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pachi
Profile Joined October 2006
Melbourne5338 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-08-22 15:54:58
August 13 2008 09:16 GMT
#1
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Source: fomos.kr / Nicknames from ygosu

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eSTRO
[image loading] Neo.G_Flying (신재욱)
[image loading] HistOry[gm] (이승민)
[image loading] InteR.Attain (이정민)

(Hanbit) Stars
[image loading] MasIo (송만호)
[image loading] Neo.G_Soulkey (김민철)
[image loading] fire (조강석)

CJ Entus
(T)BByong[Kal] (정우용)
[image loading] MIsO_Lt (한두열)

MBCGame HERO
[image loading] tiny[S.G] (오세기)
(T)Sea.RumOr (배한진)
[image loading] CoRea[Shield] (장기훈)

WeMade FOX
[image loading] NsP_FATE (서신우)
[image loading] YeHoon (이예훈)
[image loading] Nice[S.G] (김승연)

Lecaf Oz
[image loading] Link[3.33] (김민혁)
[image loading] Push[gm] (홍성인)
[image loading] ZergStyLe[gm] (권기범)김민혁

KTF MagicNs
[image loading] KaZe_KoreA (신승철)
PASS
[image loading] Fresh[WaF] (박현모)
[image loading] HOn_wakE (박관태)

STX SouL
[image loading] Sasin)Kal (이신형)
[image loading] Last[fOu] (김성현)

SK Telecom T1
[image loading] Dream.t)1988 (문성원)
[image loading] KT.MGW)Sweetly (김강빈)
[image loading] Haedori[name] (김해영)
[image loading] By.trOt (박성진)

OGN SPARKYZ
[image loading] Gosi[Desire] (국정근)
PASS
[image loading] Dream.t)Snake (오효범)
[image loading] SaSin)Lake (유현근)

Samsung KHAN
[image loading] 1[shield] (신승호)
(P)Dream.t)M18M (손석희)
[image loading] SaSin)Firebat (최은창)
[image loading] sasin)classic (조병조)
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Texas
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Germany2388 Posts
August 13 2008 09:57 GMT
#2
1988 to skt1; wow nice. good luck
Elsi
Profile Joined October 2002
United Kingdom8173 Posts
August 13 2008 10:01 GMT
#3
Thought Samsung Khan drafted in Dream.t)M18M too?
pachi
Profile Joined October 2006
Melbourne5338 Posts
August 13 2008 10:02 GMT
#4
On August 13 2008 19:01 Elsi wrote:
Thought Samsung Khan drafted in Dream.t)M18M too?


I spelt his name wrong
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Superiorwolf
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States5509 Posts
August 13 2008 10:06 GMT
#5
WeMade 3 Zergs? Nice! There's so many more Protoss and Terran than Zerg though... T_T I bet it's the new seasons' maps making people see bad Zerg results from the amateur progamers and not picking them.
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keit
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
1584 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-08-13 10:17:08
August 13 2008 10:16 GMT
#6
Graphics
pachi
Profile Joined October 2006
Melbourne5338 Posts
August 13 2008 10:45 GMT
#7
all AKAs found. hopefully they are correct.
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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
August 13 2008 11:00 GMT
#8
BByong next bonjwa
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
August 13 2008 11:01 GMT
#9
lol wemade took all zergs o_O ? i guess they dont have a realy strong zerg player anyway.. .not that i know of at least. last wemade zerg was liek .. silver or something lol.
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Titusmaster6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5937 Posts
August 13 2008 11:09 GMT
#10
CJ needed a toss imo. Why did they only take two players anyone know?
Shorts down shorts up, BOOM, just like that.
DhakhaR
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United Kingdom721 Posts
August 13 2008 11:23 GMT
#11
is it just me or do new players have really BAD names.
Nice
ZergStyle
corea and korea
another Kal
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Firebat

sigh.
wwooaa
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Croatia179 Posts
August 13 2008 11:29 GMT
#12
woohooo push[gm] in Lecaf yay and Zergstyle[gm], the one who knocked IdrA out of Courage and won the whle group
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pachi
Profile Joined October 2006
Melbourne5338 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-08-13 11:57:30
August 13 2008 11:57 GMT
#13
On August 13 2008 20:09 Titusmaster6 wrote:
CJ needed a toss imo. Why did they only take two players anyone know?


In major leagues CJ has (P)Much[gm] and (P)Nbs[gm]
In minor leagues CJ has (P)By.Probe / (P)By.Movie.

