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himurakenshin
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Canada1845 Posts
December 06 2007 18:14 GMT
#341

What I found hilarious was when I went to the thread for his "LastShad0w TvP Pressure guide", there were so many comments such as "really nice guide" "Thanks so Much!!! <33" "Omg sexy TvP guide". ahahaha all of us got owned ;p


On December 01 2007 03:52 Chill wrote:
Those comments were actually because we had already found out he was a cheater and were being sarcastic while ITW got all the replays and analysis ready.


LastShad0w TvP Pressure guide is his first guide. And you say those comments were sarcastic. That guide was in may, not November.

I'm not trying to say that Chill is a lying piece of shit mod. I'm saying that his post made it seem like he knew this shit all along.
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25989 Posts
December 06 2007 18:14 GMT
#342
Well that burned up my morning. It's almost lunch time. Pewpew
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intrigue
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Washington, D.C9934 Posts
December 06 2007 18:16 GMT
#343
okay so he confused the names of the threads
himurakenshininternetdetective 10 - 0 chilldumbass
Moderatorhttps://soundcloud.com/castlesmusic/sets/oak
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25989 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-06 18:17:32
December 06 2007 18:17 GMT
#344
I didn't even post the first comment! Not my fault!
Moderator
himurakenshin
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Canada1845 Posts
December 06 2007 18:18 GMT
#345
On December 07 2007 03:16 intrigue wrote:
okay so he confused the names of the threads
himurakenshininternetdetective 10 - 0 chilldumbass


lol I'm INTERNET DETECTIVE YO~~
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32091 Posts
December 06 2007 18:24 GMT
#346
On December 07 2007 03:13 MYM.Testie wrote:
TL.Net is so gay sometimes.


urtehgay

I don't see wtf the deal is. First time or two can be chalked up to 'oh my bad, downloaded the rigged map from a friend' *or instert other random lame excuse here*. It's not like how you can hack and be like 'MY BAD DIDNT KNOW'. But after he did it multiple times, chill says something. Big wuff?


Anyway, one less prick on here
PROFESSIONAL GAMER - SEND ME OFFERS TO JOIN YOUR TEAM - USA USA USA
himurakenshin
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Canada1845 Posts
December 06 2007 18:26 GMT
#347
I was wondering, was Testie's map hacking exposed on TL too? I was searching for a thread but I couldn't find it...
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
December 06 2007 18:42 GMT
#348
nope.

TL.net wasnt ran by witch hunters at that time. He was mocked and defriended but his hacking didnt get a thread with evidence and lame sarcastic humor.
Ansible
Profile Joined September 2007
United States73 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-06 18:55:37
December 06 2007 18:48 GMT
#349
On December 07 2007 03:14 himurakenshin wrote:
Show nested quote +

What I found hilarious was when I went to the thread for his "LastShad0w TvP Pressure guide", there were so many comments such as "really nice guide" "Thanks so Much!!! <33" "Omg sexy TvP guide". ahahaha all of us got owned ;p


Show nested quote +
On December 01 2007 03:52 Chill wrote:
Those comments were actually because we had already found out he was a cheater and were being sarcastic while ITW got all the replays and analysis ready.


LastShad0w TvP Pressure guide is his first guide. And you say those comments were sarcastic. That guide was in may, not November.

I'm not trying to say that Chill is a lying piece of shit mod. I'm saying that his post made it seem like he knew this shit all along.

thank you, himurakenshin, for your though-provoking and amazing expose on the "misleading" statements by our public figure Chill. i greatly appreciate you and your exhaustive and meticulous argument that spanned several pages in this thread! without it, i don't know what i would have done, this thread would have been meaningless, and i'm sure everyone thinks the same. thank you himurakenshin, thank you.

perhaps we should contact CNN or the NYTimes, they may want to run a front page news story "Local forum Moderator implied he KNEW ALL ALONG, but he might not have!! at least himurakenshin thinks so!" by himurakenshin. Pulitzer, for sure.

(alternate headline: "local forum user misunderstands words on the internet; is stupid")

everyone make sure to read pages 16-18 of this thread, it's TL.net hall of fame material for sure. we should promote himurakenshin to "TL.net detective" immediately, he could have a black name (for THE LAW) and a magnifying glass as an icon.
SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21550 Posts
December 06 2007 18:55 GMT
#350
On December 07 2007 03:42 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
nope.

TL.net wasnt ran by witch hunters at that time. He was mocked and defriended but his hacking didnt get a thread with evidence and lame sarcastic humor.

