• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 07:10
CEST 13:10
KST 20:10
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10
Community News
Weekly Cups (October 5-11): Farewell to 5.0.160Rollback Netcode in Brood War845.0.17 Patch Notes - October 7, 202622Weekly Cups Results (Sep 28-Oct 4)0SC4ALL: II SC2 Complete Invited Player Lineup10
StarCraft 2
General
StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon Weekly Cups (October 5-11): Farewell to 5.0.16 5.0.17 Patch Notes - October 7, 2026 ESL Pro Tour for SC2 discontinued [Old] StarCraft 3 Reportedly in Development
Tourneys
Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier RSL 2026 Offline Finals LCQ Sign-Ups $3,500 WardiTV Not-Summer Championship ScienceCraft (October 24-25) - Live Event
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Sweltering Sands [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 547 Temple Of Terror Mutation # 546 Catch the Train Mutation # 545 And Drops and Rifts
Brood War
General
Sagi.gg Launcher Released BSL23 Confirmations Starts on New BSL Portal ASL22 General Discussion Visiting korea this week BW General Discussion
Tourneys
ASL 22 Finals [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL22] Semifinal A [ASL22] Semifinal B
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Replay Review Process - What do you do?
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Total Annihilation Zero
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25!
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread Artificial Intelligence Thread
Fan Clubs
Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
The Link Between Gaming and …
TrAiDoS
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
38 yo Retired SWE loo…
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
[meme] I finally understa…
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 12775 users

Power Rank Rank

Forum Index > BW General
Post a Reply
1 2 3 Next All
CDRdude
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States5625 Posts
November 09 2008 10:06 GMT
#1
      Throughout most of the Power Rank's history, we've had one of two PR writers; FakeSteve, or DJEtterStyle. Lately, we've had some different writers; In fact, we've changed PR writers each month ever since August (because apparently FakeSteve moved across the world. Slacker needs to learn how to multitask). This gulf in consistency leaves us with the critical question: Who is the best power rank writer? Which of our four power rank writers (two of which are one-time contractors) flames the players the hardest? Who makes the most controversial power ranks that cause fanboys to break down into tears?

[image loading]

FakeSteve: Mirror Mirror on the Wall, who's the best Power Rank writer of them all?


      Of course, rather than actually reading the comments section to the power rank or looking at player records, I decide to go do something only tangentially related (if at all) to actual accuracy or skill in writing power ranks. I looked at the number of comments each power rank received, and the total number of pageviews. Still ignoring the actual content of the power ranks and the quality of the comments therein, I bravely forged ahead for a good two minutes. Entering data into a spreadsheet like a good corporate drone, slaving away for the benefit of the queen CEO, so that the queen CEO can lay eggs and increase the size of her brood. Since I've brought up a relation between corporations and ant colonies, I should go ahead and warn you all about the soldier ants lawyers. If you let them bite you, they never let go, even after death. This is why lawyers have excellent dental plans.

      But I digress. After entering data into Excel for a minute or two, I decided to calculate something with my data. Unfortunately, I overlooked one critical fact: I was using Excel. Shit. After staring blankly at the Excel spreadsheet for a minute, I decided I should know what I wanted to calculate first. I decided on the ratio of posts to views. I wasn't sure what this statistic might actually mean, but of course that didn't stop me (Excel did). Eventually I rationalized it after the fact by saying that it could represent how controversial the power rank was: the higher the ratio of posting to viewing, the more people got butthurt over it. In other words, it could mean that more people posted without reading the thread. With my flimsy justification firmly in hand (and something else that was firm in my hand), I went to check if there was anything new in the TL blog section. No new blogs from crazie-penguin. Damn. Back to Excel again.

      Since you probably don't want to hear about my troubles with Excel, I'll leave out the details of how I failed to get it to work. Anyway, here's a graph that you can ignore.

[image loading]

You can ignore this text too. Nobody reads italicized text anyway


      If you look at the graph, you can see that there are two power ranks where more than one out of fifty viewers posted a comment. Using my contrived reasoning, this means that they were the two most controversial power ranks. The first one is this power rank, where FakeSteve put Manifesto7 at number 10 instead of Stork. I can only assume it was controversial because Mani's fans wanted him to be higher. The most controversial power rank overall was this one. In fact, it's probably even more 'controversial' by now, because I copied down the data like an hour ago, and more people have posted in it since then.

      So after making that graph, I carefully thought about it (checked the blog section again for anything interesting), and decided that it was a pretty worthless statistic, at least the way it was presented. But I put in this post anyway, just because I wanted to waste your time anyway. Anyway, I decided that a slightly less shitty statistic would be the average controversiness per power rank author. This required more work with excel.

      Putting on Wagner's "Ride of the Valkyries" for mood music, I set out to conquer excel. For maximum effect, sing this out loud while reading the sentence after this one: Dah da da daaaah dah da da daaaaaaah dah da da DAAAAAAAAH DAH DA DA DAAAAAAAAH. Using Excel, I averaged the data and made a graph. Behold:

[image loading]

Feel free to continue singing.


