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jinjin5000
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1552 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-03-29 20:12:13
March 29 2021 20:04 GMT
#1


little NaDa stories:
+ Show Spoiler +
Reason why JD said this may not apply to NaDa was because NaDa was famous for playing other games and drinking right before tournament finals and just playing teamgames for fun on Battlenet instead of practicing. Julyzerg was asked for practice before finals and July went in expecting 60-70 games practice session but NaDa told him "thank you" after 4 games and logged off.

After 2006 golden mouse, NaDa said on interview "I gave it my all to achieve this, thank you" but FlaSh revealed later on stream that "NaDa just played Sudden Attack all day and used a build he saw once on finals and still won"
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8967 Posts
March 29 2021 20:32 GMT
#2
Many many thanks !
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
March 29 2021 21:12 GMT
#3
NaDa <3
hatred outlives the hateful
LegendaryDreams
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Canada1350 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-03-29 22:47:20
March 29 2021 22:44 GMT
#4
Great interview, the quote that "practice will never betray you and will always come back for you in the future" is very endearing. I think BW is one of my most appreciated games of all time simply because of the amount of dedication that players from all walks of life put in as outlined by Jaedong here. In the end, we do it for the love and passion for the game. Loved the little excerpt about NaDa.

Thank you jinjin5000 for the translations.
call me moxie
bovienchien
Profile Joined March 2014
Vietnam1152 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-03-30 00:01:57
March 30 2021 00:00 GMT
#5
I saw Nada who tested how to micro Valkyrie about 1 minute in the hunter map before he played games to qualify for ASL. But he lost his game in the bluestorm map.

I don't know if these rules apply to Arto at all.
https://www.facebook.com/StarcraftRemasteredVN/
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
March 30 2021 02:10 GMT
#6
Genius.
Terran.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51650 Posts
March 30 2021 04:08 GMT
#7
lol the mbc thailand trip

[image loading]
Commentator
ox.tQ
Profile Joined November 2010
800 Posts
March 30 2021 04:20 GMT
#8
Excellence is not a virtue, but a habit - Aristotle

Thanks for the translated video.

Melona ice cream anyone?
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Timebon3s
Profile Joined May 2018
Norway772 Posts
March 30 2021 06:48 GMT
#9
He seems like such a nice guy.

No wonder they have wrist issues though, that practice regime can’t be healthy in the long run.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8967 Posts
March 30 2021 06:50 GMT
#10
For fans of Jaedong, here is an old interview with him:

Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
iFU.pauline
Profile Joined September 2009
France1730 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-03-30 08:01:23
March 30 2021 07:34 GMT
#11
Grinding Starcraft is way harder than studying of course and it is a bless to have been dealing with that kind of challenge during teenagehood as there is nothing that is "too difficult" now, just finished a master's degree and starting a PhD and I sometimes am baffled how far I can go with study not investing 20% of what I did in Starcraft. Keeping in mind that it is nowhere near close of those progamers and their insane daily practice. The dedication and strenght those guys built is a lifetime asset, "if I want good result, I know how to do it". That is a game changer and not many people can say that. Jaedong killing machine!
No coward soul is mine, No trembler in the world's storm-troubled sphere, I see Heaven's glories shine, And Faith shines equal arming me from Fear
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-03-30 11:49:40
March 30 2021 11:41 GMT
#12
Offtopic: who fucked up JD's liqupiedia page? Where are his post KeSPA achievements, like 2nd place of KSL, 4th place ASL etc.? It looked normal but someone thought he's genius. That's not cool. C'mon guys, if you can't conribute pls don't touch the history (+ some photos are getting removed for no reason, so many players like Light or Snow doesn't even have profile image anymore, like WTF is this...).
(Wiki)Jaedong
sunbeams are never made like me...
masoka82
Profile Joined June 2020
Spain599 Posts
March 30 2021 12:05 GMT
#13
On March 30 2021 20:41 outscar wrote:
Offtopic: who fucked up JD's liqupiedia page? Where are his post KeSPA achievements, like 2nd place of KSL, 4th place ASL etc.? It looked normal but someone thought he's genius. That's not cool. C'mon guys, if you can't conribute pls don't touch the history (+ some photos are getting removed for no reason, so many players like Light or Snow doesn't even have profile image anymore, like WTF is this...).
https://liquipedia.net/starcraft/Jaedong


