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Hashe
Profile Joined April 2004
77 Posts
October 04 2004 18:20 GMT
#1
WTF should i do if I go goli+tanks and he goes tank+wraith ?everytime i loose because he catches my dropships...should i put up a third expo??? what BU should i make ?
Shut up Bitch!
GroT
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Belgium3003 Posts
October 04 2004 18:21 GMT
#2
dont fill up your dropships and fly around if he has wraiths
DANCE ALL DAY
ToKoreaWithLove
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Norway10161 Posts
October 04 2004 18:25 GMT
#3
haha, nice grot

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SpuniasauR
Profile Joined September 2003
Australia1500 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-10-04 19:25:57
October 04 2004 19:25 GMT
#4
spam turrets, make wall, expo everywhere behind the wall.

---> then bcs
A firebat to your Zergling.
Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
October 04 2004 20:02 GMT
#5
If he goes wraith, he wants to gain control over the map, for example over cliffs, because he can kill dropships with his wraiths, and kill anything with his wraiths that gets near his tanks. By doing that, he can destroy your eco, and overmacro you.

What you have to do is expo as much as you can and protecting them very well (put a few goliaths on your cliff for example). You then have a better eco than him and can kill him...
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
BroOd
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Austin10833 Posts
October 04 2004 21:22 GMT
#6
A quick scanner and well places scouts can be livesavers vs wraiths. When expanding, feel free to drop an SCV on an overlooking cliff and build a turret or two. This can buy you enough time to get your own dropship to your cliff in the event that he does drop on it. One very important thing is turret placement. Don't put three turrets around your command center and none around your base, or you might find yourself completely fucked by a quick 2 tank / 3 wraith rush drop. If you do decide to drop his quickly, scan ahead of yourself, so you don't run into his wraiths. Going wraiths can often leave a terran open to early turret/tank containment, so as was said, be very liberal with those turrets.
ModeratorSIRL and JLIG.
SpiriT-DemoN-
Profile Joined January 2003
United States684 Posts
October 05 2004 02:12 GMT
#7
i recommend getting the Gol range upgrade and expanding..
An eye for an eye only makes the whole world blind - Gandhi
STIMEY d okgm fish
Profile Joined August 2003
Canada6140 Posts
October 05 2004 02:30 GMT
#8
i think thats why ppl float a rax or scout scv before putting dropship in harm's way, maybe u could even cancel dropship if u get a lucky spot
NoSteratu
Profile Joined March 2003
Turkey770 Posts
October 05 2004 04:05 GMT
#9
get one more gaz expo with turret and make more wraiths..
Fear..Fear attracts the Fearful...the Strong...the Weak..the Innocent...Fear..is my Ally
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17038 Posts
October 05 2004 04:53 GMT
#10
gogo valkyries haha
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BullocH
Profile Joined December 2003
Canada51 Posts
October 05 2004 04:56 GMT
#11
so stop doing gol tank, just wraith tank better than him
Capulet
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Canada686 Posts
October 05 2004 05:07 GMT
#12
You shouldn't just guess what to make. Try to keep a constant view of what your enemy is going for and try to counter it.
"I'm just killing the spiders to save the butterflies... Wanting to save both is a contradiction. What would you rather do? Keep deliberating? The butterfly will be eaten in the meantime."
oPtioNaLk
Profile Joined September 2004
Korea (South)564 Posts
October 05 2004 11:17 GMT
#13
On October 05 2004 03:20 Hashe wrote:
WTF should i do if I go goli+tanks and he goes tank+wraith ?everytime i loose because he catches my dropships...should i put up a third expo??? what BU should i make ?


Don't lose your dships. If he's catching your dships all the time then it means either you are going in a straightline to your destination or you are going on an obvious path. Just take the long route if you need to, it's better than risking your precious cargo.
Ack1027
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States7873 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-10-05 11:25:10
October 05 2004 11:24 GMT
#14
In mirror matchups if you're having trouble beating him with alternate strats, always become faster and more efficient than your opponent with the strat he is using.

