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Waxangel
United States33369 Posts
A new season of AfreecaTV StarCraft League has been announced, starting with the online qualifier. Online qualifiers will be held during February 3rd-4th, with 24 players advancing to the main event. Maps to be used during the qualifier are Neo Dark Origin, Apocalypse, and Retro. The format of the main event is identical to ASL16, as is the total prize pool of ₩78,000,000 KRW and its distribution. 
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Lazyer
United States342 Posts
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RJBTVYOUTUBE
Netherlands838 Posts
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ShowTheLights
Korea (South)1683 Posts
... (please play Rain) why are they stilll playing neo dark origin ughhhh isnt it incredibly skewed towards Zerg for ZvP?[/i] | ||
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Piste
6175 Posts
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ruhtraeel
Canada119 Posts
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ThunderJunk
United States677 Posts
On January 24 2024 03:31 ShowTheLights wrote: [/i][b][b]RAIN ASL 17 CHAMPION LFG ... (please play Rain) why are they stilll playing neo dark origin ughhhh isnt it incredibly skewed towards Zerg for ZvP? I think the corrected/latest version boasts a pretty balanced winrate. HYPE!!! | ||
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Lazyer
United States342 Posts
On January 24 2024 03:47 ruhtraeel wrote: Is Effort not playing? Wrist injuries, wildcard was played today | ||
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M3t4PhYzX
Poland4193 Posts
Thx for the info  | ||
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G5
United States2898 Posts
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srj
Canada134 Posts
On January 24 2024 06:05 M3t4PhYzX wrote: Cool, I guess. Just a shame that the format stays the same.. but wholly expected, ofc. Thx for the info What don't you like about the format? I quite like it. My only change would be perhaps bringing some Bo3's into the Ro24. | ||
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Sonic_md
Moldova275 Posts
Gogo | ||
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M3t4PhYzX
Poland4193 Posts
On January 24 2024 16:19 srj wrote: What don't you like about the format? I quite like it. My only change would be perhaps bringing some Bo3's into the Ro24. yes, exactly. the ro24 format should be like the ro16 format and the ro16 format should be full bo3 the rest is good | ||
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Baamze
17 Posts
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outscar
2832 Posts
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ImbaTosS
United Kingdom1685 Posts
It confuses me how people still get hyped for Bisu. To me he looks totally out of ideas and like he belongs in RO16, and not further. | ||
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Branch.AUT
Austria853 Posts
On January 25 2024 04:12 outscar wrote: No sign of FlaSh still? Not good. I hope he stays away. A) because the tournament is no fun, when you know whos going to win. B) people who use their influence to advertise crypto pump+dump scams, don't deserve to have public spotlight. | ||
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Comedy
456 Posts
On January 25 2024 23:02 Branch.AUT wrote: I hope he stays away. A) because the tournament is no fun, when you know whos going to win. B) people who use their influence to advertise crypto pump+dump scams, don't deserve to have public spotlight. the ultimate god gamer having to quit this game because of a very stupid mistake, over a 20 year legacy of positive behaviour would just be a massive loss to the scene. Let him stay away a year or two and then return. | ||
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w3c]sKopheK
Czech Republic54 Posts
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M3t4PhYzX
Poland4193 Posts
On January 25 2024 23:02 Branch.AUT wrote: I hope he stays away. A) because the tournament is no fun, when you know whos going to win. B) people who use their influence to advertise crypto pump+dump scams, don't deserve to have public spotlight. Same thoughts. It makes the tournament much more interesting. | ||
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prion_
69 Posts
On January 25 2024 23:48 Comedy wrote: the ultimate god gamer having to quit this game because of a very stupid mistake, over a 20 year legacy of positive behaviour would just be a massive loss to the scene. Let him stay away a year or two and then return. He could definitely come back, he'd just have to deal with people yelling at him for a bit and apologizing like Bisu. | ||
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Branch.AUT
Austria853 Posts
On January 26 2024 01:51 prion_ wrote: He could definitely come back, he'd just have to deal with people yelling at him for a bit and apologizing like Bisu. Choices matter. In real life, just like in starcraft. You can play perfectly for 20 minutes, and then still get rolled if your recall defense isn't on point. 20 years of good behaviour (half of which spent on a really very short kespa leash) doesn't matter, if you turn out to be a money grubbing bizxh. He chose to be a part of it. Now hes taking the consequences like a man. I respect flash for this, as long as he stays away. | ||
