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New 3v3 BGH Ladder (and more) on ShieldBattery! - Page 2

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Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12261 Posts
August 25 2026 14:31 GMT
#21
On August 25 2026 13:12 tankgirl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2026 03:06 TT1 wrote:
few pics of some of the new settings ...


Thanks for sharing these pics, they really help elevate how awesome this release is

Any chance someone can share a screenshot of the new /netstat display ingame?

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Revamped Netcode:
ShieldBattery now supports lower latency than Battle.net for matches that can handle it


Im curious about this. IIRC the game naturally always has a 2 turn buffer? If SB is able to lower this buffer to 1 turn (where possible), does this mean the SB netcode has an even shorter turn buffer than playing on LAN?



The ultimate goal will be a 0-turn buffer. Theoretically it should be doable, it's just a more intermediate-term goal.
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ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States499 Posts
August 25 2026 18:50 GMT
#22
hows the ping situation, if say i'm trying to use this while living in asia?
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10095 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-08-25 22:11:51
August 25 2026 19:28 GMT
#23
right now theres a small bug with the latency (devs already fixed it afaik but they didnt release the update yet), it'll be noticeable in 1v1 and 2v2 games but for bgh the ping is still much better than on bnet (overall the ping is always better on sb than bnet, especially for eu/na/latam)

thats for games outside of asia tho, depending on where you live the lat is probably gonna be much better for SE asia etc. on bnet vs kors

trade off is theres no ladder team games so youre just playing pub games, depends on what u want, u can try it out and see if the lat is playable enough but it could be hard if you're in Asia playing vs Latam/EU/NA etc.

thats just info based on my 1st hand experience of playing games vs ppl from diff regions, i dunno the routing/server details tho (gotta ask main devs), btw if you wanna sync up with other ppl to find solo q bgh games quicker join channel #TheBGH on SB
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
lamiy1029
Profile Joined August 2026
2 Posts
August 26 2026 02:40 GMT
#24
Why does SB only have the BGH map? It could follow the model of the KK Battle Platform, offering a map pool consisting of BGH, NEO and New Super. Players can ban up to two maps, allowing them to pick the maps they prefer to play.
Navane
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Netherlands2762 Posts
August 26 2026 11:15 GMT
#25
I dont think the super fast moving of the middlemouse button was a bug, it just moves at the speed your screen would move if you drag in the minimap.

When you MMB drag the screen while looking at the minimap it makes a lot of sense. It just saves you from having to move the mouse to the minimap and back, but the drag speed is the same.
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12261 Posts
August 26 2026 16:18 GMT
#26
On August 26 2026 20:15 Navane wrote:
I dont think the super fast moving of the middlemouse button was a bug, it just moves at the speed your screen would move if you drag in the minimap.

When you MMB drag the screen while looking at the minimap it makes a lot of sense. It just saves you from having to move the mouse to the minimap and back, but the drag speed is the same.


It was perhaps not technically a bug but just a poor implementation because the middle mouse drag speed was scaling with your screen resolution as well as the map size.
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castleeMg
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Canada791 Posts
August 26 2026 16:46 GMT
#27
I think everything about the update looks great but the problem is lack of players and a lack of advertising of the server. I feel like only a handful of players even know that shieldbattery exists. Have you ever considered putting a couple chat bots in the default channels on each server like “brood war Eng-1” to advertise shieldbattery? The only way the server gets any advertisement is on TL or through word of mouth and if no one is really playing on it then the word of mouth aspect is quite non existent as well. Just my thoughts
AKA: castle[eMg]@USEast/ iCCup
tec27
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States3720 Posts
August 26 2026 20:57 GMT
#28
On August 26 2026 20:15 Navane wrote:
I dont think the super fast moving of the middlemouse button was a bug, it just moves at the speed your screen would move if you drag in the minimap.

When you MMB drag the screen while looking at the minimap it makes a lot of sense. It just saves you from having to move the mouse to the minimap and back, but the drag speed is the same.

It was definitely working as implemented, yes I just don't think the implementation was actually very useful or intuitive in practice, and people expect to be able to adjust the sensitivity of it. In building a better version of it, we've also made some other adjustments to it that I think make it feel better (e.g. now when you drag pan, it will keep your mouse in the same location before/after instead of moving it with the drag). If you do want the old behavior you can simply toggle the new implementation off in settings.

