• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 00:50
CEST 06:50
KST 13:50
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
The Best Worst Final: sOs vs INnoVation11[ASL16] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Rematches10ZeroSpace - Xol Faction Reveal57WTL 2023 Winter - Code A Preview/Power Rank14[ASL16] Ro16 Preview Pt2: Even Scales4
Community News
2023 Code S Season 3 Ro16 Groups4New PTR Patch 5.0.1268ESL Open #193: herO, MaxPax, Clem win3ESL Masters Winter 2023 - Qualifiers + Schedule0Serral wins Master's Coliseum 648
StarCraft 2
General
New PTR Patch 5.0.12 Cara LaForge Talks Raising Day[9] & Tasteless... New Map Pool Has 9 Maps The Best Worst Final: sOs vs INnoVation 2023 Code S Season 3 Ro16 Groups
Tourneys
Tenacious Turtle Tussle (Americas/OCE/Asia) PIG STY FESTIVAL 4.0! (20-24 September) KSL Week 28 WardiTV 2023 Opens (Monthly) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
[G] YAKS LOTV: Yet Another hotKey Setup - zerg Simple Questions Simple Answers Practice Partner Thread Season 1 - 2018
Custom Maps
StarLance | Extension Mod – Multiplayer LotV
External Content
Mutation # 387 Train of Pain Mutation # 386 Dance Dance Evolution Mutation # 385 Knock Knock Mutation # 384 Getting Along
Brood War
General
BGH auto balance -> http://bghmmr.com/ Little things you hate about Brood War? Restoration should be researched in TvZ [ASL16] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Rematches What would you like to see in the next ASL?
Tourneys
[ASL16] Ro16 Group D [ASL16] Ro8 Day 1 Small VOD Thread 2.0 KCM Team Tournament
Strategy
Why is ____ not used for (Matchup here)? Simple Questions, Simple Answers ZvP Retro Walls Hiding Defilers
Other Games
General Games
FF7 remake for PS4 announced Cyberpunk 2077 Age of Empires IV Tom Clancy's Division Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[Summer Split] LoL Esports General Discussion
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes International Nations Cup - Berlin 2023 HotS: WP and Funny Moments
Hearthstone
Is Hearthstone Gambling?
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread TL Mafia: Generative Agents Showdown Everybody smurfs for TTT mafia Quarterly Mafia 1 - part 2 QM Part 2 Vote Thread
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Planets that can potentially support life... The Games Industry And ATVI Trading/Investing Thread
Fan Clubs
RotterdaM Fan Club The Stephano Fan Club Mvp Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece [Manga] Berserk Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion!
Sports
2023 - 2024 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 2023 NFL/CFB Season Formula 1 Discussion NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022 Thread
Tech Support
Cannot log into Liquipedia.net using tl.net accoun Spotify and SC II
TL Community
Gay StarCraft Players The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Baal's last 15 years, with …
WGT-Baal
Returning to Starcraft. Balance …
-_-
About parenting
Uldridge
EternaLEnVy Post DotA Tr…
EternaLEnVy
Darius the great Golden plates…
kfpnw
Three Volume VI
Mizenhauer
[Girl blog] These feelings do…
Garnet
ASL S16 English Commentarie…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1627 users

[ASL14] Ro24 Preview Pt2: Speedrunning

Forum Index > BW General
7 CommentsPost a Reply

[ASL14] Ro24 Preview Pt2: Speedrunning

Text byTL.net ESPORTS
Graphics byv1
August 16th, 2022 07:49 GMT
ASL11 Main Image
With all the lateness of the start of the Season we're already barreling through towards wrapping up the Ro24 with the remaining 3 groups.

After the first set of groups went by pretty much as expected, will Group D,E and F prove any different or are we in for a surprise going into Ro16?

Group A Preview

New Kid On The Block


I mean if you look at the rest of the group, (Z)DDasik may just be someone who just dropped into the wrong neighbourhood and is most likely going to get beaten on by (Z)Soulkey, (T)JyJ and (T)sSak, but will he have a good showing or is the ACS winner a one and done?