Wasn't his map hacking well known before TL.net was around?
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himurakenshin
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Canada1845 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-06 18:56:49
December 06 2007 18:56 GMT
#351
On December 07 2007 03:48 Ansible wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2007 03:14 himurakenshin wrote:

What I found hilarious was when I went to the thread for his "LastShad0w TvP Pressure guide", there were so many comments such as "really nice guide" "Thanks so Much!!! <33" "Omg sexy TvP guide". ahahaha all of us got owned ;p


On December 01 2007 03:52 Chill wrote:
Those comments were actually because we had already found out he was a cheater and were being sarcastic while ITW got all the replays and analysis ready.


LastShad0w TvP Pressure guide is his first guide. And you say those comments were sarcastic. That guide was in may, not November.

I'm not trying to say that Chill is a lying piece of shit mod. I'm saying that his post made it seem like he knew this shit all along.

thank you, himurakenshin, for your though-provoking and amazing expose on the "misleading" statements by our public figure Chill. i greatly appreciate you and your exhaustive and meticulous argument that spanned several pages in this thread! without it, i don't know what i would have done, this thread would have been meaningless, and i'm sure everyone thinks the same. thank you himurakenshin, thank you.

perhaps we should contact CNN or the NYTimes, they may want to run a front page news story "Local forum Moderator implied he KNEW ALL ALONG, but he might not have!! at least himurakenshin thinks so!" by himurakenshin. Pulitzer, for sure.

(alternate headline: "local forum user misunderstands words on the internet; is stupid")

everyone make sure to read pages 16-18 of this thread, it's TL.net hall of fame material for sure. we should promote himurakenshin to "TL.net detective" immediately, he could have a black name (for THE LAW) and a magnifying glass as an icon.


Hi! Welcome to Teamliquid ^_______^
Eti307
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
Canada3442 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-06 19:00:12
December 06 2007 18:58 GMT
#352
On December 07 2007 03:14 himurakenshin wrote:
Show nested quote +

What I found hilarious was when I went to the thread for his "LastShad0w TvP Pressure guide", there were so many comments such as "really nice guide" "Thanks so Much!!! <33" "Omg sexy TvP guide". ahahaha all of us got owned ;p


Show nested quote +
On December 01 2007 03:52 Chill wrote:
Those comments were actually because we had already found out he was a cheater and were being sarcastic while ITW got all the replays and analysis ready.


LastShad0w TvP Pressure guide is his first guide. And you say those comments were sarcastic. That guide was in may, not November.

I'm not trying to say that Chill is a lying piece of shit mod. I'm saying that his post made it seem like he knew this shit all along.


did you even read the threads or just assumed that BlueRoyal didn't fucked up in his thread title? after using the search function:

LastShadow's TvP Pressure Guide:
http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?currentpage=7&topic_id=53683

nothing really sarcastic going on (beside the pressure stuff), most are sincere answers

[G]The New Lastshadow TvP Guide!!
http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=62877

On November 26 2007 03:14 decafchicken wrote:
Absolutely GREAT guide lastshadow, improved my TvP soooooo much.

Would you please do a TvZ guide too?



On November 26 2007 04:52 Seraphim wrote:
Nice! I can't wait to turn into Stork and Boxer!

Thanks so much LS



On November 26 2007 09:23 decafchicken wrote:

Show nested quote +
On November 26 2007 04:36 lastshadow wrote:
Ok Question and Answer section can now be found at the bottom.


Chill, should I put it elsewhere in the guide? It doesn't seem to fit at the bottom.
Where would you like it or others for that matter?

And to the TvZ requests, its a possibilty, however I'd prefer to do PvT first, and TvZ is my weak point, but yes definately will consider it soon.



Thx for updating with Q&A

Please do a TvZ first pleaseeeeee
thanks a ton LS


On November 27 2007 00:20 yubee wrote:
wow, i know the shadow rush was a big joke before but i had never actually seen the build order. it's really a great build! i definitely think if the shadow rush became more popularized tosses would start to think twice about double expanding!!!


etc... the list goes on.
Look at the date.
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
December 06 2007 19:01 GMT
#353
On December 07 2007 03:55 SonuvBob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2007 03:42 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
nope.

TL.net wasnt ran by witch hunters at that time. He was mocked and defriended but his hacking didnt get a thread with evidence and lame sarcastic humor.

Wasn't his map hacking well known before TL.net was around?


