS
Neivler
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Norway911 Posts
September 18 2009 19:15 GMT
#22
The best handicap would be no DT. Then the P cant win at all XD
I pwn noobs
3 Lions
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3705 Posts
September 18 2009 19:21 GMT
#23
I'll try my best to rush home by 3:00
I'll be here 3:30 at the latest.
Trozz
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada3456 Posts
September 19 2009 00:08 GMT
#24
Hell ya, Fantasy!
There's no way I'm missing this.
I'll still want to play. ;]
A build is not a guess, an estimation or a hunch, a feeling, or a foolish intuition. A build is a dependable, unwavering, unarguably accurate, portrayer of your ambition.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
September 19 2009 01:44 GMT
#25
I'm a bit confused about double tech. Does it only apply to non-production tech buildings, or does it apply to production buildings as well? What about tech buildings that don't open up units, but meet prereqs for others (e.g. Citadel of Adun)?
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deL
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Australia5540 Posts
September 19 2009 01:50 GMT
#26
Who would vote kill 1 peon wtf
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nicoaldo
Profile Joined March 2009
Argentina939 Posts
September 19 2009 01:55 GMT
#27
i guess this is gonna be streamed via livestream.com only? cause its not working for me T_T hope you can record VODs...
Chau
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada408 Posts
September 19 2009 02:49 GMT
#28
Battle Royale and CPU!

Definitely gonna be here on Sunday.
frogmelter
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States971 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-19 03:33:12
September 19 2009 03:32 GMT
#29
Kill 1 peon = instant gg

How can anyone fend off a 4 pool then?

You have to keep in mind cheeses
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Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
September 19 2009 03:56 GMT
#30
Sexy banner~ can't wait! Nice work Pholon (and LeperKahn)
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Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
September 19 2009 06:29 GMT
#31
Yep, I should definitely be able to participate in this. Will set an alarm and everything.
pangshai
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Chinatown5333 Posts
September 19 2009 06:29 GMT
#32
i thought allied AI was that the pro had to ally opponent for like maybe 10s every 2 or 3 minutes so he's forced to A click to attack, and he won't be able to make any a move commands. sounds like an interesting handicap to me. although it may be hard to implement.
#1 midas fan
Pholon
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Netherlands6142 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-19 08:44:40
September 19 2009 08:11 GMT
#33
On September 19 2009 09:08 Trozz wrote:
Hell ya, Fantasy!
There's no way I'm missing this.
I'll still want to play. ;]


You're second after Swft. Just make sure you're there and have faith in TL's ability to not show up

On September 19 2009 10:44 TheYango wrote:
I'm a bit confused about double tech. Does it only apply to non-production tech buildings, or does it apply to production buildings as well? What about tech buildings that don't open up units, but meet prereqs for others (e.g. Citadel of Adun)?


Cycore for Goon
Archives for Templars
Supbay for Reaver
Obstory for Obs
FleetB for Carrier
Arbtrib for Arb

Units can only spawn after 2nd is built.

On September 19 2009 10:55 nicoaldo wrote:
i guess this is gonna be streamed via livestream.com only? cause its not working for me T_T hope you can record VODs...


I'm afraid so as it's the only means for us to broadcast this. We'll try to get you guys VODs obviously.

On September 19 2009 15:29 pangshai wrote:
i thought allied AI was that the pro had to ally opponent for like maybe 10s every 2 or 3 minutes so he's forced to A click to attack, and he won't be able to make any a move commands. sounds like an interesting handicap to me. although it may be hard to implement.


Thank god I included an explanation ey. And lol "Ally your opponent" is so awesome and so harsh xD

Moderator@TLPholon // "I need a third hand to facepalm right now"
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-20 01:04:58
September 20 2009 00:36 GMT
#34
bump ^_^ this will be great!
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Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
September 20 2009 02:55 GMT
#35
On September 19 2009 17:11 Pholon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2009 15:29 pangshai wrote:
i thought allied AI was that the pro had to ally opponent for like maybe 10s every 2 or 3 minutes so he's forced to A click to attack, and he won't be able to make any a move commands. sounds like an interesting handicap to me. although it may be hard to implement.