(Z)Soulkey had a fantastic run last season that was ended by evental finalist Rain, but the takeaway from that season for him would definitely just be that getting COVID sucks and derails your momentum to perform. ZvZ while it may not be the sorespot it once was (Z)Soulkey definitely has issues dealing with it in a Bo1 situation, probably the biggest chance for (Z)DDasik to take a game in the whole group may just be the opening match against (Z)Soulkey, that being said (Z)Soulkey should be able to handle (Z)DDasik and his ZvT is still on a level where he should only lose to people like (T)Light or (T)Rush(like he did in the wildcard qualifier) and should handily beat (T)JyJ and definitely beat (T)sSak making him the most likely to advance from the group, first or otherwise.

(T)JyJ is right now the stronger of the two terrans in the group, with him making the Ro8 at least on a regular basis in the ASL he’s a shoe in to qualify in the group with his biggest trouble being (Z)Soulkey, (Z)DDasik is not an issue and (T)sSak is someone he’s beaten before, in the Ro24 last season even as both were on the same group then too where (T)JyJ not only advanced but made it out of the group 1st beating both (T)sSak and (Z)Soma, he can pull that off by beating (T)sSak first again before going up against (Z)Soulkey.

(T)sSak hasn’t been a contender since the last 7-8 years to be honest, even less so since he’s come back from military service, he’s more or less landed into the role of the guy who’s always there to pad out the Ro24, he’ll beat (Z)DDasik at least but fail to produce results against (T)JyJ and probably won’t even cross paths with (Z)Soulkey, but if he does he will not win.

(Z)DDasik, already covered a lot of ground with him when talking about others in the group he won ACS putting him directly in the finals of his ASL qualifiers which put him against Hyuk and he won and thats how he’s here, the other opponents are not just any seasoned veterans but if he can give even a decent showing he might catch the eye of fans and in turn the other pros enough to be someone accepted in their circle and thats how he’ll really take off in his growth.

(Z)Soulkey and (T)JyJ Advance To The Ro16!

Group B Preview

Magikarp Splashes Back


There’s a lot going on in this group, first of all, we got (Z)Jaedong, thats a nuff’ said situation right there, the crowd is going to be packed on this night, to top that off its an Oz reunion with a return after a long long time of (T)HiyA, then we got (Z)Shine who asks everyone to observe his run and finally, last but certainly not the least is (P)Snow with a lot to prove after how he exited the ASL last season.

You’d call this a group of death in 2011, which was 11 years ago….oh no…

After his shock early exit last season by the hands of (Z)ggaemo twice, (P)Snow is back with a vengeance and his first order of business is to break (T)HiyA back into the big time, so unless he has a flashback to last season he should be able to beat him with ease and make it to the winner’s game, most likely going to face (Z)Jaedong, who he should beat but even if he doesn’t (Z)Shine and (T)HiyA aren’t on the level that is concerning for (P)Snow’s chances to qualify.

(Z)Shine is a mixed bag, both of builds and of consistency having missed out on ASL13 he is pretty much an unknown entity in 2022, its entirely possible he’s just here to give people a good show and nothing more and that would be fine for him, but unless he’s catching people off guard on anything he’s not winning many if any games this group, he’ll probably beat (T)HiyA.

(T)HiyA hasn’t been in an ASL since ASL4, thats 10 seasons, thats the first one since the launch of StarCraft Remastered, where he lost in the Ro24, in a group that also happened to feature (Z)Jaedong against whom he lost to. He’s been gone a long while and as much fun as it would be to see ol’ magikarp here tear it up like he used to as the 2 punch of Hwaseung Oz’s 1-2 punch, he hasn’t really been in a prominent position since the SSL died.

(Z)Jaedong, I was so sure he would make the Ro8 last season, he was even in a great position to pull it off with him already beating (Z)Soulkey earlier in the opening game of their group only to lose to him in the final set and be eliminated, since then, somethings have changed, the starcraft university scene popped off, with (Z)Jaedong becoming one of the god tier members of his team Basford, its been mentioned in interviews how the Basford members have been helping each other out with practice this ASL season thus far, we might be able to see the old (Z)Jaedong, his ZvZ is very much the JvZ of old and should handily defeat (Z)Shine in the opening game, his challenge of course would be (P)Snow who he will hopefully face in the winner’s game where we’ll see how that practice pays off, he should also make short work of (T)HiyA if he meets him.

(P)Snow and (Z)Jaedong Advance To The Ro16!