Recently added to their active roster was (P)Choya, (P)Wolf, (P)Fire
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Kuja900
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3564 Posts
August 13 2008 12:09 GMT
#14
lol at wemade hogging all the zergs, they do need a good zerg tho
OMG you nasty gurl
HaXxorIzed
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Australia8434 Posts
August 13 2008 12:32 GMT
#15
And here I was thinking 1988's main was P.
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Titusmaster6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5937 Posts
August 13 2008 12:45 GMT
#16
On August 13 2008 20:57 pachi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2008 20:09 Titusmaster6 wrote:
CJ needed a toss imo. Why did they only take two players anyone know?


In major leagues CJ has (P)Much[gm] and (P)Nbs[gm]
In minor leagues CJ has (P)By.Probe / (P)By.Movie.

Recently added to their active roster was (P)Choya, (P)Wolf, (P)Fire


lol I didn't know that.
Shorts down shorts up, BOOM, just like that.
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
August 13 2008 13:00 GMT
#17
sweeeet Lecaf got zergstyle[gm]
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17726 Posts
August 13 2008 13:05 GMT
#18
On August 13 2008 20:00 zulu_nation8 wrote:
BByong next bonjwa

jaedong next bonjwa
lomo next bonjwa
forgg next bonjwa ^^

I thought Neo.G_Soulkey was zerg
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
August 13 2008 13:14 GMT
#19
how exactly does this draft work... it seems like both players and teams have a say in who gets picked where, either that or teams simply dont go near players like M18M who are clearly already samsung affiliates even if their "draft order" would allow them to poach.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
August 13 2008 13:51 GMT
#20
soulkey is zerg yea, very good zerg.
pachi
Profile Joined October 2006
Melbourne5338 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-08-13 13:57:17
August 13 2008 13:53 GMT
#21
that was a zerg. oops colors are hard.
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NewFace15
Profile Joined May 2008
Russian Federation41 Posts
August 13 2008 14:04 GMT
#22
Neo.G_Soulkey super zerg!
asel
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Germany1599 Posts
August 13 2008 14:31 GMT
#23
HistOry to eSTRO nice!
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
August 13 2008 14:40 GMT
#24
On August 13 2008 22:14 thedeadhaji wrote:
how exactly does this draft work... it seems like both players and teams have a say in who gets picked where, either that or teams simply dont go near players like M18M who are clearly already samsung affiliates even if their "draft order" would allow them to poach.
The draft is pretty much worked out before hand teams have already decided who they are going to pick and the other teams know this and obviously don't get those player.
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SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
August 13 2008 15:09 GMT
#25
I like WeMade's choice of all Z rookie picks.
I really dislike SKT1's T/P picks only.

COOL
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RoC)Ninjah
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States238 Posts
August 13 2008 15:14 GMT
#26
I saw soul key play, I was VERY impressed. I've heard of most of the others but only seen a few play. best of luck to them!
Much will win a title before his hair turns grey.
PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
August 13 2008 15:55 GMT
#27
Does SKT1 have any strong Z players? As far as I know, they're all rather mediocre... -____-;;
Hello
pachi
Profile Joined October 2006
Melbourne5338 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-08-22 01:32:33
August 22 2008 01:31 GMT
#28
Source: Newly registering progamers.

Recommended Players

Lecaf Oz
[image loading] NeeL[fOu](강동현)

CJ Entus
[image loading] By.Snow(장윤철)

eSTRO
[image loading] ???(이재영)
[image loading] ???(Greg Fields)

SK Telecom T1
[image loading] NsP_yeOngJae(정영재)
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RaGe
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Belgium9947 Posts
August 22 2008 01:34 GMT
#29
On August 22 2008 10:31 pachi wrote:
Source: Newly registering progamers.

Recommended Players

Lecaf Oz
[image loading] NeeL[fOu](강동현)

CJ Entus
[image loading] By.Snow(장윤철)

eSTRO
[image loading] ???(이재영)
[image loading] ???(Greg Fields)

SK Telecom T1
[image loading] NsP_yeOngJae(정영재)

is this the thing where a team can select players that dont have to pass courage to get a license?
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il0seonpurpose
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5638 Posts
August 22 2008 01:39 GMT
#30
How big are the teams houses to fit so many ppl??
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
August 22 2008 01:40 GMT
#31
Go Idra!
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pachi
Profile Joined October 2006
Melbourne5338 Posts
August 22 2008 01:41 GMT
#32
On August 22 2008 10:34 RaGe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2008 10:31 pachi wrote:
Source: Newly registering progamers.

