Lol it doesn't matter that it's easy to scout, the fact that your about to play a Bo5 and you've already decided on the strategy it defeats the point of a game. Never heard about this thing of don't think of a strategy and stick to it no matter what ?

Chill

Calgary26004 Posts

July 05 2006 23:16 GMT

#68

On July 06 2006 07:58 Reason wrote:
Lol it doesn't matter that it's easy to scout, the fact that your about to play a Bo5 and you've already decided on the strategy it defeats the point of a game. Never heard about this thing of don't think of a strategy and stick to it no matter what ?

According to your "sprinkle in Goliath" theory, it shouldn't matter, because if you don't open Mech you should be able to switch to it. I'm going to be playing normally anyways, I'm not going to do anything that takes advantage of Mech.

IdrA

United States11541 Posts

July 05 2006 23:19 GMT

#69

even if you open mech and your opponent knows your going to it doesnt really matter because he doesnt have to change from standard zvt play to counter you until well after he would have scouted it anyway.

another weakness in mech.

Reason

United Kingdom2770 Posts

July 05 2006 23:23 GMT

#70

well don't open mech if you don't believe it works.

IdrA

United States11541 Posts

July 05 2006 23:29 GMT

#71

stop arguing in favor of it and then just telling people to not do it when they tell you why you're wrong. either argue in favor of it or dont. stop this half assed annoying shit.

Reason

United Kingdom2770 Posts

July 05 2006 23:34 GMT

#72

HungZerg im really trying to be diplomatic and your just pissing me off with every post you send.. I don't mind if you totally disagree with me and give me reasons why, i'll just give you reasons why I disagree with you, but we already tried that and you just got pissed off at me. So now im not trying to argue with you, but give you other options since you think im talking shit. I really am trying dude, I know we got off on the wrong foot but stop biting my heels. I think you can open mech and win, you don't. So try a transition to mech, that's all im saying. And since I've given a variety of strats, all in favour of mech (not that I don't understand it's drawbacks), I don't see how I have ever argued not in favour of it

I'm just saying it's cool, and can work, I know MnM probably works better 99% of the time.

Patriot.dlk

Sweden5462 Posts

July 05 2006 23:40 GMT

#73

Goliath deal half damage, not 3/4

Reason

United Kingdom2770 Posts

July 05 2006 23:41 GMT

#74

On July 06 2006 08:16 Chill wrote:
I'm going to be playing normally anyways, I'm not going to do anything that takes advantage of Mech.

ach but now your just handicapping yourself no?? maybe it really doesn't matter if you both know what the strats are,

On July 06 2006 08:19 HungZerg wrote:
even if you open mech and your opponent knows your going to it doesnt really matter because he doesnt have to change from standard zvt play to counter you until well after he would have scouted it anyway.

another weakness in mech.

I always just viewed that as a dead giveaway but with high level gaming I suppose it would be pretty difficult to keep it a secret...

Chill if you really are interested in playing, I was thinking of us playing QUITE few games, not just 5, say maybe a Bo3/Bo5 on every map that we decide is worth playing ( over a period of time of course ) and then we make a post and come to some sort of final conclusion (based on whatever variable we feel we have eliminated, say on ppl of our skill level, not sure how it's gonna work I don't know if you'd pwn me or not

maybe we can try you terran and me zerg sometimes fuknose) and put in the games we think show the pro's and con's the best, or ones that are just pure sex

either way give me your thoughts

On July 06 2006 08:53 Myrmidon wrote:
Well, I read all the posts and was legitimately confused as to when you were talking about heavy mech or just standard + 1-2 fac gol.

sorry TT I'll try to make more sense in future

Myrmidon

United States9452 Posts

July 05 2006 23:53 GMT

#75

Well, I read all the posts and was legitimately confused as to when you were talking about heavy mech or just standard + 1-2 fac gol. As for the latter, I think people are exaggerating a little, including me, on how much worse it'd be than standard. The difference isn't that great at all, but I think if you're going to be doing something "different" (as in less solid) as a fun thing, you should do something more extreme (like all metal, or biomech TvP) that has more significant advantages that you can exploit to make up for the weaknesses. But play the game however you want.

IdrA

United States11541 Posts

July 06 2006 00:13 GMT

#76

On July 06 2006 08:34 Reason wrote:
HungZerg im really trying to be diplomatic and your just pissing me off with every post you send.. I don't mind if you totally disagree with me and give me reasons why, i'll just give you reasons why I disagree with you, but we already tried that and you just got pissed off at me. So now im not trying to argue with you, but give you other options since you think im talking shit. I really am trying dude, I know we got off on the wrong foot but stop biting my heels. I think you can open mech and win, you don't. So try a transition to mech, that's all im saying. And since I've given a variety of strats, all in favour of mech (not that I don't understand it's drawbacks), I don't see how I have ever argued not in favour of it

I'm just saying it's cool, and can work, I know MnM probably works better 99% of the time.

whenever someone points out why your arguments are wrong you just say "ok dont use it then", i didnt say you argued against it you just drop it and refuse to support it anymore yet you still say it is viable. which is just retarded.

Chill

Calgary26004 Posts

July 06 2006 01:18 GMT

#77

As I said before I'll play Z v Mech all day if you want. I can probably play tonight. PM me. If you can't get a hold of me when you want to play, check east for GiTM.Chill or PGT for ShowYouAll... (3 periods included in name).

dronebabo

10866 Posts

July 06 2006 01:49 GMT

#78

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Reason

United Kingdom2770 Posts

July 06 2006 02:00 GMT

#79

What have I said that's "wrong" dronebabo

Hung didn't you read anything I just said... I'm totally putting the ball in your court here and your still calling me retarded. I refused to support my ideas FURTHER because

1. You were calling me retarded for it
2. I was being told to stop

So I did stop, and now I'm a retard because of that.

Edit: Chill I can't play tonight I need sleep for work and we in different time zones, I'll come online and whisper you at some point and we can arrange..