Group B Preview

Born Free


Group F will be bring viewers a new level of underdog PvT grit. (T)Rush comes in as the top seed of the group and is so far ahead of the other three opponents it doesn’t even seem fair. (T)Rush had three consecutive seeds to the round of 16 and will be competing in the round of 24 bracket for his first time since season 10. Both (T)Mong and (P)Horang2 did well enough to compete in last season’s round of 24. Both were and are still are group fodder. They were each knocked out with a 1-2 record. Lastly, (P)free makes his bi-seasonal appearance. Free hasn’t qualified for two ASL’s consecutively since season’s 1 and 2. Season 12 was a breakthrough season for Free and he did qualify for the round of 16. Free is hoping to be the best of the underdogs and return there once again.

(T)Rush and (P)free face off first on Butter. This two player map has shown to be slightly favorable to Protoss players. The early game edge can become a huge advantage if Protoss scouts well and responds to the Terran openings. Free, being less than exceptional in the ASL era, is more prone than most Protoss players to miss opportunities. His was once greatness exemplified in the PvT matchup has all but extinguished, and Rush has quickly become one of the best TvP players of today. Rush will have no trouble winning his first series.

(T)Mong battles it out with (P)Horang2. Mong has been an extremely solid B level Terran player for 8 years now. He is without a doubt a challenge to anybody not considered best in the tournament. Despite his poor success in the ASL, his skill level and ability to navigate the game is always still apparent. Horang2 offers little in terms of consistency in the ASL era. Horang2 finds a greater success in taking unusual build orders or high micro situations. It’s possible that Horang2 is refusing to evolve his PvT builds into the current era, but is still able to find mild success. Mong will have his challenges, but he should find himself winning his first match of the day here.

The last time (T)Rush lost a TvT series was in season 10... against (R)Flash. Rush has become a TvT giant, taking wins off both (T)BarrackS and (T)Light over the past several years. (T)Mong has historically struggled in the matchup. In the pre-ASL era he had a 28% winrate in TvT, and this was against much lower competition. To even theorize how Mong beats Rush would be an insult to the player. Rush losing any of his games today would be one of ASL’s largest upsets. Rush wins 2-0 in this group.

(P)free faces off against (P)Horang2 in the pit of loser matches. Low rated players playing PvP usually shows the greatest games. Both players currently lack crisp timings and well thought out build orders. That means they will have to fall back on their general skill set. Free has had long sprees, a decade ago, where his PvP was quite scary. However, Horang2 still remains a quiet threat in the matchup. His fast fingers generally frustrate even the best of players. This gives him an edge whether it comes from cheese or micro battles. Free will do what he has always done, lose this game and return in season 16.

(P)Horang2 has a rematch against (T)Mong. Mong hasn’t lost a PvT in the ro24 in ASL since season 8. This includes a huge win against (P)Mini in Season 11. This is the same season Mini who made it to the finals. Horang2 clings to a 33% winrate in spon matches right now against Terran. There is some chance Horang2 plays a game good enough to beat Mong, but Mong looks to be the clear winner here.


(T)Rush and (T)Mong Advance To Ro16!



Writers: BLinD-RawR, BisuDagger
Graphics: v1
Editors: BLinD-RawR

Facebook Twitter Reddit
TL+ Member
t2azor
Profile Joined April 2017
32 Posts
August 16 2022 08:43 GMT
#2
they should make zvz matches on maps with built in spores at main and expo
QOGQOG
Profile Joined July 2019
799 Posts
August 16 2022 13:33 GMT
#3
It's with noting that Mong's abysmal TvT record is largely due to Flash first picking him for the Ro16 over and over. Not that I think he will be much challenge for Rush, but the numbers are misleading.
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia18859 Posts
August 16 2022 13:51 GMT
#4
On August 16 2022 22:33 QOGQOG wrote:
It's with noting that Mong's abysmal TvT record is largely due to Flash first picking him for the Ro16 over and over. Not that I think he will be much challenge for Rush, but the numbers are misleading.

