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On December 09 2008 05:35 GinNtoniC wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2008 05:33 vanVidd wrote:It's just how it works. people are bad mannered. Because people that are bad mannered usually get away with it on the internet. Can't we all just get along?  Are you seriously writing this after your last post? Show nested quote +On December 09 2008 04:51 vanVidd wrote: I'm starting to not like ICCUP. I hate people that act so incredibly childish, and have no such thing as respect to them. It's just stupid, grow up ICCUP admins. cheese gg no re
They told us what happened and its out of their control, so stop trying to keep the arguing alive. Drop it and lets move on.
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On December 09 2008 05:35 GinNtoniC wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2008 05:33 vanVidd wrote:It's just how it works. people are bad mannered. Because people that are bad mannered usually get away with it on the internet. Can't we all just get along?  Are you seriously writing this after your last post? Show nested quote +On December 09 2008 04:51 vanVidd wrote: I'm starting to not like ICCUP. I hate people that act so incredibly childish, and have no such thing as respect to them. It's just stupid, grow up ICCUP admins. cheese gg no re
I think it is decidedly so that vanVidd is obviously one of the dumber people registered @ teamliquid.net....
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On December 09 2008 05:34 Hot_Bid wrote: honestly, iccup could've just saved a ton of grief and anger if they just put "this is what happened, we are having sudden problems with cables that is out of our control, sorry for the inconvenience." instead of putting up jokes and coming into this thread to argue. would've been 100x better way to handle it. this is a time when you need to tell all your admins what the strategy is for approaching such a situation, instead of everyone just doing their own thing.
1. people who are criticizing them need to chill the fuck out, a week or two delay is not the end of the world. problems happen.
2. people who are yelling "omg how can u criticize icc, u r so selfish it is free" are missing the point. just because something is free or a service does not mean it is immune to criticism. you can still have standards of professionalism and conduct for staff / service that is 100% free. volunteer work is not a get out of jail free card, it doesn't wash away all responsibility. people should still be expected to act reasonably and keep their promises.
that said, those complaining are coming down awfully hard on icc, we should just really be patient.
Excellent post, pretty much what i have been trying to say and im glad a respected member of staff agrees with me and puts in better words!
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Some of you are being COMPLETELY retarded. I swear, it sounds like for some of you if your parents promised a 24-inch monitor for Christmas and were late by a few days you'd fucking crucify them.
Do you guys want iCCup or not? Players bitch and admins bitch back. I really don't give a shit what you do, I'm not going to judge that. But some of you act like you are better off without iCCup. You post here, so obviously you want iCCup back. DON'T ACT LIKE YOU DON'T NEED ICCUP. Jesus Christ. Obviously admins are gonna get upset if you dis them. They spend their free time doing this, so they will certainly be annoyed. I don't care if you bitch or moan. Just realize that you're choosing your anger over iCCup.
Just ask yourself whether you'd be better off without iCCup. That goes to players ESPECIALLY (fucking retards) but it's also for admins. I'm sure there were a couple of reasons you admins started this big idea. I'm sure it was partly for recognition. I know how being appreciated feels. If that was your only reason, maybe it's better off for you if you quit. We won't stop you, although it's unfortunate. But as someone who has been in a similar situation, what kept me going was the vision that it might help build the community and allow people to have fun. Surely, some admins enjoy making iCCup just for the joy of it? Please look inside yourself to find the motivation.
There's a child in all of us wanting to get even instead of getting what we want. Clearly, we want iCCup. Remember that.
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On December 09 2008 05:41 StRyKeR wrote: Some of you are being COMPLETELY retarded. I swear, it sounds like for some of you if your parents promised a 24-inch monitor for Christmas and were late by a few days you'd fucking crucify them.
Do you guys want iCCup or not? Players bitch and admins bitch back. I really don't give a shit what you do, I'm not going to judge that. But some of you act like you are better off without iCCup. You post here, so obviously you want iCCup back. DON'T ACT LIKE YOU DON'T NEED ICCUP. Jesus Christ. Obviously admins are gonna get upset if you dis them. They spend their free time doing this, so they will certainly be annoyed. I don't care if you bitch or moan. Just realize that you're choosing your anger over iCCup.
Just ask yourself whether you'd be better off without iCCup. That goes to players ESPECIALLY (fucking retards) but it's also for admins. I'm sure there were a couple of reasons you admins started this big idea. I'm sure it was partly for recognition. I know how being appreciated feels. If that was your only reason, maybe it's better off for you if you quit. We won't stop you, although it's unfortunate. But as someone who has been in a similar situation, what kept me going was the vision that it might help build the community and allow people to have fun. Surely, some admins enjoy making iCCup just for the joy of it? Please look inside yourself to find the motivation.
There's a child in all of us wanting to get even instead of getting what we want. Clearly, we want iCCup. Remember that.
yes.
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Bah.. I just want to play..
My addiction is really getting displayed in this crisis. :O
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On December 09 2008 05:43 Ota Solgryn wrote: Bah.. I just want to play..
