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[ASL12] Ro16 Preview Pt2: Stork Song

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[ASL12] Ro16 Preview Pt2: Stork Song

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October 3rd, 2021 16:21 GMT
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Ro16 Continues with the hotly anticipated Group C aka this season's Group of Death, featuring ZerO, Stork, Light and Snow, its going to be one hell of a banger and followed up the very next day with Group D featuring Rush, Soulkey, beast and BarrackS! Heres how we think the Ro16 is going to conclude.

Group A Preview

Whats a Ro16 without a Group of Death? (Z)ZerO, (P)Snow, (T)Light and (P)Stork are without a doubt some of the biggest names and the toughest competition for everyone in the tournament. This is going to be good.

(Z)ZerO was the undisputed best player in 2020 but going into 2021 and the last ASL he seems to have come down to a top 4 finish in ASL11 losing to Mini in the Ro4 and then again hero in the close fought 3rd/4th place match. Coming into this group however, an opening match against stork is doing him huge favors as he has had a losing record against both Light and Snow in the weeks leading up to this group and his sponbbang winrate in both ZvP and ZvT are at a 50% each. ZerO is most likely going to win his match against stork the issue becomes who would he rather face in the winner’s match because if he doesn’t win the winner’s match he will face the other in the final match, unless stork pulls off a miracle in which case his chances of advancing drastically goes up. I think despite the 3-1 head to head that Light has over ZerO, Light is the better opponent to have in the winner’s match, its not like hes outperforming other zergs by a lot so its very likely that ZerO just needs to come up with more specific builds on his map choices.

Before I get into (P)Snow’s side of things, we should congratulate him on his wedding day, which is why this group has been postponed by a day to Monday October 4th. One can only speculate how his performance will be coming into this group after a big day like that. Its certainly not going to be an easy start for him, Light has put in a lot of work in his TvP sitting pretty at a 69.6% winrate for the matchup and a 4-3 head to head advantage over Snow, Polypoid being the opening map also isn’t doing him any favors, not a lot of ways to take advantage of the map either, though taking a loss and facing Stork is not the worst thing in the world, that 70% PvP comes in strong for him and possibly facing ZerO in the final match is definitely better than facing light again, even if its a Bo3.

(T)Light’s path is fairly straightforward, purely by the numbers he’s actually the one who is most likely to make it through the group of all 4, he has a winning record against both ZerO and Snow, has a great winrate against protoss if he ever comes up short against possibly facing ZerO in the winner’s match. Whether first or second, hes my locked pick to qualify to the Ro8.

And now we come to (P)Stork, unlike the other 3 players in the group where I put in some relevant stats, I have none for Stork, because he doesn’t play much sponmatches. Stork has pretty much become the old master hermit, the elder statesman of starcraft competition at this point, hes not the fastest or has great builds, but he is someone who makes the right decisions at the right time and makes to most out of that minute to minute gameplay adaptability, things that work great against the less experienced players, but I feel, fall flat against the ones who are mechanically leagues ahead and its not like his opponents in the group are lacking in the high level experience department either.

All in all its very hard for me to predict who will advance along with Light in this group and to be honest I even hold that to some doubt, but I have locked him in to advance and I’ll stick with it.

But if I had to pick between (Z)ZerO and (P)Snow, I’d pick (Z)ZerO, snow might have a good head to head with ZerO, but he isn’t that spectacular against zergs right now, hyuk hyuking himself in the Ro24 match didn’t do much favors either.

(T)Light and (Z)ZerO to Advance to the Ro8!

Group B Preview

Group D’s leader (T)Rush did his best to pick a group tailored from him. And he’s no stranger now to group selections. This is the second consecutive ASL he pre-qualified to the round of 16 from wild card matches. This happened with the tournament withdrawal of Flash then Larva.

His first target was (T)BarrackS. This is a perfect pick for (T)Rush since he excels in the TvT matchup. He not only won his last round of 16 group with three Terrans in it, excluding his 3-0 elimation to Flash, (T)Rush is 7-2 against Terran opponents sOrry, Light, JyJ, and Leta in the previous two ASLs. The spon matches also support his skill in the matchup with a 68% winrate over the past month. (T)Rush will have his shot at (T)BarrackS in the first best of one in the group and is a heavy favorite.