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ThunderJunk
United States677 Posts
On January 26 2024 04:59 Branch.AUT wrote: Choices matter. In real life, just like in starcraft. You can play perfectly for 20 minutes, and then still get rolled if your recall defense isn't on point. 20 years of good behaviour (half of which spent on a really very short kespa leash) doesn't matter, if you turn out to be a money grubbing bizxh. He chose to be a part of it. Now hes taking the consequences like a man. I respect flash for this, as long as he stays away. The thing is, cryptocurrency is pretty fundamentally a scheme people use to get rich quick - including the people who invest in it. If they then get mad because they didn't get rich, but instead made someone else rich... QQ for me and I'll drink some tears. | ||
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orangeshines
United Kingdom202 Posts
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BulgarianToss
Bulgaria484 Posts
On January 26 2024 17:15 orangeshines wrote: Wait what did Flash do? Something bad how did I miss this? Do you have any links? Forum search is your friend, here is all the info you will probably need FlaSh's Crypto Scandal TL thread | ||
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BulgarianToss
Bulgaria484 Posts
On January 26 2024 19:50 BulgarianToss wrote: Forum search is your friend, here is all the info you will probably need FlaSh's Crypto Scandal TL thread PS additional info and update on the situation The uncertainty behind FlaSh's Return; In-depth | ||
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RJBTVYOUTUBE
Netherlands838 Posts
On January 25 2024 19:43 ImbaTosS wrote: I'll look forward to this! It confuses me how people still get hyped for Bisu. To me he looks totally out of ideas and like he belongs in RO16, and not further. In online play he is second to Snow and Mini. Sometimes on Par for short periods of time. If Bisu can bring his online peaks to offline he has a legitimate chance. I feel like he stopped capitalizing on good opportunities in offline. On that same note. If SnOw can bring his online form he again is the favorite. But past events have shown he can rarely bring that form to ASL. Snow is in fact so good in online that he has the current record for highest ELO rating since they started tracking in remastered Era. For the month of January he has 87W/23L vs top pros. http://eloboard.com/men/bbs/board.php?bo_table=rank_list | ||
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TMNT
2704 Posts
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[sc1f]eonzerg
Belgium6579 Posts
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TMNT
2704 Posts
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Game[GTB]
Canada47 Posts
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Zergxhx
China146 Posts
On January 27 2024 07:02 Game[GTB] wrote: Flash is so yesterday (5 years ago).. can you all move on to someone else please? Or half of yesterday (2.5 years) | ||
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IntoTheEmo
Singapore1169 Posts
On January 25 2024 23:02 Branch.AUT wrote: I hope he stays away. A) because the tournament is no fun, when you know whos going to win. B) people who use their influence to advertise crypto pump+dump scams, don't deserve to have public spotlight. Tournament is no fun either when the final boss isn't there to raise the standard of play. I'm of the opinion that there are still plenty of people who want to watch him play, and a great way to repent is to dedicate himself to pleasing his remaining fanbase by playing BW instead of hiding forever. I imagine that's what JD would do, considering that's what he's doing right now. | ||
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Glioburd
France1911 Posts
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ThunderJunk
United States677 Posts
On January 25 2024 23:48 Comedy wrote: the ultimate god gamer having to quit this game because of a very stupid mistake, over a 20 year legacy of positive behaviour would just be a massive loss to the scene. Let him stay away a year or two and then return. I don't need to wait. God Gamer is above reproach. | ||
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mtcn77
Turkey348 Posts
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konadora
Singapore66160 Posts
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HOLYBATS
Turkey726 Posts
On January 31 2024 12:35 konadora wrote: man please get rid of neo dark origin lol Why? | ||
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M3t4PhYzX
Poland4193 Posts
On January 31 2024 12:35 konadora wrote: man please get rid of neo dark origin lol seriously though.. out of all the maps they could have used again they picked the most boring one.. bizarre. | ||
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Malongo
Chile3472 Posts
On January 27 2024 01:49 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: I legit think Snow could have won 3 ASLs by now with those skills. But sometimes skill is not enough. If he can manage to dodge Z rivals he is a strong contender. But a Starleague is a completely different beast compared to Proleague Team play. | ||
