WTF should i do if I go goli+tanks and he goes tank+wraith ?everytime i loose because he catches my dropships...should i put up a third expo??? what BU should i make ?

GroT

Belgium3003 Posts

October 04 2004 18:21 GMT

dont fill up your dropships and fly around if he has wraiths

ToKoreaWithLove

Norway10161 Posts

October 04 2004 18:25 GMT

haha, nice grot

SpuniasauR

Australia1500 Posts

October 04 2004 19:25 GMT

spam turrets, make wall, expo everywhere behind the wall.

---> then bcs

Orome

Switzerland11984 Posts

October 04 2004 20:02 GMT

If he goes wraith, he wants to gain control over the map, for example over cliffs, because he can kill dropships with his wraiths, and kill anything with his wraiths that gets near his tanks. By doing that, he can destroy your eco, and overmacro you.

What you have to do is expo as much as you can and protecting them very well (put a few goliaths on your cliff for example). You then have a better eco than him and can kill him...

BroOd

Austin10833 Posts

October 04 2004 21:22 GMT

A quick scanner and well places scouts can be livesavers vs wraiths. When expanding, feel free to drop an SCV on an overlooking cliff and build a turret or two. This can buy you enough time to get your own dropship to your cliff in the event that he does drop on it. One very important thing is turret placement. Don't put three turrets around your command center and none around your base, or you might find yourself completely fucked by a quick 2 tank / 3 wraith rush drop. If you do decide to drop his quickly, scan ahead of yourself, so you don't run into his wraiths. Going wraiths can often leave a terran open to early turret/tank containment, so as was said, be very liberal with those turrets.

SpiriT-DemoN-

United States684 Posts

October 05 2004 02:12 GMT

i recommend getting the Gol range upgrade and expanding..

STIMEY d okgm fish

Canada6140 Posts

October 05 2004 02:30 GMT

i think thats why ppl float a rax or scout scv before putting dropship in harm's way, maybe u could even cancel dropship if u get a lucky spot

NoSteratu

Turkey770 Posts

October 05 2004 04:05 GMT

get one more gaz expo with turret and make more wraiths..

Empyrean

17058 Posts

October 05 2004 04:53 GMT

#10

gogo valkyries haha

BullocH

Canada51 Posts

October 05 2004 04:56 GMT

#11

so stop doing gol tank, just wraith tank better than him

Capulet

Canada686 Posts

October 05 2004 05:07 GMT

#12

You shouldn't just guess what to make. Try to keep a constant view of what your enemy is going for and try to counter it.

oPtioNaLk

Korea (South)564 Posts

October 05 2004 11:17 GMT

#13

On October 05 2004 03:20 Hashe wrote:
WTF should i do if I go goli+tanks and he goes tank+wraith ?everytime i loose because he catches my dropships...should i put up a third expo??? what BU should i make ?

Don't lose your dships. If he's catching your dships all the time then it means either you are going in a straightline to your destination or you are going on an obvious path. Just take the long route if you need to, it's better than risking your precious cargo.

Ack1027

United States7873 Posts

October 05 2004 11:24 GMT

#14

In mirror matchups if you're having trouble beating him with alternate strats, always become faster and more efficient than your opponent with the strat he is using.

In this situation, Wraith + Valk[s] > Wraiths
Wraith + D-Matrix > Wraiths

Casper...

Liberia4948 Posts

October 05 2004 11:56 GMT

#15

stop playing hackers k hf

Liquid`Jinro

Sweden33719 Posts

October 05 2004 12:01 GMT

#16

On October 05 2004 13:53 This-is-not-a-smurf wrote:
gogo valkyries haha

This is actually good advice o.O I seem to recall wraith tank being countered by gol tank or something.. I dont play TvT at all though so I might be off--

baal

10708 Posts

October 05 2004 12:07 GMT

#17

easy, just choose a weak spot and drop your foce, if he is protecting his natural a lot go for the main, just get a big army and SCVs (scvs are important), drop and scan, he cant overpower u cuz wraith sucks for that so he will try to make you spend your scan but thats why you build some turrets, and keep droping him, just make a diversion, if you are going for main put a bait for the wraiths in other place, like a floting estructure in his expo, he will go and kill it and he wont be able to catchyour drop in his main.

SpiriT-DemoN-

United States684 Posts

October 05 2004 14:06 GMT

#18

watch some ArtOfHan replays.. his strat against a terran with wraith is bringing in a slow switch to wraith himself.. he usually builds more ports then the other guy and just out masses him. its a good style to play

ejai63

United States2101 Posts

October 05 2004 18:16 GMT

#19

play oov style and just have one more starport than he does

baal

10708 Posts

October 05 2004 18:24 GMT

#20

On October 05 2004 20:24 Abyss_Bahamut wrote:
In mirror matchups if you're having trouble beating him with alternate strats, always become faster and more efficient than your opponent with the strat he is using.

In this situation, Wraith + Valk[s] > Wraiths
Wraith + D-Matrix > Wraiths

are you on drugs or something? Wraith + D-Matrix? lol wtf.

And the counter to 2fact tank is D-matrix gols? lmao

Pob

880 Posts

October 05 2004 21:24 GMT

#21

or with the amount of gas that science costs get 2 wraiths instead?

NeverTheEndlessWiz

Singapore827 Posts

October 05 2004 23:08 GMT

#22

vs a wraither either play wraiths urself and outmicro
OR
play turret gol grounding (with tanks at correct places of coz)

Chris307

3095 Posts

October 05 2004 23:45 GMT

#23

i lkie the idea of wraiths tvt iloveoov uses them well and its always amaizng to tee teh crazy wraith cloud

thelucas

Slovakia285 Posts

October 15 2004 00:15 GMT

#24

Try to go with tanks+siege before him and control the most part of a map. Then expo + valkyries, download nada's xellos, iloveoov's sync' replay packs, they will ansver u. Use bw chart.

JustFun

Estonia77 Posts

October 15 2004 02:28 GMT

#25

wraith tank owns

dork_of_death!!

United States374 Posts

October 15 2004 03:52 GMT

#26

turrets are the way

terran always has extra minerals so turret the hell out of everything

I prefer building a ring of turrets around my opponent's base and tank containing the front

mcmascote

Brazil1575 Posts

October 15 2004 04:31 GMT

#27

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sundance

Slovakia3201 Posts

October 15 2004 04:34 GMT

#28

I always vs this strat go tanks and gols.Then igo mass expand and i turret whole map and outmacro him.Sometimes i try to kill him really fast or go BC with valks. and always have strong ground army.At first i was loseing vs this strat but now i totall own wraith+tank users ^^.
TvT is my best match up.And i really like wraith+tank too but i dont like mirroring i like countering.