Picks two and three for this group were (Z)beast and (Z)Soulkey. (Z)Soulkey advanced past an extremely easy round of 24 group in his return to ASL competition. It is still noteworthy that (Z)Soulkey has taken several on and off breaks from the Starleague in order to focus paying down debt collectors after he was taken in a luxury car scam. This doesn’t mean that (Z)Soulkey is in worse shape than he otherwise would be. In fact, (Z)Soulkey ranks higher then (T)Rush (5th) on the Spon boards, sitting comfortably in 3rd place. Many of his victories were mined in ZvT wins and it’s clear why he was a last and very reluctant pick for group D. But he still has to get past (Z)beast. (Z)Soulkey is actually quite bad in Individual Tournament ZvZ. Dating back to Kespa days, (Z)Soulkey does not have a winning ZvZ percentage in both MSLs and OSLs. While (Z)beast may be ranked 37th overall and competed in 0 spon match ZvZs last month, his single victory over action a few weeks ago is enough to prove he has it in him to win this bo1.

(T)Rush only finds himself in trouble if (Z)Soulkey makes it to the winner’s match to face him. His near 70% winrate in ZvT is going to be troublesome for (T)Rush who only managed to win 48% of his games versus Zerg last month. (T)BarrackS in the winner’s match would make this matchup even less interesting as his winrate is an abysmal 38% vZ. (Z)Soulkey really has to do everything he can to avoid playing (Z)beast twice in his group. If he can win just won series versus (Z)beast, he will advance no matter what.

(T)Rush lost to hero 0-2 in ASL 11. It’s a clear issue for him. He’ll be watching closely as (T)BarrackS and (Z)beast face off in the loser’s match. (Z)beast really only played 19 spon games in the last month. He may be good for one upset, but he just hasn’t put in the work the same way a player like (T)BarrackS has. (T)BarrackS has qualified for 3 ASLs in a row and is on his way to becoming an establishment player. (Z)beast won’t be able to last against the experience of (T)BarrackS.

A best of 3 between (T)Rush and (T)BarrackS makes things way more exciting. (T)BarrackS actually eliminated (T)Rush during the round of 24 of ASL 9. That puts their series about a year and a half ago. In that time, (T)Rush has been able to make incremental improvements to his game that make him stand out. This series is one to love. It’s as if we will be watching to step-brothers who have turned against each other and will be battling over family and honor. If the group really ends with these two facing off, then as fans, we can finally see who of the two players really is the better player as they battle out the most epic and final series of the round of 16.

Predictions:
Brain: (Z)Soulkey advances first, (T)Rush second.
6th Sense: (T)Rush first, (Z)beast second (with (Z)Soulkey losing to (Z)beast twice).



Writers: BisuDagger, BLinD-RawR
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Jubinell
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Last Edited: 2021-10-03 16:34:15
October 03 2021 16:31 GMT
#2
Did Stork drop out? His name shows TBD in the calendar.
I'll be hugely amused if Stork cruises through this group with average APM at 210
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50585 Posts
October 03 2021 16:37 GMT
#3
I wouldn't be surprised, hes playing this tournament like its his last.
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TornadoSteve
Profile Joined March 2018
1092 Posts
October 03 2021 17:20 GMT
#4
I am confident snow should advance in 1st.
Then, its a flip between light and zero.
I hope im wrong though, would love to see Stork in the ro8!
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-03 19:41:32
October 03 2021 19:41 GMT
#5
I heard that Stork doesn't play spons as he is practicing off-stream a lot so I wonder, perhaps, the legend of the fall helping out here too they might advance w/ snow.

He was pretty OK in Ro24.
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angry_maia
Profile Joined August 2020
327 Posts
October 04 2021 03:52 GMT
#6
On October 04 2021 02:20 TornadoSteve wrote:
I am confident snow should advance in 1st.
Then, its a flip between light and zero.
I hope im wrong though, would love to see Stork in the ro8!


Wow what makes you so confident in snow? I'd love to see snow win a season of ASL.
HOLYBATS
Profile Joined August 2021
Turkey745 Posts
October 04 2021 07:31 GMT
#7
I wish Stork plays strong and remembered hist last run.I also think Snow will advance.
masoka82
Profile Joined June 2020
Spain594 Posts
October 04 2021 07:31 GMT
#8
Stork Fightning!!
itsdaniel
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Austria334 Posts
October 04 2021 07:46 GMT
#9
he needs to do good today!
OFFICIAL #1 STORK FAN // Stork:"This past week, there's a foreign fan named Daniel who got caught on the camera a few times. He came from Vienna in Austria to come and see me, and he wanted to be mentioned in one of my interviews."
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