Netizen replies: "What... Movie was dropped..." "Why was he dropped?Why was he dropped?Why was he dropped?Why was he dropped?Why was he dropped?Why was he dropped?" "Is it so that he can focus on the MSL? Soon the 5th round is finishing up so... are they helping him focus on the MSL??" "Looks like grandpa toss is going to have to do everything on his own again.." "So that he can focus on his individual league? Fucking kidding me... If you lose once you're out and it's not even like he's already made the ro4 or ro8 yet.. if you word it like that then i guess players who reach the finals of the MSL should be dropped as well... kekeke" "Who the hell gets dropped just so they can focus on individual leagues -_- You guys are retarded. If they're not put on the roster that's exactly it - it's not like CJ lacks players to choose from, on top of that Movie hasn't been coming out in SPL recently either, and after his loss to Fantasy it's clear he's in a slump now." "CJ's a team where if you don't play sincerely during practice or even if you play well, if you have a problem mentally somewhere, you get sent down to B-team right away..." "I want to know the reason for Movie's drop... is he being transferred?? Is that really it??" "Wdyou mean transfer. It's not like CJ's protoss line is rich - it's just Much and Movie... maybe a trade but it's definitely not a transfer keke"
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Most pathetic progamer P vs Z ive seen in a while. I'm convinced that game had a lot to do with movie being removed;)
Its probably not this but trust me movie does not have the skills to make it yet.
Hes capable of winning when his team gives him really really good build orders and his opponent happens to do something thats weak against it but other than that he has no ability to adapt, his multitasking is weak, and his micro is HORRID for a progamer.
Movie is a weak player who has greatly benefitted from his limited role as a sniper
Over the long run im sure his win% will be significantly lower than the golden 50%. He would only hurt his team.
What I'm REALLY wondering is...will Bisu continue to shine in SKT without a player like Kingdom as a mentor? Most likely he will still preform well because of his excellent mechanics but I think we will see him drop off a little bit.
On June 24 2009 16:50 TheFoReveRwaR wrote: Watch Killer vs Movie.
Most pathetic progamer P vs Z ive seen in a while. I'm convinced that game had a lot to do with movie being removed;)
Its probably not this but trust me movie does not have the skills to make it yet.
Hes capable of winning when his team gives him really really good build orders and his opponent happens to do something thats weak against it but other than that he has no ability to adapt, his multitasking is weak, and his micro is HORRID for a progamer.
Movie is a weak player
Over the long run im sure his win% will be significantly lower than the golden 50%. He would only hurt his team.
I think he played great vs fantasy, especially after starting with 1 worker less (failed gas steal attempt).
Other than that he needs time to grow, and at this time of the season CJ should be preparing for finals and sending there best roster, so i don't see how adding a player that always gets added and never plays will help.
Maybe they are trying to do what they did with savior and just toughen him up.
Well snow is probably about as good, and movie happens to be in an indivdual league. So maybe they just figured they might as well let Movie focus on the league sense he wouldn't be of any real strength in proleague anyways.
On June 24 2009 16:55 TheFoReveRwaR wrote: What I'm REALLY wondering is...will Bisu continue to shine in SKT without a player like Kingdom as a mentor? Most likely he will still preform well because of his excellent mechanics but I think we will see him drop off a little bit.
I doubt it. KT doesn't have a Terran Coach and Hwaseugn doesn't have a Zerg coach, but that's hardly hindered JD and Flash.
Who knows maybe theyd win 6 starleagues in a row if they had an old gosu to coach them;)
JD and Flash are freaks though. But ya so is Bisu so it probably won't much difference. Only a slight change.
I will note though..Flash started his career out 11-0 against P back when Reach/Nal_Ra were still on the KTF payroll. Not that its related but I'm sure their good advice had a lot to do with that.
heh.. apparently a lot of ppl are like wtf that Movie got dropped, even though he did just recently get a win over Jaedong
I'm more "wtf" @ Doctor.K being the "captain" of SKT1.. I mean with BoxeR being back in the scene, him being a freakin' legend and returning to gameplay, not to mention Bisu who is without a doubt the absolute best Protoss out there today and there's also fantasy which has been pretty beastly lately.
CJ has enough depth as it is, good to see they are trying to further their options into the future. But why Movie? I'd rather have someone like Much or Nbs being demoted rather than Movie.
On June 24 2009 17:38 Sosha wrote: I'm more "wtf" @ Doctor.K being the "captain" of SKT1.. I mean with BoxeR being back in the scene, him being a freakin' legend and returning to gameplay, not to mention Bisu who is without a doubt the absolute best Protoss out there today and there's also fantasy which has been pretty beastly lately.