Thank god I included an explanation ey. And lol "Ally your opponent" is so awesome and so harsh xD


Yeah that's what I thought Allied AI meant, except that he had to completely ally the TLer the whole game and always use manual attack.
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
September 20 2009 06:52 GMT
#36
I totally skipped sleeping on top of a mountain to make sure I would be available for this. I'm still expecting to get stomped, though. Hope if I do get picked, it's not on fantasy II because I've never seen that map before in my life.
Musoeun
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States4324 Posts
September 20 2009 10:30 GMT
#37
I still think the probe sac is the worst possible one but whatever...
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Pholon
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Netherlands6142 Posts
September 20 2009 18:59 GMT
#38
BUMP
Moderator@TLPholon // "I need a third hand to facepalm right now"
nicoaldo
Profile Joined March 2009
Argentina939 Posts
September 20 2009 19:01 GMT
#39
Record VODs please!
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
September 20 2009 19:01 GMT
#40
Fucking awesome. I came home sick from work just in time to watch.
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
September 20 2009 19:06 GMT
#41
You'll be happy to know that I've gotten multiple people to torrent FF7 for PC with me on the stream.

I LOVE THIS FUCKING MUSIC
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
pripple
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Finland1714 Posts
September 20 2009 19:08 GMT
#42
On September 21 2009 04:06 Grobyc wrote:
You'll be happy to know that I've gotten multiple people to torrent FF7 for PC with me on the stream.

I LOVE THIS FUCKING MUSIC

oh my god, i just joined the stream and heard the music and remembered what an excellent game FF7 was and if i just could get my hands on that... and then you show up with the link! now i know where im gonna put my free time during the next few weeks before proSC continues!
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RoieTRS
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States2569 Posts
September 20 2009 19:14 GMT
#43
zealot + scout only
konadora, in Racenilatr's blog: "you need to stop thinking about starcraft or anything computer-related for that matter. It's becoming a bad addiction imo"
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
September 20 2009 19:16 GMT
#44
Allied Ai for rushing!!!
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
September 20 2009 19:16 GMT
#45
Handicap: Shauni can only build more nexus' to boost his supply count other than the first pylon.
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
September 20 2009 19:17 GMT
#46
HANDICAP!!! Shauni can only use manlots to attack!!!
3 Lions
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3705 Posts
September 20 2009 19:19 GMT
#47
yo Pholon if you need me I'm here
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
September 20 2009 19:57 GMT
#48
It would be funny if it always randomed no storms ;]
Tropics
Profile Joined August 2007
United Kingdom1132 Posts
September 20 2009 20:03 GMT
#49
lol @ wildly different mic volumes

and the guy with the ridiculously quiet mic has speakers
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
September 20 2009 20:09 GMT
#50
I forgot zealot leg speed. /tears.
sashkata
Profile Joined September 2008
Bulgaria3241 Posts
September 20 2009 20:56 GMT
#51
On September 21 2009 05:03 Tropics wrote:
lol @ wildly different mic volumes

srsly. Guys, try to match pls. Otherwise I will listen only to Pholon (the louder guy).
SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21550 Posts
September 20 2009 21:18 GMT
#52
On September 21 2009 04:06 Grobyc wrote:
You'll be happy to know that I've gotten multiple people to torrent FF7 for PC with me on the stream.

I LOVE THIS FUCKING MUSIC

Doesn't the PC version use shitty midi music? Get the PSX version w/ePSXe. :p
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Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
September 20 2009 22:01 GMT
#53
On September 21 2009 06:18 SonuvBob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2009 04:06 Grobyc wrote:
You'll be happy to know that I've gotten multiple people to torrent FF7 for PC with me on the stream.

I LOVE THIS FUCKING MUSIC

Doesn't the PC version use shitty midi music? Get the PSX version w/ePSXe. :p

o.o

Thanks for the tip :3
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
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