On August 27 2026 01:46 castleeMg wrote:
I think everything about the update looks great but the problem is lack of players and a lack of advertising of the server. I feel like only a handful of players even know that shieldbattery exists. Have you ever considered putting a couple chat bots in the default channels on each server like “brood war Eng-1” to advertise shieldbattery? The only way the server gets any advertisement is on TL or through word of mouth and if no one is really playing on it then the word of mouth aspect is quite non existent as well. Just my thoughts

Yes, but we also want to be good stewards of the community and not spam people with things they don't want

We do have plans/thoughts about more things we can do, I just also want to make sure things are in a good state before we push a lot of new people to try it. This particular update still needs at least one round of fixes before I'd feel comfortable pushing for that (these are basically done now, so we'll likely get them out today).
Can you jam with the console cowboys in cyberspace?
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States499 Posts
August 27 2026 02:53 GMT
#29
so is this a global match making? let's say I use gearUP vpn to reduce my ping, does that work?
tec27
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States3720 Posts
August 27 2026 03:17 GMT
#30
On August 27 2026 11:53 ProTech wrote:
so is this a global match making? let's say I use gearUP vpn to reduce my ping, does that work?

It is global matchmaking, yes (with some prioritization for lower latency games). We have our own global network to reduce ping, so using a VPN will likely be strictly worse and is not recommended (especially if the VPN endpoint is far from your actual location)
Can you jam with the console cowboys in cyberspace?
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10095 Posts
August 27 2026 19:31 GMT
#31
looks like lat fix patch got released
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
felleN
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia105 Posts
August 28 2026 12:30 GMT
#32
This looks awesome! will definitely be trying the BGH ladder out
"I am fucking godly at, like, fucking god. AHHHH" -combatEX
Scarlett`
Profile Joined April 2011
Korea (South)2444 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-08-28 21:34:47
August 28 2026 21:34 GMT
#33
Can we get a slider for the drag scroll speed (thats higher than the max now) and reverse direction option on it since its fixed
Progamer一条咸鱼
tec27
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States3720 Posts
August 29 2026 19:22 GMT
#34
On August 29 2026 06:34 Scarlett` wrote:
Can we get a slider for the drag scroll speed (thats higher than the max now) and reverse direction option on it since its fixed

Yep! The next update will have a higher max setting + the option to reverse
Can you jam with the console cowboys in cyberspace?
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10095 Posts
August 30 2026 23:50 GMT
#35
if u wanna see how the server looks/how things work now:

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2860944346

pings been pretty good so far, my upload sucks so getting anything around ~250ms range while im streaming 3v3 bgh vs international players is solid lat for me
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
iopq
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1184 Posts
August 31 2026 04:50 GMT
#36
On August 27 2026 12:17 tec27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2026 11:53 ProTech wrote:
so is this a global match making? let's say I use gearUP vpn to reduce my ping, does that work?

It is global matchmaking, yes (with some prioritization for lower latency games). We have our own global network to reduce ping, so using a VPN will likely be strictly worse and is not recommended (especially if the VPN endpoint is far from your actual location)

unfortunately where I'm at blocks UDP so I am forced to use one in another country

would be amazing to send the packets just marked "TCP" but actually not implement the TCP protocol
Wondrous
Profile Joined February 2024
China1 Post
August 31 2026 08:09 GMT
#37
On August 26 2026 11:40 lamiy1029 wrote:
Why does SB only have the BGH map? It could follow the model of the KK Battle Platform, offering a map pool consisting of BGH, NEO and New Super. Players can ban up to two maps, allowing them to pick the maps they prefer to play.

In fact, the one who plays BGH will only play BGH, and so do Neo and Super.
quaristice
Profile Joined February 2021
174 Posts
September 01 2026 01:44 GMT
#38
i dont know money maps, what are neo and super?
lamiy1029
Profile Joined August 2026
2 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-09-01 08:25:04
September 01 2026 08:24 GMT
#39
On August 31 2026 17:09 Wondrous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2026 11:40 lamiy1029 wrote:
Why does SB only have the BGH map? It could follow the model of the KK Battle Platform, offering a map pool consisting of BGH, NEO and New Super. Players can ban up to two maps, allowing them to pick the maps they prefer to play.

In fact, the one who plays BGH will only play BGH, and so do Neo and Super.


Isn’t that exactly what I’m trying to say? ShieldBattery is mostly for BGH‑style games, which is unfriendly to Neo and Super map players.
tec27
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States3720 Posts
September 02 2026 02:13 GMT
#40
Listen, if you guys actually want to bring a community over to play, we can add queues for you, but you need to demonstrate that will happen before we do so. We already have largely dead Fastest queues because their community told us they wanted them and then did not actually use them. We can support more queues now thanks to multi-queue, but having 400 different queues that are mostly empty is not a good experience
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