O_o gL
Teams rarely use their best player as captain, because there are other responsibilities that come with it besides just as a player.
So many CJ fans freaking out about Movie being demoted for Snow ... to me it just looks like they're going to reward those who played great in Minor League (Devil, Snow, Hydra), as well as the veterans who don't play much (Nbs, sAviOr, Orion) by giving them all a little playing time in the last four games of the season.
Movie didn't really fit in either group, plus he hasn't been showing good results in PL lately, unlike Much. I fully expect him to be on their roster for the playoffs.
On June 25 2009 01:22 p4NDemik wrote: So many CJ fans freaking out about Movie being demoted for Snow ... to me it just looks like they're going to reward those who played great in Minor League (Devil, Snow, Hydra), as well as the veterans who don't play much (Nbs, sAviOr, Orion) by giving them all a little playing time in the last four games of the season.
Movie didn't really fit in either group, plus he hasn't been showing good results in PL lately, unlike Much. I fully expect him to be on their roster for the playoffs.
ah, good explanation
still, CJ has SO MANY ZERGS on its lineup (3 that can play well, 3 that are not so great), only 3 toss (snow and nbs are... mediocre at best, and much is good but not great [but he's awesome]), and 2 T.
I can't believe that movie was dropped. And don't bring up the game against Killer, anyone can have a bad game. Effort, the hottest player right now, lost to Iron who was winless before than and looked terrible too.
so when the season ends they can make one more round of roster changes? is there a page somewhere that explains all the trading/roster changing rules? searched but couldn't find...
haha with how much people are going crazy about Movie, one month I want to see Hwaseung Oz just drop Jaedong from there lineup with no explanation just to see everyone freak out.
Seriously, there is something serious about Movie dropping. Regardless of him being a sniper or not, he played MUCH BETTER (remember Movie vs Stork?) than a lot of A-players which have not been devoted:
Man I gotta say. With the way Movie has been performing I'm wondering if he did something we don't know about to deserve that demote. No offense to Uncle toss but this kid would perform better any day.
On June 25 2009 11:26 NeverGG wrote: Not a very dramatic month aside from the whole Movie issue. I wish OZ would do something with their line up - it's still way too Jaedong-dependant.
They really can't unless Lomo, Backho, and Hiya step up. And their b-team doesn't look too hot either. Jaedong is going to be carrying for a while it seems.
Kingdom was dropped because he's going to be a new OGN commentator, replacing TheMarine, who went to the army to do his service.
I don't really like Movie being dropped, but if he's really as good as everyone says, then he'll tear up Minor League. If he doesn't, then he probably gets lucky with build orders and takes a win every now and then.
And BoxeR isn't Captain of SK Telecom 1 because just because he's a legend, doesn't mean his skills are gonna be as great as they used to be. He's gonna be rusty, and the era he used to live in is more micro filled then this era. But I'm pretty sure that not being Captain isn't stopping him from mentoring, with iloveoov, fantasy; the next best Terran, if he's not already. Bisu isn't Captain, because as a Captain, you're more busy with boosting your guys' morale rather then playing. How many times do you see Doctor.K play? Or SoO? Or DaezanG? Even NaDa, since he was recently put as Captain. You should get my point.
On June 26 2009 03:06 SynC[gm] wrote: Kingdom was dropped because he's going to be a new OGN commentator, replacing TheMarine, who went to the army to do his service.
I don't really like Movie being dropped, but if he's really as good as everyone says, then he'll tear up Minor League. If he doesn't, then he probably gets lucky with build orders and takes a win every now and then.
And BoxeR isn't Captain of SK Telecom 1 because just because he's a legend, doesn't mean his skills are gonna be as great as they used to be. He's gonna be rusty, and the era he used to live in is more micro filled then this era. But I'm pretty sure that not being Captain isn't stopping him from mentoring, with iloveoov, fantasy; the next best Terran, if he's not already. Bisu isn't Captain, because as a Captain, you're more busy with boosting your guys' morale rather then playing. How many times do you see Doctor.K play? Or SoO? Or DaezanG? Even NaDa, since he was recently put as Captain. You should get my point.
As good as everyone says? Watch movie vs jaedong + Show Spoiler +
in which movie wins. There is also the game against fantasy against outsider which was exciting as hell. Fantasy is arguably the best tvp player right now (just watch his game against jangbi on god's garden) and for movie to take him so far is a testament to his obvious skill.
On June 26 2009 03:06 SynC[gm] wrote: Kingdom was dropped because he's going to be a new OGN commentator, replacing TheMarine, who went to the army to do his service.
