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G5
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States2919 Posts
August 27 2008 19:46 GMT
#481
On August 28 2008 01:02 anotak wrote:
http://fighterreplays.com/starcraft/replays/9c858f
i suspect that G5 saw this rep


nope

its just how i play andromeda
Zidane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States1689 Posts
August 27 2008 20:50 GMT
#482
someone start a SUPER DANIEL tribute thread.
moebius_string
Profile Joined December 2007
United States264 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-08-27 22:35:38
August 27 2008 22:33 GMT
#483
I'm hearing an increasing amount of people stating that Artosis is agreeing to much with Daniel Lee. I think some of this is a bit unavoidable given the fact that Daniel Lee just knows more and has a very strong personality. Despite this I often wonder why some people prefer to hear two people argue and disagree over rubbish rather than agree. Every show you watch you have people disagreeing over some contrived rubbish. It's like the producers know people like conflict and tell the commentators to create some kind of "The View" like dynamic simply because it's in vogue.

Perhaps Artosis should talk with Daniel about the fact that he agrees to much with him, and decide they want to develop some kind of Siskel & Ebert dynamic where both will adopt diametrically opposed inane positions simply for the sake of discourse and ratings.

Artosis could also take a page from the gymnastics caster trio of Tim Daggett, Elfi Schlegel, and Al Trautwig. Tim and Elfi are past pros, while Al plays the outsider depending on Tim's and Elfi's often flawed commentary for guidance, while dealing with the personal stories of the gymnasts lives.

Hell, seems people can't appreciate a good thing, and prefer to listen to a sexy voice, totally biased, and inaccurate commentary, like we already have in droves on some websites.
FBH is insurance.
Peter[Deuce]
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States93 Posts
August 27 2008 22:48 GMT
#484
What is there for Artosis to disagree with? Things like I would like to see Machine get bunkered rush twice could be something to disagree with but with strategical comments, Daniel Lee is spot on correct.
CTStalker
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Canada9720 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-08-27 22:57:38
August 27 2008 22:52 GMT
#485
well at least Daniel lee is as entertaining and informative as ever... too bad the games were terribly one-sided. really, really bad. i mean, how many more of these is daniel lee going to want to do if the game is over every time by 10 minutes? i know he don't expect the foreigners to win a majority of the games, or even any of them, but i really hope that more people other than strelok show a good game.

edit: one thing that i thought, and i'm sure that this has occurred to you and daniel lee as well, artosis, is this: if you two have already watched the game or replay before making this vod, for the sake of viewer interest, maybe you should consider only commentating on and providing the games that are good or close. i know that means you and daniel lee will probably have to sift through a lot more games, and that getting pros to take time off their schedules to play isn't easy, but i'd really love to see daniel lee comment on a foreigner's play in a close game, rather than listen to his, admittedly good-natured, sarcasm about the level of play. i'll still keep watching even if every vod is a 10-minute rape, but, like everyone, i'm hoping for a great game.
By the way, my name is Funk. I am not of your world
InfeSteD
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States4658 Posts
August 27 2008 22:56 GMT
#486
I think Midian mutas are so good.. I once played with him and he raped me like 5 times with perfect timing on 3 hatch Muta.. he had perfect micro imo T_T
w/e
Quanticfograw
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States2053 Posts
August 27 2008 23:08 GMT
#487
Attackofthezerg i actually was praising people earlier but I thoght g5's performance both games was pretty sad... i have only watched the protoss games so far but pretty sure he played the worst out of all of the protoss. Even jf losing in 11 minutes had some excellent reaver micro on the ramp vs kal, i didnt see anything remotely like a positive in g5's play. i just posted that cause i feel bad, i think those two showings might of ruined a chance he had to maybe get a test for a pro team. but attackofthezerg ill be sure to consult you before i state my own fucking opinons in an open forum? does that sound ok to you stalin?
https://twitter.com/quanticfograw
avilo
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States4100 Posts
August 27 2008 23:48 GMT
#488
On August 28 2008 07:33 moebius_string wrote:
I'm hearing an increasing amount of people stating that Artosis is agreeing to much with Daniel Lee. I think some of this is a bit unavoidable given the fact that Daniel Lee just knows more and has a very strong personality. Despite this I often wonder why some people prefer to hear two people argue and disagree over rubbish rather than agree. Every show you watch you have people disagreeing over some contrived rubbish. It's like the producers know people like conflict and tell the commentators to create some kind of "The View" like dynamic simply because it's in vogue.