Nick has had several hacking incidents and I think TL.net was around in 2002? Even earlier.. it was around then that Nick hacked. I could be wrong and if I am I am sorry. But this is what I think anyways, Nick would know the date of his temporary immaturity (he has grown since then obviously!)
SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21550 Posts
December 06 2007 19:01 GMT
#354
TL.net Counter-Detective Eti307 to the rescue!
Administrator
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
December 06 2007 19:08 GMT
#355
On December 07 2007 03:48 Ansible wrote:
we should promote himurakenshin to "TL.net detective" immediately, he could have a black name (for THE LAW) and a magnifying glass as an icon.


second this
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
himurakenshin
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Canada1845 Posts
December 06 2007 19:10 GMT
#356
i have more detective skills yet to be seen! (but i'm kinda getting tired of this. Seems like detective work isn't really for me).

BlueRoyal mentioned comments in the guide:

"really nice guide" "Thanks so Much!!! <33" "Omg sexy TvP guide"


and I found these in the First guide

nice guide, id like the reps allot, when i try to dl reps from wgt all i get is a page full of jiberish, i wanted to check out how supermachine plays


<3 perfective, so sexy tvp
maybe you could post some reps



I went to the second guide.

Search : sexy
Results: 0!!!!

Search: ninja
Results: 0

From this, I concluded that Blue Royal did not make a mistake in the thread title. He did not claim about sarcasm either.
JensOfSweden
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Cameroon1767 Posts
December 06 2007 19:13 GMT
#357
Thing is, these things get worse when there is a particular person who does the hacking that the "cool" nerds don't like.
<3 Nada [On and off TL.net since 2002
Eti307
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
Canada3442 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-06 19:18:13
December 06 2007 19:15 GMT
#358
<3 perfective, so sexy tvp
maybe you could post some reps


Posted by: dropthesky Canada. May 22 2007 20:30. Posts 283

someone no one knows, how can he be sarcastic. Chill said only a few forum posters knew about it (veterans) and those were the one posting sarcastic comments.

nice guide, id like the reps allot, when i try to dl reps from wgt all i get is a page full of jiberish, i wanted to check out how supermachine plays


Posted by: besiger.cry Croatia. May 23 2007 08:45. Posts 722
I don't see anything sarcastic in this comment either.

Try harder.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
December 06 2007 19:20 GMT
#359
On December 07 2007 03:05 Chill wrote:
Okay dude, you are getting hung up on the most minor of details, so I'm going to be very specific with this reply and hopefully you'll be satisfied.

Early 2007: Someone told me he was a map rigger (I forget who). I had never played him.
Mid 2007: I met him online. Played him PvT. He used allied Mines on me and then talked shit when he lost. I never saw him online again.
~July-October: I heard about him releasing a replay on GG.net against... Idra? Artosis? Nony? Some media member where he rigged the replay. He claimed it was an accident.
Mid-November 2007: He asked for games on Hamachi, me and Zulu_Nation8 played him 4 games. He used a rigged map on all of us.
Late-November 2007: We asked the community for more rigged plays, now that we knew he is not only doing this is high-level games, but casual games against TL veteran members.

So did I "know" he was a map rigger before November. I guess so, but not indesputably and not first hand. I also didn't know the extent of his rigging.


it's zulu_nation8
himurakenshin
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Canada1845 Posts
December 06 2007 19:22 GMT
#360
On December 07 2007 04:15 Eti307 wrote:
Show nested quote +
<3 perfective, so sexy tvp
maybe you could post some reps


Posted by: dropthesky Canada. May 22 2007 20:30. Posts 283

someone no one knows, how can he be sarcastic. Chill said only a few forum veterans knew about it and those were the one posting sarcastic comments.

Show nested quote +
nice guide, id like the reps allot, when i try to dl reps from wgt all i get is a page full of jiberish, i wanted to check out how supermachine plays


Posted by: besiger.cry Croatia. May 23 2007 08:45. Posts 722
I don't see anything sarcastic in this comment either.

Try harder.


Who's talking about sarcasm? You first said that BlueRoyal made a mistake when referencing the name of which guide he was talking about. I just showed you that he didn't. I don't understand this this sentence:

someone no one knows, how can he be sarcastic.


So I can't really comment on it.


Then Chill responded directly to BlueRoyal's post saying the "omg sexy TvP" etc. posts were out of sarcasm.

After me and Chill talked about it, it was clear that Chill didn't realize which guide BlueRoyal was talking about. He mistakingly though he was talking about the second guide instead of the first.





case closed lol~



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