I don't really like Movie being dropped, but if he's really as good as everyone says, then he'll tear up Minor League. If he doesn't, then he probably gets lucky with build orders and takes a win every now and then.
And BoxeR isn't Captain of SK Telecom 1 because just because he's a legend, doesn't mean his skills are gonna be as great as they used to be. He's gonna be rusty, and the era he used to live in is more micro filled then this era. But I'm pretty sure that not being Captain isn't stopping him from mentoring, with iloveoov, fantasy; the next best Terran, if he's not already. Bisu isn't Captain, because as a Captain, you're more busy with boosting your guys' morale rather then playing. How many times do you see Doctor.K play? Or SoO? Or DaezanG? Even NaDa, since he was recently put as Captain. You should get my point.
Boxer is not the captain, I think because Doctor.K is doing fine as captain. Doctor.K has been captain for a long time and there is really no need to kick him out (also unfair to do so) just because boxer has more background.
There's no way Movie would be dropped because of slump or lack of skill or anything like this, come on, just look at his results!
In my opinion there are only two possibilities: a) he's gonna get traded soon (quite doesn't make sense when there's PL playoffs coming) b) he did something against the CJ rules - like watching porn in practice hours - thus got punished (more likely and it also happened few months ago in some other team if i remember well)
On June 26 2009 20:33 ondik wrote: There's no way Movie would be dropped because of slump or lack of skill or anything like this, come on, just look at his results!
In my opinion there are only two possibilities: a) he's gonna get traded soon (quite doesn't make sense when there's PL playoffs coming) b) he did something against the CJ rules - like watching porn in practice hours - thus got punished (more likely and it also happened few months ago in some other team if i remember well)
yea, took the words right out of my mouth. there's no way he'd get sent down to b-team. it's probably one of the two. Movie is their best young Protoss player.
On June 26 2009 20:33 ondik wrote: There's no way Movie would be dropped because of slump or lack of skill or anything like this, come on, just look at his results!
In my opinion there are only two possibilities: a) he's gonna get traded soon (quite doesn't make sense when there's PL playoffs coming) b) he did something against the CJ rules - like watching porn in practice hours - thus got punished (more likely and it also happened few months ago in some other team if i remember well)
yea, took the words right out of my mouth. there's no way he'd get sent down to b-team. it's probably one of the two. Movie is their best young Protoss player.
lmao who got caught watching porn in practice hours? That's so embarrassing.
On June 26 2009 20:33 ondik wrote: There's no way Movie would be dropped because of slump or lack of skill or anything like this, come on, just look at his results!
In my opinion there are only two possibilities: a) he's gonna get traded soon (quite doesn't make sense when there's PL playoffs coming) b) he did something against the CJ rules - like watching porn in practice hours - thus got punished (more likely and it also happened few months ago in some other team if i remember well)
lmao who got caught watching porn in practice hours? That's so embarrassing.
I was referring to "he did something against CJ rules"
Now I remembered that also Nada had been punished for beeing with his GF instead of training (someone correct me), not sure if he had been transfered to B team though.
On June 26 2009 20:33 ondik wrote: There's no way Movie would be dropped because of slump or lack of skill or anything like this, come on, just look at his results!
In my opinion there are only two possibilities: a) he's gonna get traded soon (quite doesn't make sense when there's PL playoffs coming) b) he did something against the CJ rules - like watching porn in practice hours - thus got punished (more likely and it also happened few months ago in some other team if i remember well)
yea, took the words right out of my mouth. there's no way he'd get sent down to b-team. it's probably one of the two. Movie is their best young Protoss player.
lmao who got caught watching porn in practice hours? That's so embarrassing.
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actually everyone else was asleep except him, oov and BoxeR.
On June 26 2009 20:33 ondik wrote: There's no way Movie would be dropped because of slump or lack of skill or anything like this, come on, just look at his results!
In my opinion there are only two possibilities: a) he's gonna get traded soon (quite doesn't make sense when there's PL playoffs coming) b) he did something against the CJ rules - like watching porn in practice hours - thus got punished (more likely and it also happened few months ago in some other team if i remember well)
lmao who got caught watching porn in practice hours? That's so embarrassing.
I was referring to "he did something against CJ rules"
Now I remembered that also Nada had been punished for beeing with his GF instead of training (someone correct me), not sure if he had been transfered to B team though.
Lol transfer Nada to the B-team over rulebreaking?
Only if you want the biggest shit storm to ever grace any sport ever then go right on ahead :p Nada was in the top 30 Kespa for something like 80 straight months so I doubt he's ever had a stint on the B-team.
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