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RamenStyle
Profile Joined September 2004
United States1929 Posts
December 28 2008 13:54 GMT
#101
Oh... Ok, I got TLPDizing owned and yes, I thought it was a speculative poll. Although in my defense, the idea of a 7th dragon is not that farfetched :p
DoX.)
Profile Joined December 2008
Singapore6164 Posts
December 28 2008 14:10 GMT
#102
Idra + NonY FTW
Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
December 28 2008 15:27 GMT
#103
Terran : Skyhigh; not much to explain.

Protoss: Tempest; I believe that if he improve his decision making he can become really good

Zerg: HoeJJa; I would say obviously Effort if he was in the poll. However, I think HoeJJa has a potential even though he got totally dismantled by Bisu in GOM...
o3.power91
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Bahrain5288 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-28 15:50:14
December 28 2008 15:49 GMT
#104
Zerg:
(Z)HoeJJa

Protoss:
(P)Tempest (would he be considered a rookie?)

Terran:
(T)sKyHigh

7th Dragon:
+ Show Spoiler +
(P)back+ Show Spoiler +
(P)HOOOOOOOO!!!!
wswordsmen
Profile Joined October 2007
United States987 Posts
December 23 2009 20:11 GMT
#105
Bring
Up
My
Post count

Actually, the bump is for the end of the year review on how the predictions came out. And it looks like it turned out pretty well. Zero was did the best of the 10 zergs and increased his lifetime win rate 10% over the course of 2009.

Discounting Nony (due to bias) Movie turned out pretty well, and the other new Protoss blood isn't in the poll.

Terran is not nearly as good as it looked because Skyhight was in Gom Season 2's semis and had qualified for MST at the time, if anything I would call him a disappointment. I can't think of any exceptional new terran this year though, the closest would be Fantasy but he had just lost to Stork in the Incruit OSL.
Kouda
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States2205 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-23 20:19:20
December 23 2009 20:13 GMT
#106
Backhoo. Just put Backho as the 7th dragon

Edit: My ninja edit came before I saw your post >:D
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-23 20:16:29
December 23 2009 20:16 GMT
#107
Nice ninja edit @ above T_T
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-23 20:20:02
December 23 2009 20:19 GMT
#108
I consider Effort a rookie and he had a much more successful year than Zero, so...

practically CJ won the rookie--> superstar for 2009!
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
Amarxist
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States371 Posts
December 23 2009 20:26 GMT
#109
I don't understand the reasoning for not having Effort up there.

Pretty much CJ line up for the rookies though.
☺ ☻
Mortality
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States4790 Posts
December 23 2009 20:28 GMT
#110
Stupidly not realizing that this poll was a year old, I voted in it. I was also about to write a post commenting how unbelievable it is that people would pick Hoejja over type-B and Shine.

Then I scrolled down and saw the "old post." GG me.



Anyhow, yeah, this poll was actually rather accurate, a bit surprising in the case of Movie since IMO he was an absolute nobody at that time (with the only match-up he performed remotely decently in being PvZ). Now Movie is probably the top up-and-coming Protoss, with Violet being the only other contender.

SkyHigh was already looking strong around this time and Zero I'm pretty sure was actually in MSL at that time.

As for the 7th dragon, that poll kind of flopped seeing as how Protoss players started crumbling again in 2009. But if there was one, maybe BackHo. A lot of people hate him for knocking out better players (like Bisu, Jaedong...) and then losing to garbage, but he made it pretty deep into leagues a few times in recent memory. By contrast, I recall Much as already starting to slump.
Even though this Proleague bullshit has been completely bogus, I really, really, really do not see how Khan can lose this. I swear I will kill myself if they do. - nesix before KHAN lost to eNature
Trezeguet
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2656 Posts
December 23 2009 20:34 GMT
#111
wow, with the exception of effort, this was really spot on. It also seems that only a very few of those players were really successful (with the exception of the zerg players). There sure isn't much room at the top.
MamiyaOtaru
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1687 Posts
December 23 2009 20:44 GMT
#112
Where's Killer/Baxter?
ghostWriter
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3302 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-23 20:55:07
December 23 2009 20:52 GMT
#113
wtf
You have to be shitting me, skyhigh may not be as monstrous now as he used to be, but he was fucking good. Don't tell me you don't remember his reverse all-kill on hwaseung in the winner's league. Even if all the players weren't stellar, it's hard to win just one game when your team is down 0-3 and you have to win 4 in a row with JAEDONG as your first opponent. The pressure must have been enormous.
Sullifam
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
December 23 2009 20:54 GMT
#114
On December 24 2009 05:52 ghostWriter wrote:
wtf
why bump a year old thread lol


On December 24 2009 05:11 wswordsmen wrote:
Actually, the bump is for the end of the year review on how the predictions came out.



Makes perfect sense to me.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
December 23 2009 20:55 GMT
#115
On December 24 2009 05:54 Southlight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2009 05:52 ghostWriter wrote:
wtf
why bump a year old thread lol


Show nested quote +
On December 24 2009 05:11 wswordsmen wrote:
Actually, the bump is for the end of the year review on how the predictions came out.



Makes perfect sense to me.

nice one ghostwriter
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
December 23 2009 20:59 GMT
#116
Maybe someone should remake this poll for predictions for next year?
Remember Violet.
ghostWriter
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3302 Posts
December 23 2009 20:59 GMT
#117
On December 24 2009 05:55 Grobyc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2009 05:54 Southlight wrote:
On December 24 2009 05:52 ghostWriter wrote:
wtf
why bump a year old thread lol


On December 24 2009 05:11 wswordsmen wrote:
Actually, the bump is for the end of the year review on how the predictions came out.



Makes perfect sense to me.

nice one ghostwriter


lolol I changed it after I reread op, before he said that
Sullifam
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
December 23 2009 21:03 GMT
#118
On December 24 2009 05:44 MamiyaOtaru wrote:
Where's Killer/Baxter?


He didn't exist last year
Chen
Profile Joined June 2009
United States6344 Posts
December 23 2009 21:03 GMT
#119
On December 24 2009 05:52 ghostWriter wrote:
wtf
You have to be shitting me, skyhigh may not be as monstrous now as he used to be, but he was fucking good. Don't tell me you don't remember his reverse all-kill on hwaseung in the winner's league. Even if all the players weren't stellar, it's hard to win just one game when your team is down 0-3 and you have to win 4 in a row with JAEDONG as your first opponent. The pressure must have been enormous.

I'd say Fantasy has been more impressive this year, last month aside. 2 OSL silvers and a semi-final. 2-0 vs Jaedong in proleague finals>reverse all kill vs Oz imo. Oz without Jaedong is a joke so its basically 2 wins against JD vs 1 win against him. But he's #2 on the list for sure, too bad there arnt any other good up and coming terrans.
SkytoM
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Austria1137 Posts
December 23 2009 21:03 GMT
#120
(Z)great
(P)Movie
(T)IdrA
(P)Much
Bisu... ;-(
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