Recommended Players

Lecaf Oz
[image loading] NeeL[fOu](강동현)

CJ Entus
[image loading] By.Snow(장윤철)

eSTRO
[image loading] ???(이재영)
[image loading] ???(Greg Fields)

SK Telecom T1
[image loading] NsP_yeOngJae(정영재)

is this the thing where a team can select players that dont have to pass courage to get a license?


I think so. By.Snow recently played for CJ in the GOMTV thing, while thats not kespa sanctioned, no one else was playing random amateurs. So i'd assume hes pro.
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AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7454 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-08-22 02:41:48
August 22 2008 02:20 GMT
#33
On August 22 2008 10:34 RaGe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2008 10:31 pachi wrote:

is this the thing where a team can select players that dont have to pass courage to get a license?



Somebody tell me if this is true!
DanceCommander
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1808 Posts
August 22 2008 02:22 GMT
#34
woa zergstyle gets into lecaf nice ^^
alpskomleko
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Slovenia950 Posts
August 22 2008 04:31 GMT
#35
Even though it's amazing news, does Idra really want a free ticket into the cutthroat world of progaming? I think he owes it to himself, at least, to pass courage and prove a point to all gainsayers.
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Seraphim
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States4467 Posts
August 22 2008 04:54 GMT
#36
Dream.t)1988 is so good - can't wait to see him make it big
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Ancestral
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3230 Posts
August 22 2008 04:57 GMT
#37
On August 22 2008 13:31 alpskomleko wrote:
Even though it's amazing news, does Idra really want a free ticket into the cutthroat world of progaming? I think he owes it to himself, at least, to pass courage and prove a point to all gainsayers.

Not only that, I think he won't have any trouble doing it. Although, I guess if he get's a freebie that's ok too. He seems like the kind of person who will do whatever it takes whatever the circumstances - perfect for a progamer. I can't wait to see him in a Korean league!
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yrag89
Profile Joined July 2008
Malaysia315 Posts
August 22 2008 05:10 GMT
#38
Why so many names with Sea......
secondly morrow is a korean pro who plays terran what the hell did you expect lol - charlie420247
plaszczka
Profile Joined August 2007
Poland376 Posts
August 22 2008 05:17 GMT
#39
could someone confirm that IdrA is chosen by eSTRO to become a progamer WITHOUT need of passing licence?
I apologize for all my english mistakes. I used to write really good senteces in this lenguage, but nowadays, i smoke too much weed and drink too much vodka. So you must forgive me :)
thunk
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States6233 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-08-22 05:26:46
August 22 2008 05:24 GMT
#40
Haha, WeMade almost drafted more zergs than all the other teams put together.

On August 22 2008 14:10 yrag89 wrote:
Why so many names with Sea......


Because it's a clan. There's a running joke that you need 400+ apm terran to join.

Congrats to Idra then, if he gets his progaming license without courage. I hope to see him in the GOMTV league at least.
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Ancestral
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3230 Posts
August 22 2008 05:34 GMT
#41
Why are only four teams doing this though? What circumstances would make a proteam want to do this? Players are drafted usually right, so how is Idra even assured of getting on eSTRO if he passes courage? Would they just have to draft him? Or when a team does this does it choose players to become pro and join it's own team? I don't really understand the process of becoming a progamer
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pachi
Profile Joined October 2006
Melbourne5338 Posts
August 22 2008 06:01 GMT
#42
On August 22 2008 14:34 Ancestral wrote:
Why are only four teams doing this though? What circumstances would make a proteam want to do this? Players are drafted usually right, so how is Idra even assured of getting on eSTRO if he passes courage? Would they just have to draft him? Or when a team does this does it choose players to become pro and join it's own team? I don't really understand the process of becoming a progamer


Being a progamer gets some kind of tax cut in korea i think. I think if they actually give someone their progamer license they're entitled to pay them.
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ScarFace
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1175 Posts
August 22 2008 06:13 GMT
#43
I don't really get it either, but hot damn, if Idra becomes a sanctioned pro without going through courage, thats a testament to his ability eh? Estro saw how far he went, said damn he is good, I'm not risking he just barely miss out on passing courage again, and decide to snap him up- hopefully.
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fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
August 22 2008 06:21 GMT
#44
On August 22 2008 15:13 ScarFace wrote:
I don't really get it either, but hot damn, if Idra becomes a sanctioned pro without going through courage, thats a testament to his ability eh? Estro saw how far he went, said damn he is good, I'm not risking he just barely miss out on passing courage again, and decide to snap him up- hopefully.