      This graph clearly shows that contrary to popular opinion, FakeSteve is actually not in the least bit divisive when writing power ranks. Even DeadVessel can write a more entertaining* power rank, and he can't even win a showmatch against gosugamers. At least we stripped him of his blue newswriter status. As soon as we finish altering certain records, it will appear that he never existed. And as we can see from the graph, none other than OneOther (I probably saw this pun somewhere else, because I'm not creative enough to come up with it myself) is the best at fostering controversy. And DJEtter obviously sucks. He may have invented the power rank in the first place and brought it to what is today, but nobody cares.

[image loading]
I contacted Savior and asked him what he thought about FakeSteve's power ranks. At least I think that's what I said. If you get picky about details, like 'words' and 'grammar', I don't technically speak korean. But this is probably related to power ranks.


      Okay, so maybe I'm not quite sure if Savior is thumbing down DeadVessel's showmatch performance or FakeSteve's power ranks or if he's sentencing a gladiator to death. Wait, nevermind. Only Boxer can do that last one, because he's the emperor. Gladiators and DeadVessel's miserable failure aside, there are other interesting statistics that you can fake from the power ranks.

      At the suggestion of IntoTheWow, (who probably makes shitty power ranks), I checked how the number of protoss on the power rank compared to how many comments. Because as we know, every comment on the power rank is a protoss tear.

[image loading]

1a2a3a says T_T


      As we can see, this graph is very linear. In fact, it's so linear that there are three vertical lines. This means that it's not just normally linear, but it's triple linear. Yes, this means that protoss players cry so much that they have redefined mathematics as we know it. However, in the interest of preserving my knowledge of mathematics, I am forced to change the subject. So with no apparent reason, I'll throw another graph with numbers and stuff. This one will be about the average number of views of each person's power rank. Popularity contest, go!

[image loading]

If you're still singing at this point, good job. You can stop now.


      As we can see, FakeSteve and OneOther have the most popular power ranks. Again, DJEtter is behind the others, and is left hoping that the cooler group of starcraft newswriters won't beat him up and steal his lunch money. An interesting coincidence is that the two most popular power rank writers also share the distinction of failing to get the first post in their own power rank for the Close but no cigar (CBNC) post. However, after his first CBNC failure, Fakesteve improved his APM and mechanics enough to get the first post. OneOther is sitting at a low of 0% of first posts succeeded. I bet he plays protoss.

      With the numbers backing me up, I can conclusively say (i.e. not prove) that OneOther is better at power ranks than anyone else. Ever. But we are left wondering if there could be another PR writer. A PR writer faster, stronger than any that came before. Again, I delved deep into the depths of Excel, making mathematical magic materialize. Remember that cheesy statistic, the number of posts divided by the number of views? If you had read carefully, you'll know that I manufactured a flimsy reason why it could possibly mean how controversial a post was. After hours of careful calculations, I came up with the most controversial power rank poster possible, and graphed it in comparison to the current PR posters:

[image loading]

The projected maximum possible ratio of posts to page views is the bar in red.


      I was searching for a power rank writer faster and stronger than any that came before. There is only one possibility: iNcontroL posing as IdrA. And stop singing Ride of the Valkyries now, it's creeping me out.

Special thanks to IntoTheWow for editing, help with Excel and pictures

Force staff is the best item in the game.
inlagdsil
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada957 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-09 23:13:29
November 09 2008 10:16 GMT
#2
Haha, all of that for "Incontrol posing as Idra". Do it! It will be hilarious.
EDIT I'm trying to see if you can turn the "protoss tears" graph into a 3D chart. As it is I can't even come up with a bullshit interpretation of the data! Could you send me the values you used and I will see if I can do anything until I finally have to admit that I am an excel noob.
EDIT2: here it is!

[image loading]

There is nothing cuter than a zergling when it has just started taking crack
Klive5ive
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom6056 Posts
November 09 2008 10:17 GMT
#3
Well done for making complete nonsense an entertaining read.
Don't hate the player - Hate the game
Not_Computer
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada2277 Posts
November 09 2008 10:22 GMT
#4
A very well written I don't get it post. *clap clap*
"Jaedong hyung better be ready. I'm going to order the most expensive dinner in Korea."
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
November 09 2008 10:27 GMT
#5
I don't really know what this is about, but I like the humor.
Brood War loyalist
Sudyn
Profile Joined May 2007
United States744 Posts
November 09 2008 11:43 GMT
#6
1a2a3a is not funny.
Gaetele banned?
DeadVessel
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
United States6269 Posts
November 09 2008 11:49 GMT
#7
lolol
clazziquai
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
6685 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-09 12:23:19
November 09 2008 12:23 GMT
#8
On November 09 2008 20:43 Sudyn wrote:
1a2a3a is not funny.