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Piste
6175 Posts
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mtcn77
Turkey348 Posts
On January 31 2024 22:30 Malongo wrote: If he can manage to dodge Z rivals he is a strong contender. But a Starleague is a completely different beast compared to Proleague Team play. Snow is a really dominant player. He can really turn around a steamrolling Terran push, the kind which I have seen Bisu do against Flash. It is very spectacular when Protoss can negate a Terran's map control. PS: I'm really hopeful that this season will be the old school pros' season. Action, Sharp, Snow - go, go, go! I'm cheering for your success! | ||
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oxKnu
1179 Posts
On January 31 2024 22:11 M3t4PhYzX wrote: seriously though.. out of all the maps they could have used again they picked the most boring one.. bizarre. It's not boring, it's simply unbalanced. | ||
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diveardhana94
4 Posts
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Cruiser0929
516 Posts
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RJBTVYOUTUBE
Netherlands838 Posts
You might notice a very big name and some medium size names missing. + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/HTOatrG.png) | ||
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shakigami
219 Posts
On February 04 2024 19:48 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote: The qualified players! You might notice a very big name and some medium size names missing. + Show Spoiler + zero? what happened? | ||
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Zografa
177 Posts
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ThunderJunk
United States677 Posts
On February 04 2024 19:48 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote: The qualified players! You might notice a very big name and some medium size names missing. + Show Spoiler + Sharp's definitely the wildcard of the season. Every single Protoss I can think of as an ASL regular is there already. Unless you want to fight about how Horang2 and HiyA are actually major contenders that are conspicuously missing... i don't see a ton of medium-sized names I'd expect to see. Could someone inform me if I'm missing any medium-sized names? | ||
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[sc1f]eonzerg
Belgium6579 Posts
On February 04 2024 23:12 ThunderJunk wrote: Sharp's definitely the wildcard of the season. Every single Protoss I can think of as an ASL regular is there already. Unless you want to fight about how Horang2 and HiyA are actually major contenders that are conspicuously missing... i don't see a ton of medium-sized names I'd expect to see. Could someone inform me if I'm missing any medium-sized names? im not sure a super Shock but Free and Ruin are usually regulars. Queen not making it is really shocking to me. Sacsri not making it it is surprising too. | ||
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ThunderJunk
United States677 Posts
On February 04 2024 23:37 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: im not sure a super Shock but Free and Ruin are usually regulars. Queen not making it is really shocking to me. Sacsri not making it it is surprising too. Ahh! I missed Queen! Effort grinding too hard and injuring his wrist is tragic. He was my favorite last season before Mini proved to be Effort's worst conceptual matchup. | ||
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Sonic_md
Moldova275 Posts
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Sonic_md
Moldova275 Posts
As for me, they have the strongest lineup - compared to the lineups of players other races. (The Zerg have a rather weak composition, the last thing I looked at was their weak skill, the Earthlings have a little better representation, including in numbers). Especially considering how strong Snow is playing right now and Rain could get into shape as the tournament progresses, Bisu is also benefiting from his vast experience. Well, Best with his excellent PvT. Well, that would be fair. It's no joke - over the past 16 seasons, the Ayur representatives have only 3 victories. Zerg have 5 titles, Terrans have 8. Good luck to everyone. The main thing is less boring mirror matches. | ||
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M3t4PhYzX
Poland4193 Posts
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RJBTVYOUTUBE
Netherlands838 Posts
On February 05 2024 03:01 Sonic_md wrote: beast, ZeLoT, Speed, TaeNGu, TY - cool - New (old) Faces last time speed got read like a book by action and could not show off his skill. Speed has some serious potential but can be hit or miss. | ||
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mtcn77
Turkey348 Posts
Zero has a huge early aggression blindspot to zealots. | ||
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iRkSupperman
Norway130 Posts
Guy above literally making stuff up | ||
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RJBTVYOUTUBE
Netherlands838 Posts
On February 05 2024 15:55 iRkSupperman wrote: Zero lost to BBS and a 1base 2 rax academy.. Not Zealots lol Guy above literally making stuff up haha! yeah he got cheesed. | ||
