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[PGR Trans] Tips for Zerg beginners

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AloneInDaBunker
Profile Joined November 2008
Korea (South)123 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-24 19:25:18
December 24 2008 16:46 GMT
#1
I decided to start with the easiest and simplest to translate so I translated a post containing tips for zerg beginners. This author claimed to be a noob but he said he was noob compared to PGR members. I saw some comments that appreciated this post on PGR so I wish this translation helps some of you.
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Name The Greatest Hits

Subject [Z vs T] Tips for Zerg Noobs


1. Hatchery
Fate of Zerg lies on “lava”.
The fact that Zerg has more flexibility compared to other races is due to its 3 ‘fixed’ lavas. 10 Hatcheries produce 60 zerglings at a time, but given that Zerg usually has at most 3 hatcheries in early stage vs Terran, even one “forgotten lava” is very self-destructive. Especially after mid stage of game, the zerg ends up with excessive unused resources even with very few missed lavas. So it is essential to produce “constantly” using all lavas. In addition, placing hatchery in twin position will increase mining efficiency. Hatcheries for army production is advised to be placed close together. This allows Ctrl+lava and prevents unused lava frequently seen in remote hatcheries around the map.

2. About # of drones
One thing good about Zerg compared to Protoss and Terran is that “A lot at once” is possible. The reason Terran and Protoss have to produce scvs and probes endlessly is not to mine resources better, but to quickly utilize resources from new expo. However, Zerg seldom overproduces its workers. All Zerg needs to do is produce drones from three hatches once and fill the new expo. Since drones build buildings, you will often find your expo filled with more drones and your main base lacking them. Try to produce limited number of drones when producing your army to prevent this.

3. Placement of Overlords
One thing that makes Zerg better than Terran is the fact that Overlords can fly around (although it’s turtle speed). In case of Python, as the version upgraded to 1.03, there are now walls. Overlord placed over it will stress Terran. Important thing is to send one ov over the wall and one near mineral. After early stage, place them where it is easy for your opponent to drop attack. Placing an ov near mineral becomes handy especially when you need your drones to click on remote mineral and attack against your opponent attempting cheese or bunker.

4. Always try to build minimum sunkens
When your opponent is one rax double, you can easily defend with zerglings and drones. Two sunkens equal one hatchery equals 6 drones. Two sunkens not built to produce drones instead will make it very hard to lose economic battle against Terran. The bravery in front of marines ~! This will brighten the future of Zerg.

5. The focus of zergling+lurker control is zergling, not lurkers.
Charging 1a2a lurker zergling accomplishes nothing but making marines retreat a small distance. It is better to divide zergling and lurkers to make lurkers run in front while zerglings surround marines from behind and move attack. This deals more damage. Remember the main part of July’s ling+lurk control was zergling, not lurkers.

6. Lurker control Tip
Burrowing lurker group altogether as if sieging a group of tanks will make you lose. When charging with lurker group, it is important to shift click on each lurker to burrow those in appropriate position. If you got a slow hand, ctrl+lurker will select lurkers in screen. Pressing U after that will make lurkers that are not on screen to run forward. Press U again on these running lurkers. This will prevent lurkers to stand still when intense battle takes place. Place two lurkers in expos in starting points. I advise against stop lurkers for beginners since you will have to pay too much attention to it.

7. Killing opponent's army with mutal is not an easy thing
People are used to seeing Jaedong’s mutal control but it is better for beginners to just scout around enemy base and pick off isolated units. It is already a pressure for terran just to see mutals flying around their base.

8. Fast Hive build is a build with many weaknesses.
Hive tech can be achieved quickly to produce defiler as early as on 9 minute into the game. Even 8 minute is possible if expo is given up. However, this is highly vulnerable to tanks coming out from two facts rushing with a vessel. Existence of defiler means very little without supporting army. Therefore, I suggest grasping your opponent’s intention before going fast Hive build. First build your army and give Terran an impression that you will attack their base if they dare to progress their army.

Boxer is the truth.
AloneInDaBunker
Profile Joined November 2008
Korea (South)123 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-24 17:04:50
December 24 2008 16:54 GMT
#2
Will do more translation of longer and more complex ones later.
Boxer is the truth.
EntertainMe
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
864 Posts
December 24 2008 16:56 GMT
#3
Good Stuff, keep it up!

P.S. I think you should translate the replies as well. When they debate, they get into details wayyyy more than the topic itself sometimes, posting their replays and all. Great job nevertheless!!
Agavond
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
448 Posts
December 24 2008 17:00 GMT
#4
Aww. So you decided not to do my request? jk. Thanks for translating though because I'm beginning to learn how to play zerg.
O.oSins Since Op Cal
AloneInDaBunker
Profile Joined November 2008
Korea (South)123 Posts
December 24 2008 17:06 GMT
#5
I got a pm from somebody to do zerg although I doubt this beginner tip will satisfy him. I'll eventually translate others too, including yours. BTW wut race did u want?
Boxer is the truth.
Agavond
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
448 Posts
December 24 2008 17:11 GMT
#6
OMFG I LOVE YOU SOO MUCH!!! Because I really wanted to get that flash build to a perfect science as well as the using more dropships against toss.
O.oSins Since Op Cal
village_idiot
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
2436 Posts
December 24 2008 17:17 GMT
#7
Argh, I need advanced chogu tips...
drone
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
70 Posts
December 24 2008 17:25 GMT
#8
On December 25 2008 01:46 AloneInDaBunker wrote:
The bravery in front of marines ~! This will brighten the future of Zerg.

haha, cute~

thanks!
마재윤
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
December 24 2008 17:31 GMT
#9
I love all these translations, this is great
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
GearitUP
Profile Joined November 2008
United States337 Posts
December 24 2008 17:41 GMT
#10
Heh cool, I been a protoss user forever and starting to learn zerg now, this helps a bit thx for the post.
Own<Owned<Ownt<Pwn<Pwned<PwnT< YOU NEWB!
Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
December 24 2008 17:51 GMT
#11
Awesome thanks alot
ilovezil
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States4143 Posts
December 24 2008 17:51 GMT
#12
Protoss translations would be great! This bit opened up a new perspective for me, so it was really great, thanks!
PiSan
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States160 Posts
December 24 2008 18:27 GMT
#13
Very nice translation. Thanks for this!
gg_hertzz
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
2152 Posts
December 24 2008 18:51 GMT
#14
i'm not a zerg user but that guide was ridiculousy helpful. i feel like i can go kick some A korean ass on iccup.


just feel like it. not saying i'll be able to. in fact i'm not even going to try.
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
December 24 2008 19:00 GMT
#15
awesome
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
Flopgun
Profile Joined August 2005
Germany274 Posts
December 24 2008 19:15 GMT
#16
These are the noob tips? The gosu tips must be awesome, pls translate more
Jaedong fighting
grobo
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Japan6199 Posts
December 24 2008 19:46 GMT
#17
Great job, appreciated!
We make signature, then defense it.
Salv
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada3083 Posts
December 24 2008 19:54 GMT
#18
This is really nice; big thanks for translating. We all appreciate it!

Shouldn't this be in strat. though?
lxginverse
Profile Joined May 2008
Monaco1506 Posts
December 24 2008 20:04 GMT
#19
thanks a lot ^^
fromis_9 enjoyer
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
December 24 2008 20:06 GMT
#20
The Korean level of discourse of SC strategy seems so much higher than the foreign one, I hope to see more awesome translations in the future. ;D
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