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RoX.KIS.BRAT_OK: From D to B+ - Page 5

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quirinus
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Croatia2489 Posts
July 24 2009 11:07 GMT
#81
sick sick, he just dismantles everyone >_<

thanks for sharing that op, and brat_ok <3
All candles lit within him, and there was purity. | First auto-promoted BW LP editor.
Marine50
Profile Joined September 2007
Australia1764 Posts
July 24 2009 12:29 GMT
#82
now that's a lot of destination!
IRIS FIGHTING!!!
araav
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Armenia1590 Posts
July 24 2009 12:33 GMT
#83
the kid pwned me tvp a couple of days ago
The flower that blooms in adversity is the most rare and beautiful of all.
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
July 24 2009 15:08 GMT
#84
On July 24 2009 10:09 3clipse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2009 07:13 AtlaS wrote:
All I can say is that his TvP is insane. His TvZ is good too, but I see a bunch of little mistakes that seem to drag on the game longer than it should( i mean, he still wins like 95% of his TvZ games) But his TvP is damn near flawless

This.

Anyone else think he usually makes too few medics? That said, his TvZ and TvT are very strong, they just don't impress when put next to his TvP. Several players ask if he's a progamer after losing to his TvP. xD

Honestly though, this is the kind of player that should be going to Korea. Someone with aggressive, creative strategies and an uncanny game sense. Mechanincs can always be trained, some things can't be.


If anyhting ii would say that mechanics are the hard thing to learn because it takes so much time, aggresion and build orders can be picked up easily.
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
SkylineSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States564 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-24 16:58:00
July 24 2009 16:57 GMT
#85
game sense and aggression takes so much longer to pick up. knowing when to attack, how to attack, etc etc is not something you can teach.

i use to be a fastest noob, i was pretty good at fastest and it trained my mechanics. my apm/micro/macro/build order on low is good, but my decision making is really bad and takes a lot longer to learn that. i can play a perfect 10 minutes of the build order and sill throw the game away because my game sense/decision making on lowmoney is still very noob

so yes call me a typical Fastest noob but point is, mechanics can be trained, game sense has to be learned. because mechanics is pretty much multi task, micro/mass/build/etc etc at the same time, the more you play the better your gonna get simple as that.
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
July 24 2009 17:22 GMT
#86
I haven't seen any gg yet
FirstBorn
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Romania3955 Posts
July 24 2009 17:24 GMT
#87
On July 25 2009 02:22 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
I haven't seen any gg yet


like oneother said, check the game vs lovestory lol
SonuvBob: Yes, the majority of TL is college-aged, and thus clearly stupid.
Mongery
Profile Joined May 2009
892 Posts
July 24 2009 18:08 GMT
#88
Really nice. But many others are A- atm. But nice anyways
http://www.twitch.tv/mongery_tv https://www.esportsearnings.com/players/27699-mongery-
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
July 24 2009 18:16 GMT
#89
On July 25 2009 02:24 FirstBorn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2009 02:22 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
I haven't seen any gg yet


like oneother said, check the game vs lovestory lol


I said "good game."

Not oh wow he is killing his own buildings and having an emo self-destruction moment
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-25 00:01:21
July 25 2009 00:00 GMT
#90
i liked the games vs Spring and Bassen hahahahaha.

Also some convos are funny.


fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
meathook
Profile Joined December 2007
1289 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-25 03:01:20
July 25 2009 02:59 GMT
#91
On July 25 2009 03:16 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2009 02:24 FirstBorn wrote:
On July 25 2009 02:22 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
I haven't seen any gg yet


like oneother said, check the game vs lovestory lol


I said "good game."

Not oh wow he is killing his own buildings and having an emo self-destruction moment

So far, the games that have stood out (in my eyes, at least) are the one against wolfcraft and poinsetai (or something like that...)

EDIT: In other news, seems that account has reached A- now, with 87% win rate.
An ugly planet. A bug planet.
JoMal
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Trinidad/Tobago1177 Posts
July 25 2009 03:05 GMT
#92
He's really good at laying mines !
Oh you mad cause i'm stylin on you
JoMal
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Trinidad/Tobago1177 Posts
July 25 2009 03:12 GMT
#93
On July 24 2009 02:57 AtlaS wrote:
that game against lovestory87 was hilarious


LOL. EMO
Oh you mad cause i'm stylin on you
ghostWriter
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3302 Posts
July 26 2009 04:02 GMT
#94
I wouldn't mind seeing some of his new games, especially against tarson.
Sullifam
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
July 26 2009 04:49 GMT
#95
On July 24 2009 15:08 ImNotBisu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2009 10:57 travis wrote:
On July 24 2009 10:17 ImNotBisu wrote:
Isn't he one of the top foreigners? Why is he only B+?


did you even read the thread...
did you even read the first post

clearly he is b+ because that's the point he is currently at. you do not just magically jump from D to A+ by being good.


Just considering how much he practices, a total number of ~50 games seems minute. I mean he probably plays that many games every 2-3 days.


#1 - the majority of the games he plays are probably not on ladder (or maybe they are on a different account)
#2 - you're seriously underestimating B+ with 3 losses. Some top foreigners can only reach B+ probably (especially vs koreans), and A- is probably the norm. Only the very best of foreigners can battle the 1500 points from A- to A vs koreans.
#3 - this rep pack isn't to say "oh look how good I am", it's to provide for the community. laddering through the ranks often provides some interesting, amusing, or exciting games.
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