Perhaps Artosis should talk with Daniel about the fact that he agrees to much with him, and decide they want to develop some kind of Siskel & Ebert dynamic where both will adopt diametrically opposed inane positions simply for the sake of discourse and ratings.

Artosis could also take a page from the gymnastics caster trio of Tim Daggett, Elfi Schlegel, and Al Trautwig. Tim and Elfi are past pros, while Al plays the outsider depending on Tim's and Elfi's often flawed commentary for guidance, while dealing with the personal stories of the gymnasts lives.

Hell, seems people can't appreciate a good thing, and prefer to listen to a sexy voice, totally biased, and inaccurate commentary, like we already have in droves on some websites.


qft, what's the point of randomly disagreeing just for the sake of disagreeing? The commentary is very good all around tbh, and Daniel Lee gives awesome insights into the South Korean scene.
Sup
Tropics
Profile Joined August 2007
United Kingdom1132 Posts
August 27 2008 23:53 GMT
#489
On August 28 2008 07:33 moebius_string wrote:
I'm hearing an increasing amount of people stating that Artosis is agreeing to much with Daniel Lee. I think some of this is a bit unavoidable given the fact that Daniel Lee just knows more and has a very strong personality. Despite this I often wonder why some people prefer to hear two people argue and disagree over rubbish rather than agree. Every show you watch you have people disagreeing over some contrived rubbish. It's like the producers know people like conflict and tell the commentators to create some kind of "The View" like dynamic simply because it's in vogue.

Perhaps Artosis should talk with Daniel about the fact that he agrees to much with him, and decide they want to develop some kind of Siskel & Ebert dynamic where both will adopt diametrically opposed inane positions simply for the sake of discourse and ratings.

Artosis could also take a page from the gymnastics caster trio of Tim Daggett, Elfi Schlegel, and Al Trautwig. Tim and Elfi are past pros, while Al plays the outsider depending on Tim's and Elfi's often flawed commentary for guidance, while dealing with the personal stories of the gymnasts lives.

Hell, seems people can't appreciate a good thing, and prefer to listen to a sexy voice, totally biased, and inaccurate commentary, like we already have in droves on some websites.


For me, personally, it's not the fact that he agrees. It's the fact he always says something needless like "I gotta agree with you there" or "Yeah, you're absolutely right about that". And I don't think it's a big enough thing to drag the commentary down.
Purind
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Canada3562 Posts
August 28 2008 00:58 GMT
#490
On August 28 2008 08:53 Tropics wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2008 07:33 moebius_string wrote:
I'm hearing an increasing amount of people stating that Artosis is agreeing to much with Daniel Lee. I think some of this is a bit unavoidable given the fact that Daniel Lee just knows more and has a very strong personality. Despite this I often wonder why some people prefer to hear two people argue and disagree over rubbish rather than agree. Every show you watch you have people disagreeing over some contrived rubbish. It's like the producers know people like conflict and tell the commentators to create some kind of "The View" like dynamic simply because it's in vogue.

Perhaps Artosis should talk with Daniel about the fact that he agrees to much with him, and decide they want to develop some kind of Siskel & Ebert dynamic where both will adopt diametrically opposed inane positions simply for the sake of discourse and ratings.

Artosis could also take a page from the gymnastics caster trio of Tim Daggett, Elfi Schlegel, and Al Trautwig. Tim and Elfi are past pros, while Al plays the outsider depending on Tim's and Elfi's often flawed commentary for guidance, while dealing with the personal stories of the gymnasts lives.

Hell, seems people can't appreciate a good thing, and prefer to listen to a sexy voice, totally biased, and inaccurate commentary, like we already have in droves on some websites.


For me, personally, it's not the fact that he agrees. It's the fact he always says something needless like "I gotta agree with you there" or "Yeah, you're absolutely right about that". And I don't think it's a big enough thing to drag the commentary down.