That's why I brought up his pre-ASL TvT numbers. He has a long history of mediocre TvT beyond ASLs.
ModeratorOfiicial Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
CeJo1
Profile Joined August 2021
21 Posts
August 16 2022 13:56 GMT
#5
Rooting for Free besides the bad statistics
HOLYBATS
Profile Joined August 2021
Turkey416 Posts
August 16 2022 16:42 GMT
#6
Go Free!
nb.lossilohi
Profile Joined August 2011
Finland32 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-08-18 05:54:00
August 18 2022 05:53 GMT
#7
Hi, im very grateful of review! Could you tell me where can i find spon matches statistics and do i need to use some kind of translator for navigating the site?
88marss
Profile Joined November 2021
Lithuania18 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-08-19 10:00:50
August 19 2022 10:00 GMT
#8
poor jd , never lucky

LITHUANIA 4EVER
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 3h 10m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SortOf 67
Forgg! 62
Dragon 4
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 12188
Hyuk 587
Bale 471
Jumperer 314
Snow 191
Dewaltoss 45
Sexy 32
Hm[arnc] 6
PianO 0
Dota 2
monkeys_forever2136
League of Legends
JimRising 940
Counter-Strike: Global Offensive
Stewie2K2230
m0e_tv1325
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox635
ChuDatz7
Other Games
summit1g13408
shahzam1660
C9.Mang01064
Liquid`RaSZi735
Maynarde232
Fuzer 57
febbydoto43
HitmanStarcraft216
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick804
StarCraft 2
Esl_sc2269
ESL.tv269
StarCraft: Brood War
StarcraftVOD3
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• practicex 45
• Kozan
• Laughngamez YouTube
• aXEnki
• Poblha
• intothetv
• Gussbus
• Migwel
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamez Trovo
StarCraft: Brood War
• sscaitournament2
• STPLYoutube
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• Ambition809
• Stunt470
Other Games
• Scarra1950
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
3h 10m
PiG Sty Festival
5h 10m
Maru vs NightMare
herO vs HeRoMaRinE
WardiTV European League
11h 10m
Sniper's StarCraft League
12h 10m
SpeCial vs Nice
DIMAGA vs Kas
Korean StarCraft League
22h 10m
PiG Sty Festival
1d 5h
Dark vs Spirit
ByuN vs MaxPax
WardiTV European League
1d 8h
BSL
1d 11h
WardiTV European League
1d 11h
Tenacious Turtle Tussle
1d 19h
[ Show More ]
PiG Sty Festival
2 days
Serral vs Bunny
Wardi Open
2 days
BSL
2 days
BSL
2 days
ESL Open Cup
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Sharp vs Mini
ESL Open Cup
3 days
ESL Open Cup
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
EffOrt vs Action
WardiTV Korean Royale
4 days
Creator vs Solar
Creator vs DongRaeGu
Maru vs ByuN
Maru vs Classic
ByuN vs Scarlett
DongRaeGu vs NightMare
Solar vs NightMare
Scarlett vs Classic
WardiTV Korean Royale
5 days
GuMiho vs Ryung
GuMiho vs Stats
herO vs RagnaroK
herO vs Dark
RagnaroK vs Cure
Stats vs Astrea
Ryung vs Astrea
Cure vs Dark
WardiTV Korean Royale
6 days
Classic vs ByuN
Scarlett vs Solar
Dark vs RagnaroK
Cure vs Ryung
GuMiho vs Astrea
Maru vs DongRaeGu
Creator vs NightMare
herO vs Stats
PassionCraft
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Tournament of Legends International Season 4
Master's Coliseum 6
Calamity Stars - Qualifier #2
IESF WEC 2023

Ongoing

FS Mania
BSL 25x25
ASL Season 16
CSL 10: 2023 Fall
GSL2023 S2
WardiTV Korean Royale S2
PiG Sty Festival 4.0
Raven Court Inhouse League
ESL Challenger League S46 NA
ESL Challenger League S46 AP
ESL Pro League Season 18
CCT Online Finals #3

Upcoming

Copa Latinoamericana Season 2
Bombastic 25th Anniversary LAN
ESL Winter
ESL Winter: Asia
ESL Winter: Americas
ESL Winter: Europe
2023 GSL S3: Code S
WTL 2023 Winter
Lion Lad's By Release
Low Elo Heroes
Calamity Stars
Calamity Stars - Qualifier #3
CS:GO Asia Championships 2023
FiReLEAGUE Global Finals
Thunderpick World Championship
Roobet Cup 2023
IEM Sydney 2023
BLAST Premier Fall AME Showdown
BLAST Premier Fall EU Showdown
ESL Challenger League S46 EU
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2023 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.