IIRC, its pretty much exactly the same timing they gave to draco lol
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Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17726 Posts
August 22 2008 06:27 GMT
#45
On August 22 2008 14:17 plaszczka wrote:
could someone confirm that IdrA is chosen by eSTRO to become a progamer WITHOUT need of passing licence?

on the link hes included
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plaszczka
Profile Joined August 2007
Poland376 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-08-22 06:48:47
August 22 2008 06:48 GMT
#46
On August 22 2008 15:13 ScarFace wrote:
I don't really get it either, but hot damn, if Idra becomes a sanctioned pro without going through courage, thats a testament to his ability eh? Estro saw how far he went, said damn he is good, I'm not risking he just barely miss out on passing courage again, and decide to snap him up- hopefully.


well, i know only one thing - being and training in korea for 4-5 months for sure isn't enough to play like a progamer - no chance. doesn't matter if estro believes or not in his skill. i saw his last two matches in spirit tournament - it wasn't even semi-pro (but i know - he might have a bad day). i hope we'll be fine there and we'll soon see other players in seul, but difference between idra's style and for example - bbyong style - is quite big <---- same, as the difference between estro and samsung khan. being a good player for first team doeasn't mean he would be so good in second team opinion)

sorry for my english, but i use it for the first time since 2006 ^^
I apologize for all my english mistakes. I used to write really good senteces in this lenguage, but nowadays, i smoke too much weed and drink too much vodka. So you must forgive me :)
ScarFace
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1175 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-08-22 07:32:11
August 22 2008 07:17 GMT
#47
On August 22 2008 15:48 plaszczka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2008 15:13 ScarFace wrote:
I don't really get it either, but hot damn, if Idra becomes a sanctioned pro without going through courage, thats a testament to his ability eh? Estro saw how far he went, said damn he is good, I'm not risking he just barely miss out on passing courage again, and decide to snap him up- hopefully.


well, i know only one thing - being and training in korea for 4-5 months for sure isn't enough to play like a progamer - no chance. doesn't matter if estro believes or not in his skill. i saw his last two matches in spirit tournament - it wasn't even semi-pro (but i know - he might have a bad day). i hope we'll be fine there and we'll soon see other players in seul, but difference between idra's style and for example - bbyong style - is quite big <---- same, as the difference between estro and samsung khan. being a good player for first team doeasn't mean he would be so good in second team opinion)

sorry for my english, but i use it for the first time since 2006 ^^
To be honest I do agree with this, Idra's macro seems to be far lower than it should be. But, well, a lot of people get their lisence, get on to a team, and then don't play for a long, long time. Idra will make a lot of development in his career, but I don't think we will be seeing him on Proleague anytime soon, at least not frequently. Who knows though, he may just be one of those people who learn quickly. Hopefully!

By the way, your english is fine.
Can you dig it?
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
August 22 2008 07:28 GMT
#48
On August 22 2008 16:17 ScarFace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2008 15:48 plaszczka wrote:
On August 22 2008 15:13 ScarFace wrote:
I don't really get it either, but hot damn, if Idra becomes a sanctioned pro without going through courage, thats a testament to his ability eh? Estro saw how far he went, said damn he is good, I'm not risking he just barely miss out on passing courage again, and decide to snap him up- hopefully.


well, i know only one thing - being and training in korea for 4-5 months for sure isn't enough to play like a progamer - no chance. doesn't matter if estro believes or not in his skill. i saw his last two matches in spirit tournament - it wasn't even semi-pro (but i know - he might have a bad day). i hope we'll be fine there and we'll soon see other players in seul, but difference between idra's style and for example - bbyong style - is quite big <---- same, as the difference between estro and samsung khan. being a good player for first team doeasn't mean he would be so good in second team opinion)

sorry for my english, but i use it for the first time since 2006 ^^
To be honest I do agree with this, Idra's macro seems to be far far far lower than it should be. But, well, a lot of people get their lisence, get on to a team, and then don't play for a long, long time. Idra will make a lot of development in his career, but I don't think we will be seeing him on Proleague anytime soon, at least not frequently. Who knows though, he may just be one of those people who learn quickly. Hopefully!

By the way, your english is fine.


Well daniel lee did say idra was expecting a day off so maybe he just wasnt playing to his best that day..
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clazziquai
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
6685 Posts
August 22 2008 07:32 GMT
#49
OMG Nice Push[gm] to Lecaf - I've loved him since I first saw his replay long time ago 6^Z^
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