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ruhtraeel
Canada119 Posts
Zero has really fallen off a cliff after he got married and had a kid (understandably so). He's probably the 6th best Zerg now after Soulkey, Hero, Soma, Effort and Action, probably tied with JD. | ||
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Miragee
8505 Posts
On February 05 2024 15:55 iRkSupperman wrote: Zero lost to BBS and a 1base 2 rax academy.. Not Zealots lol Guy above literally making stuff up Maybe they meant the first qualifier against Shuttle? I have not watched those but it sounds plausible that Shuttle won with early zealots... | ||
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mtcn77
Turkey348 Posts
On February 05 2024 19:04 Miragee wrote: Maybe they meant the first qualifier against Shuttle? I have not watched those but it sounds plausible that Shuttle won with early zealots... I watched Mini straight up cheese him with zealots in the coming months leading up to ASL. It was a wild guess that would be the culprit. | ||
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G5
United States2898 Posts
On February 05 2024 19:04 Miragee wrote: Maybe they meant the first qualifier against Shuttle? I have not watched those but it sounds plausible that Shuttle won with early zealots... Shuttle won Game 1 with a cannon rush plus zealots and like 3 probes on Dark Origin. The other game Shuttle won was Game 3 on Retro, Queen got into a solid 4 base and was turtled up with sunken, lurker, hydra while denying shuttle's 3rd and I thought the game was over in Queens favor but shuttle somehow plowed through what I thought was an impenetrable natural to take the game. | ||
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TMNT
2704 Posts
![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/yNj0Lr6.png) Except for group A, upsets can happen in pretty much all the other groups. First games to be played on Radeon aka the new Vermeer. Winners and losers to be played on either Blitz Y, Citadel or Troy (each player bans 1) Decider to be played on either Neo Dark Origin, Apocalypse or Retro (each player bans 1) | ||
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Sonic_md
Moldova275 Posts
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RJBTVYOUTUBE
Netherlands838 Posts
On February 13 2024 22:49 TMNT wrote: Group stage: Except for group A, upsets can happen in pretty much all the other groups. First games to be played on Radeon aka the new Vermeer. Winners and losers to be played on either Blitz Y, Citadel or Troy (each player bans 1) Decider to be played on either Neo Dark Origin, Apocalypse or Retro (each player bans 1) my hot take predictions. Group A: Light over zelot. bisu over sea. light over bisu. zelot over sea. zelot over bisu. Group B: Ssak over best. action over taenggu. ssak over action. best over taenggu. action over best. Group C: Hero over killer. Stork over Mind. Hero over stork. Mind over killer. Mind over stork. Group D: Jyj over ty. jd over shuttle. jd over jyj. shuttle over ty. jyj over shuttle. Group E: Royal over beast. rain over barracks. rain over royal. beast over barracks. royal over beast. Group F: speed over snow. shine over mong. speed over shine. snow over mong. snow over shine. | ||
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A.Alm
Sweden515 Posts
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Destroyer
Czech Republic931 Posts
GLHF | ||
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Piste
6175 Posts
Best sSak Hero Mind JyJ JD Royal Rain Snow Mong | ||
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M3t4PhYzX
Poland4193 Posts
On February 14 2024 03:46 A.Alm wrote: Are Retro and Neo Dark Origin the most boring modern maps ever made? Retro, idk. NDO, definitely. | ||
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M3t4PhYzX
Poland4193 Posts
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ruhtraeel
Canada119 Posts
Best Action Hero Mind JyJ Shuttle Rain Royal Snow Mong | ||
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RJBTVYOUTUBE
Netherlands838 Posts
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Lazyer
United States342 Posts
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TornadoSteve
1020 Posts
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mtcn77
Turkey348 Posts
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NeedlerNoobRTS
2 Posts
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Smorrie
Netherlands2922 Posts
On February 14 2024 22:52 NeedlerNoobRTS wrote: Coming back after a long time. I thought Soul Key and Flash were still active? Neither of them made it? Tier means who ranks the best within their group? Flash didn't enter. SoulKey is seeded into RO16, together with Mini, Rush & Sharp (last RO4 finishers). You didn't ask, but Fantasy didn't enter either & Queen/ZerO didn't make it through the qualifiers. | ||
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mtcn77
Turkey348 Posts
This season I'm for Mini Sharp Action old school players. | ||
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Smorrie
Netherlands2922 Posts