My addiction is really getting displayed in this crisis. :O
Mine too lol, I was able to play 50 games over saturday / sunday. Today I had the day off of work, and was hoping to double that. Either way, im just glad ICCUP is around, or instead of 50 games in 2 days, it would be more like 0
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Can we drop the negativity as a whole here? Yes things got screwed up they might have been handled better but lets just say that the users responses could have been better too, flaming eachother for it until the server goes up does nothing. If you have something meaningful to contribute go ahead but if your post is going to contain swearwords, the word jesus christ, the words childish or other belittling terms why not consider leaving it? Really would just like to move past it so that people who are spending a lot of time trying to fix things don't need to keep coming back here to respond and therefore making things take longer.
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I'm going to copy and paste what I wrote on GGnet:
Holy shit.... The amount of BM and immaturity towards the iCCup staff is ridiculous. Some of you guys need to grow up. Shit happens. ICCup had problems, and maybe some of their admins didnt deal with it properly, but some of the posts (here but especially at TL.net) are simply trolling and flaming admins that put their own time and effort into a project that we all benefit from. Flaming and BM isnt going to make iCCup get up faster, if you have a problem with an admin take it up with iCCup super admins when the site is up, and if you are pissed about not having a ladder, try and start your own ladder.
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Yeah. The timer hit 0:00:00 and then there was a technical issue that required more time. It has happened even with some things TL has set a counter for. These kind of things happen very often especially when the majority of the work is done by volunteers.
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On December 09 2008 05:31 Samsung-Lzuruha wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2008 05:29 2rhyme wrote:there's a thing about talking on internet...once a guy trash talked and insulted me on the bw channel ..i was thinking...if i will see that guy i would kick hiss ass so hard ...but when i saw him at a LAN ..i saw a shy, skinny 15 year old with glasses ..  ) ..this is the bw comminity...a bounch of big mouths :D Who won?
well i'm 23 ..1.85m and 80 kilos. and i couldn't beat a 15 year old )
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its ok rael. i can understand that some ppl post just to get a nicer icon before their name even if its meaningless LOL
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no negativity... i belive in iCCup :[-] i just wonder what happened there :q
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So quick question in regards to those optic cables...that has to do with the server that the website is on? Or the abyss is on? Or both orrrr wha?
p.s. sorry if im an idiot.
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On December 09 2008 05:35 GinNtoniC wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2008 05:33 vanVidd wrote:It's just how it works. people are bad mannered. Because people that are bad mannered usually get away with it on the internet. Can't we all just get along?  Are you seriously writing this after your last post? Show nested quote +On December 09 2008 04:51 vanVidd wrote: I'm starting to not like ICCUP. I hate people that act so incredibly childish, and have no such thing as respect to them. It's just stupid, grow up ICCUP admins. cheese gg no re
Yeah, I'm having some internal conflicts. Whether I hate or love icc. So the reason that I don't think so much before I speak, may result in both positive and negative posts. 
and btw.
I changed to a positive state of mind after some of the ICC adminsactually brought real news, then acting all bm'ed. So the reason I went more positive is quite obvious
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On December 09 2008 05:48 iCCup.Raelcun wrote: Can we drop the negativity as a whole here? Yes things got screwed up they might have been handled better but lets just say that the users responses could have been better too, flaming eachother for it until the server goes up does nothing. If you have something meaningful to contribute go ahead but if your post is going to contain swearwords, the word jesus christ, the words childish or other belittling terms why not consider leaving it? Really would just like to move past it so that people who are spending a lot of time trying to fix things don't need to keep coming back here to respond and therefore making things take longer. agree negative reactions will don't do no one no good ..
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"On December 09 2008 04:51 vanVidd wrote: I'm starting to not like ICCUP. I hate people that act so incredibly childish, and have no such thing as respect to them. It's just stupid, grow up ICCUP admins. cheese gg no re"
what did you expect? did you really think im going to throw out cookies milk and a warm handshake to ppl like you who post in such manner? i was bm some posts above and they reflected what i had to read.
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On December 09 2008 05:50 iCCup.Juppi wrote: its ok rael. i can understand that some ppl post just to get a nicer icon before their name even if its meaningless LOL
Yeah about as meaningless as your post. And this one here too
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On December 09 2008 06:00 iCCup.Juppi wrote: "On December 09 2008 04:51 vanVidd wrote: I'm starting to not like ICCUP. I hate people that act so incredibly childish, and have no such thing as respect to them. It's just stupid, grow up ICCUP admins. cheese gg no re"
what did you expect? did you really think im going to throw out cookies milk and a warm handshake to ppl like you who post in such manner? i was bm some posts above and they reflected what i had to read.
Yes, I regret that I said that now, after I got a little bit more information on who started it and what really happened. So, I'm sorry for being bm myself, I didn't have the whole story.
Just GL to iCCup!
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Juppi, protip: Just ignore these people.
Ideally, you'll make them think no admins have even read their posts, or at least care about what they wrote. When you respond, you legitimize them and end up in a flame war with some 13 year old kid who doesn't know anything.
I realise your work is under appreciated, and I'm sorry for that, but you're not making things easier on yourself by arguing with dolts. Take the high road or find yourself hating the job (in which case you should quit).
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