Absolutely, gotta agree with you there
Trucy Wright is hot
Cham
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
797 Posts
August 28 2008 01:00 GMT
#491
I think Artosis is doing a great job, but he just isn't as captivating as Tasteless or Daniel Lee. I like a commentator that can make me laugh as well as enhance the viewing of the game. His technical knowledge is very high though, and I enjoy listening.
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
August 28 2008 01:05 GMT
#492
wicked, thanks
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
aTnClouD
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Italy2428 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-08-28 01:14:00
August 28 2008 01:09 GMT
#493
On August 28 2008 10:00 Cham wrote:
I think Artosis is doing a great job, but he just isn't as captivating as Tasteless or Daniel Lee. I like a commentator that can make me laugh as well as enhance the viewing of the game. His technical knowledge is very high though, and I enjoy listening.

I think it's better for every commentator to have its own role and style. By the way I'd rather prefer a commentator that focuses all the time on the strategy and the players than one who jokes too much. I'm not too much of a fan of jokes though, and when I'm watching Starcraft I just like to focus on the indepth of the game rather than hearing a semi-fun almost obvious joke on the units.
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blabber
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4448 Posts
August 28 2008 01:36 GMT
#494
On August 28 2008 10:09 iG.ClouD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2008 10:00 Cham wrote:
I think Artosis is doing a great job, but he just isn't as captivating as Tasteless or Daniel Lee. I like a commentator that can make me laugh as well as enhance the viewing of the game. His technical knowledge is very high though, and I enjoy listening.

I think it's better for every commentator to have its own role and style. By the way I'd rather prefer a commentator that focuses all the time on the strategy and the players than one who jokes too much. I'm not too much of a fan of jokes though, and when I'm watching Starcraft I just like to focus on the indepth of the game rather than hearing a semi-fun almost obvious joke on the units.

I would find that rather boring... I guess it's just whatever floats one's boat...
blabberrrrr
Zidane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States1689 Posts
August 28 2008 01:46 GMT
#495
I think it's pretty obvious that Artosis is showing respect to SUPERDAN in the commentaries and that is fine with me. Respect your elders.
Phyre
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States1288 Posts
August 28 2008 01:48 GMT
#496
On August 28 2008 10:09 iG.ClouD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2008 10:00 Cham wrote:
I think Artosis is doing a great job, but he just isn't as captivating as Tasteless or Daniel Lee. I like a commentator that can make me laugh as well as enhance the viewing of the game. His technical knowledge is very high though, and I enjoy listening.

I think it's better for every commentator to have its own role and style. By the way I'd rather prefer a commentator that focuses all the time on the strategy and the players than one who jokes too much. I'm not too much of a fan of jokes though, and when I'm watching Starcraft I just like to focus on the indepth of the game rather than hearing a semi-fun almost obvious joke on the units.

Agreed. I'm watching these vods to see if I can pick up tips and tricks from Artosis and Daniel Lee first and entertainment second.
"Oh no, I got you with your pants... on your face... That's not how you wear pants." - Nintu, catching 1 hatch lurks.
Superiorwolf
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States5509 Posts
August 28 2008 02:11 GMT
#497
Hmm, I never said that D+ players were better than foreigners... I said that I know some D's / D+'s with better muta micro from what I've seen from these top foreigners, with the exceptions of a few. Although I have a small sample size, I've been kind of disgusted by the mutalisk micro seen by the foreigners. Of course you are right about less holes that the Koreans leave open - but you still should not be running 9 mutas into marines attack move and losing 5 of them before realizing you have to move them...
Check out my stream at www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=315053 and follow me on Twitter @EGSuppy! :)
CTStalker
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Canada9720 Posts
August 28 2008 02:36 GMT
#498
i imagine it was just a mistake, probably caused by nerves. im pretty sure machine has better muta micro than that, especially since a few of the top americans have mentioned that his zvt is supposedly among the best in the states right now
By the way, my name is Funk. I am not of your world
Superiorwolf
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States5509 Posts
August 28 2008 02:38 GMT
#499
Mmm good point, yah it makes you jittery to play players so renowned heh ;o
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Pads
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
England3228 Posts
August 28 2008 02:48 GMT
#500
Also you have to take into consideration a korean progamers micro is so much more crisp and precise and terran's have practise all day long vs zerg's with totally sick muta control.
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