1a2a3a

ROFL

jk

lol this is a good read. even though not serious =x
#1 Sea.Really Fan / #1 Nesh Fan / Terran Forever~
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
November 09 2008 12:33 GMT
#9
[image loading]
WE NEED CJ JACKETS NAO
dats racist
Malongo
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Chile3479 Posts
November 09 2008 12:44 GMT
#10
"As we can see, this graph is very linear. In fact, it's so linear that there are three vertical lines."
nice work

Help me! im still improving my English. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. M. G.
ambit!ous1
Profile Joined September 2007
United States3662 Posts
November 09 2008 12:46 GMT
#11
DJEtterStyle.
Bisu[Shield] / ♔ SoYeon
economist_
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Vietnam719 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-09 12:57:30
November 09 2008 12:56 GMT
#12
On November 09 2008 19:17 Klive5ive wrote:
Well done for making complete nonsense an entertaining read.


and

+ Show Spoiler +
Pls dont give us any SC strategy advices, thanks
Economics forecast assumes everything, except responsibilities
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8093 Posts
November 09 2008 12:58 GMT
#13
lol, nice reaad very entertaining
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
Bifur
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Russian Federation1208 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-09 14:09:04
November 09 2008 13:50 GMT
#14
(P)Bisu is the 1st protoss ever who took the 1st spot in Power Rank
(P)Bisu is the 1st protoss ever who took the 1st spot in KeSPA Rank
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
November 09 2008 14:32 GMT
#15
bah, i thought this was the new powerrank T_T
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
[GiTM]-Ace
Profile Joined September 2002
United States4935 Posts
November 09 2008 15:08 GMT
#16
Yea inc as idra would be epic
I may not be the best player right now but I think I can beat any 'best' players. I'll beat all the best players and become the best player. Watch me. - Jju
DownMaxX
Profile Joined August 2008
Canada1311 Posts
November 09 2008 15:43 GMT
#17
Holy shit that was awesome.

You should also take into account how late the power rank is that specific month.
parasite
TarsTarkas
Profile Joined April 2007
United States169 Posts
November 09 2008 17:10 GMT
#18
On November 09 2008 22:50 Bifur wrote:
(P)Bisu is the 1st protoss ever who took the 1st spot in Power Rank
(P)Bisu is the 1st protoss ever who took the 1st spot in KeSPA Rank


I think (P)Anytime was actually the fist to take the top spot in the Power Rank.

This was a fabulously entertaining read, but you should have looked at the amount of time each power rank was up for - possibly divided your initial statistic by number of days. The recent power ranks have been up far past the start of each month, but I suppose they probably average monthly. Still, many of the views are probably from people checking if the new one is here yet.
Those who think they know everything, are very annoying to those of us who do. - Mark Twain
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-09 17:22:20
November 09 2008 17:21 GMT
#19
this agrees with my views:

in terms of least biased/most analytical PR:
1)DJetter (I miss his power ranks, they were so good)
2FakeSteve (good, but late as hell)
3)DV (not really biased at all, but I have to put you somewhere)
4)oneother (hi)
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21552 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-09 17:23:55
November 09 2008 17:23 GMT
#20
Can I rename this to "Power Rank Rank"?

edit: I'll take your offline status as an emphatic "Yes!"
Administrator
1 2 3 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
WardiTV Weekly
20:00
WardiTV Mondays #108
IntoTheiNu 298
WardiTV176
OGKoka 98
Rex53
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
OGKoka 98
Rex 53
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 35636
Rain 2100
Bisu 1320
Horang2 676
Jaedong 581
Stork 334
Hyuk 260
Mini 216
EffOrt 175
Zeus 172
[ Show more ]
Rush 167
Mong 79
hero 78
Hyun 68
Pusan 65
Yoon 63
Shinee 63
sorry 63
Snow 63
Light 39
PianO 32
Sharp 32
Noble 25
sSak 17
HiyA 15
Sacsri 12
Sea.KH 12
Dota 2
XcaliburYe395
Dendi30
syndereN10
League of Legends
JimRising 348
Reynor120
Counter-Strike
olofmeister1427
kRYSTAL_250
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King87
Other Games
dupreeh432
crisheroes382
B2W.Neo211
Pyrionflax210
Hui .172
BEARDiaguz5
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV242
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 9
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 69
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 12
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV634
League of Legends
• Jankos1639
Upcoming Events
PiGosaur Cup
12h 50m
Kung Fu Cup
23h 50m
The PondCast
1d 22h
Online Event
2 days
Korean StarCraft League
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Rush vs Soulkey
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
BSL Open Qualifier
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
IPSL
5 days
[ Show More ]
BSL Open Qualifier
5 days
WardiTV Weekly
5 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-10-12
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Copium Cup

Ongoing

ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
Acropolis #5
HCC Season 3
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSC
BSL Season 23
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.