On February 14 2024 23:28 mtcn77 wrote: I think last ASL was a rerun of the previous ASL 15. People had high aspirations for the previous ASL winner who couldn't even make it out of the group stages. Winning strategy is about besting the last winner's playstyle in my opinion. I think Soul Key would have it pretty rough himself since being a champion, too. Everybody would have memorised his games. This season I'm for Mini Sharp Action old school players. Perfect conditions for SnOw this season. If he can't make it out of his group he probably should just stick to online play only lol. Hope JD can make it out of his group - he's been working so hard & on fire lately.. perfect time to display those new nDie JD24 skills! | ||
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mtcn77
Turkey348 Posts
On February 14 2024 23:37 Smorrie wrote: Perfect conditions for SnOw this season. If he can't make it out of his group he probably should just stick to online play only lol. Hope JD can make it out of his group - he's been working so hard & on fire lately.. perfect time to display those new nDie JD24 skills! Let's hope JD the poet can orchestrate one more opus magnum! | ||
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HOLYBATS
Turkey726 Posts
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Sonic_md
Moldova275 Posts
1)Haven't been to the finals or won the ASL yet. 2) Who has not yet been to the Ro16 stage. Therefore: Best, Bisu, Action, JD gogo, and other guys from Tier3-4 gogo | ||
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Sonic_md
Moldova275 Posts
On February 15 2024 00:02 mtcn77 wrote: Let's hope JD the poet can orchestrate one more opus magnum! JD played against Snow yesterday. Looked very powerful. I saw 1 game - he won, quickly reached the 200 limit, and the entire game the APM was 350+ | ||
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prosatan
Romania8020 Posts
On February 15 2024 17:16 HOLYBATS wrote: Stacked groups. Let LB begins! + 1 HOLYBATS !! | ||
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RJBTVYOUTUBE
Netherlands838 Posts
On February 15 2024 17:30 Sonic_md wrote: JD played against Snow yesterday. Looked very powerful. I saw 1 game - he won, quickly reached the 200 limit, and the entire game the APM was 350+ jaedong won and lost a bo3 vs snow. score 2-3. Mini had a 4 kill in proleague. Snow was godchamp in january but has dropped a lot of games in february so far. he went from 80% winrate in january to sub 48% in february. Edit: Snow actually just fixed his winrate back to 50% plus today. | ||
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Kespa1988
38 Posts
JD won 7-2 vs Shuttle in today's Ultimate Battle. User was warned for this post | ||
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Zografa
177 Posts
On February 16 2024 00:50 Kespa1988 wrote: JD won 7-2 vs Shuttle in today's Ultimate Battle. interesting that they play just before their group games in ASL | ||
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TornadoSteve
1020 Posts
On February 16 2024 00:50 Kespa1988 wrote: JD won 7-2 vs Shuttle in today's Ultimate Battle. Relax, mate. He prolly got double gate proxy twice. | ||
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PVJ
Hungary5214 Posts
light bisu /b bezt taenggu /c hero stork /d jyj ty /e royal rain /f snow shine | ||
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Nirli
Bulgaria369 Posts
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TMNT
2704 Posts
 Stork and  TY right now | ||
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Comedy
456 Posts
He's getting manhandled. 0-5 as we speak. | ||
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[sc1f]eonzerg
Belgium6579 Posts
On February 15 2024 17:30 Sonic_md wrote: JD played against Snow yesterday. Looked very powerful. I saw 1 game - he won, quickly reached the 200 limit, and the entire game the APM was 350+ Best game analysis i have seen in my life. Not doubt Jaedong will win his games if he can reach 350+ apm. | ||
Peeano
Netherlands4988 Posts
On February 16 2024 20:59 TMNT wrote: For anyone wondering what shape TY is in, 9 games Ultimate Battle between Stork and TY right nowWhen I briefly checked TY's stream just a few days ago he was lazily enjoying himself watching Rain stream League. | ||
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Peeano
Netherlands4988 Posts
A stomp like expected. I guess TY can happily return to watch some more of Rain's stream since he's playing League again  It kinda grinds my gears when people (with talent) that obviously don't care about winning ASL qualify. | ||
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RJBTVYOUTUBE
Netherlands838 Posts
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Peeano
Netherlands4988 Posts
On February 17 2024 01:08 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote: usually they play league custom draft 5v5 with and vs other streamers for a big pot of cash. Understandable, but who's here to watch that? | ||
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WGT-Baal
France3361 Posts
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prosatan
Romania8020 Posts
On February 16 2024 15:01 Nirli wrote: Don't get prosatan's hopes up guys. He's had enough heartbreak as it is. Correct Nirli !  I'm a little worried vs Shuttle... his pvz is quite strong  | ||
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