I completely agree, I even think a thread should be created. History should not be erased
Timebon3s
Profile Joined May 2018
Norway772 Posts
March 30 2021 12:49 GMT
#14
On March 30 2021 13:08 GTR wrote:
lol the mbc thailand trip

[image loading]

Since they don't speak English, does Koreans learn other languages that they can use to communicate in other countries?
How would they communicate in Thailand?
Highgamer
Profile Joined October 2015
1470 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-03-30 19:18:13
March 30 2021 17:00 GMT
#15
Damn, young Bisu has quite a resemblance to friggin Bruce Lee here. (I admit I'm a little "blind" for asian facial differences though. Mb it's mostly that haircut)

<3 Jaedong
<3 jinjin5000
Brainojack
Profile Joined March 2018
Canada195 Posts
March 31 2021 16:39 GMT
#16
On March 30 2021 13:20 ox.tQ wrote:
Excellence is not a virtue, but a habit - Aristotle

Thanks for the translated video.

Melona ice cream anyone?


I don't know what that ice cream flavour is but you know what the say:
"if it's good enough for JD, it's good enough for me."
I gotta try it
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10346 Posts
March 31 2021 19:13 GMT
#17
On March 30 2021 07:44 LegendaryDreams wrote:
Great interview, the quote that "practice will never betray you and will always come back for you in the future" is very endearing. I think BW is one of my most appreciated games of all time simply because of the amount of dedication that players from all walks of life put in as outlined by Jaedong here. In the end, we do it for the love and passion for the game. Loved the little excerpt about NaDa.

Thank you jinjin5000 for the translations.

Came here to talk about that quote too. So good.

"To practice isn't for you to get better now in the present. Practice will never betray you and will always come back for you in the future." -- Jaedong
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10346 Posts
March 31 2021 19:17 GMT
#18
On March 30 2021 21:05 masoka82 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2021 20:41 outscar wrote:
Offtopic: who fucked up JD's liqupiedia page? Where are his post KeSPA achievements, like 2nd place of KSL, 4th place ASL etc.? It looked normal but someone thought he's genius. That's not cool. C'mon guys, if you can't conribute pls don't touch the history (+ some photos are getting removed for no reason, so many players like Light or Snow doesn't even have profile image anymore, like WTF is this...).
https://liquipedia.net/starcraft/Jaedong


I completely agree, I even think a thread should be created. History should not be erased

I'm not sure what you're both talking about to be honest. I looked through the edit history, which I /believe/ you should be able to as well, and you will clearly see:

1. The most recent major removals in the Accomplishments happened in 2017 and were made by Spazer, who is very reputable.

2. The images that were removed were removed because of copyright infringement.

Furthermore:

3. If you have so much to contribute, why don't you contribute?...
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27207 Posts
March 31 2021 19:29 GMT
#19
There’s something to be said for dedication for sure but that seems overkill in terms of a practice regime and you’re hitting diminishing returns or even burnout and regression in that environment.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Nematocyst
Profile Joined October 2017
United States164 Posts
April 01 2021 04:19 GMT
#20
4 hrs of proper practice is much more valuable than 12 hrs of practice for the sake of practice. Also, playing game after game isn't really practice. You practice to perfect specific things, and starcraft branches rapidly after your drone split such that game playing can't really exercise anything specific. There are tools for those things, and that's significantly more worthwhile than playing game after game. I'm sure that's what he meant by hard, though he didn't specify. It's a lot harder to do nothing but worker drills for 4 hours than playing games for 4 hours. It's also way more effective at getting a drone drill right when it matters.
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