In this situation, Wraith + Valk[s] > Wraiths
Wraith + D-Matrix > Wraiths
Casper...
Profile Joined October 2002
Liberia4948 Posts
October 05 2004 11:56 GMT
#15
stop playing hackers k hf
JAM THE FUCKER!
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
October 05 2004 12:01 GMT
#16
On October 05 2004 13:53 This-is-not-a-smurf wrote:
gogo valkyries haha

This is actually good advice o.O I seem to recall wraith tank being countered by gol tank or something.. I dont play TvT at all though so I might be off--
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baal
Profile Joined March 2003
10541 Posts
October 05 2004 12:07 GMT
#17
easy, just choose a weak spot and drop your foce, if he is protecting his natural a lot go for the main, just get a big army and SCVs (scvs are important), drop and scan, he cant overpower u cuz wraith sucks for that so he will try to make you spend your scan but thats why you build some turrets, and keep droping him, just make a diversion, if you are going for main put a bait for the wraiths in other place, like a floting estructure in his expo, he will go and kill it and he wont be able to catchyour drop in his main.
Im back, in pog form!
SpiriT-DemoN-
Profile Joined January 2003
United States684 Posts
October 05 2004 14:06 GMT
#18
watch some ArtOfHan replays.. his strat against a terran with wraith is bringing in a slow switch to wraith himself.. he usually builds more ports then the other guy and just out masses him. its a good style to play
An eye for an eye only makes the whole world blind - Gandhi
ejai63
Profile Joined November 2002
United States2101 Posts
October 05 2004 18:16 GMT
#19
play oov style and just have one more starport than he does
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baal
Profile Joined March 2003
10541 Posts
October 05 2004 18:24 GMT
#20
On October 05 2004 20:24 Abyss_Bahamut wrote:
In mirror matchups if you're having trouble beating him with alternate strats, always become faster and more efficient than your opponent with the strat he is using.

In this situation, Wraith + Valk[s] > Wraiths
Wraith + D-Matrix > Wraiths


are you on drugs or something? Wraith + D-Matrix? lol wtf.


And the counter to 2fact tank is D-matrix gols? lmao
Im back, in pog form!
Pob
Profile Joined February 2004
880 Posts
October 05 2004 21:24 GMT
#21
or with the amount of gas that science costs get 2 wraiths instead?
NeverTheEndlessWiz
Profile Joined November 2003
Singapore827 Posts
October 05 2004 23:08 GMT
#22
vs a wraither either play wraiths urself and outmicro
OR
play turret gol grounding (with tanks at correct places of coz)
Retired Brood War player / WCG SG Top 8 for 2002, 2003, 2004, retired, then made minor comeback to Top 8 at 2008. 2009 = bleh xD
Chris307
Profile Joined June 2004
3095 Posts
October 05 2004 23:45 GMT
#23
i lkie the idea of wraiths tvt iloveoov uses them well and its always amaizng to tee teh crazy wraith cloud
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thelucas
Profile Joined October 2004
Slovakia285 Posts
October 15 2004 00:15 GMT
#24
Try to go with tanks+siege before him and control the most part of a map. Then expo + valkyries, download nada's xellos, iloveoov's sync' replay packs, they will ansver u. Use bw chart.
this is possibility to show what is perfection
JustFun
Profile Joined September 2004
Estonia77 Posts
October 15 2004 02:28 GMT
#25
wraith tank owns
I love sexy zergs
dork_of_death!!
Profile Joined September 2004
United States374 Posts
October 15 2004 03:52 GMT
#26
turrets are the way

terran always has extra minerals so turret the hell out of everything

I prefer building a ring of turrets around my opponent's base and tank containing the front
GG!!!!!!
mcmascote
Profile Joined September 2004
Brazil1575 Posts
October 15 2004 04:31 GMT
#27
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sundance
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
Slovakia3201 Posts
October 15 2004 04:34 GMT
#28
I always vs this strat go tanks and gols.Then igo mass expand and i turret whole map and outmacro him.Sometimes i try to kill him really fast or go BC with valks. and always have strong ground army.At first i was loseing vs this strat but now i totall own wraith+tank users ^^.
TvT is my best match up.And i really like wraith+tank too but i dont like mirroring i like countering.
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Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17038 Posts
October 15 2004 05:14 GMT
#29
go valks!

T.T
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striker
Profile Joined August 2004
France51 Posts
October 15 2004 07:36 GMT
#30
it works as other stats and it sold.
babywolfcn
Profile Joined June 2004
China53 Posts
October 15 2004 07:55 GMT
#31
valkyrie + waith will take down only waith,But becarefult of you valks
YOu should micro them to avoid first wave of attcking
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